This can't continue... | Karmelo Anthony, Henry Nowak, and Belfast

Something feels different lately: the same news cycle, the same platforms, but a heavier sense of pressure, anger, and exhaustion. We start with a last-minute scramble when Rob can’t make it, and Mike Pantile jumps in on short notice, then we get right into what’s behind the growing fatigue. From immigration anxiety to online outrage addiction, we talk about why so many people feel like the temperature is rising and nobody can agree on what’s real anymore.

We dig into the Carmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf case as a brutal example of how one event can produce two completely different moral stories depending on what your feed serves you. We react to viral clips, talk through the gap between courtroom reality and social media narratives, and ask what happens when algorithms reward the most divisive voices. The bigger issue isn’t just politics, it’s a crisis of trust, a crisis of community, and a culture trained to treat rage as a lifestyle.

From there we zoom out to Belfast unrest and the temptation toward decentralized “solutions” when institutions won’t act. We wrestle with the Catholic and Christian perspective on borders, responsibility, and the weaponization of empathy, plus what it looks like to build real resilience without giving in to despair. We land on a practical question many families are asking: do we retreat from the city and rebuild local life, or is that giving up?

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Transcript

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SPEAKER_05 0:53

I haven't played that intro in a very long time. That is OG, man. Rob texts me 10 minutes ago and he says, I can't make the show. And I'm like, wait, what? And he's like, dude, I can't make it. I'm having car trouble. And he needs the car to go away. And I'm like, who can who can make it in 10 minutes? And I'm like, Pantile's the only one that'll come through. You were the first person I asked. I didn't ask anybody else. You were the first one to come through. You answered in minutes and answered the call like Superman, bro. Thank you so much, dude. How have you been?

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Dude, I've been really good, man. We got to give a shout out and a thank you to my wife, Karen, for holding it down. This time of day or evening is chaos with the kids. She's like, no, go go do the thing with Anthony. I'm like, babe, you're the best. I was gonna you know do it anyways, but it's good to have her not be pissed off while I'm down here doing this with you. What time is it are you? It's uh a little past five. We try to get the kids in bed by like 7:38, but it's like a three-hour, four-hour window time.

SPEAKER_07 2:01

Yeah, oh, you're in mountain time, so that's right.

SPEAKER_05 2:04

Um wow, man. What's going on? What's going on with Pantile, man? What's I I I what are you allowed to like say on air any of the things you've been like dealing with? Like, to are you are you leaving Canada? Like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_04 2:17

Dude, that's that's to be determined. We're right now in the middle of trying to figure out how to move out to the country. We've had three or four different places kind of fall through, and we're kind of just just certaining that out. I don't know, man. I've often thought about moving down south, it's not super easy, but it's kind of where God has me. But um, honestly, man, it's just been tying up with the kids, putting out my YouTube thing, coaching my guys, you know. I just put out a course too, and so I'm just kind of staying in my own little corner of the internet, dude. I'm off X, I kind of go in and out. I'm just dude, I don't know how you do it, dude. It's such a cesspool. After I need to just like detox myself from it sometimes, you know, and then I'll come in and I'll like post for like a couple months straight and then I'm off.

SPEAKER_05 2:57

We have such different, like um, we have just such drastically different lives, right? Like, you're home with your family the whole day.

Family Life And Social Media Detox

SPEAKER_05 3:05

Like, I'm I'm out doing construction in New York City. So most of the time I'm just playing around on Twitter while I'm at work. Like when I'm home though, I I never go on if I'm home. Like, if I if my wife and kids are around, I'm not I'm not on it. On weekends, I disappear from it. And I even like lately I haven't been on it nearly as much as I used to be. I used to spend a lot of time in the cesspool, but um, yeah, it's we just we just yeah, we're just very different like that, I guess. But um, man, what's been going on? It's been a while since we had you on, man. What have you been up to?

SPEAKER_04 3:38

Dude, man, it's just been tied up with like I said, with the family trying to find this land, trying to figure out our our living situation. Not that it's like pressing, I just dude, I'm so tired of the cities. I'm so tired of you know, this sounds bad. I'm so tired of immigrants just invading everywhere. I want to be in the middle of nowhere with nobody around me, like Rob. I'm just I'm so sick and tired of it. I just got fatigue from everybody. So I'm just like, I just need to get the F out of here. And yeah, man.

SPEAKER_05 4:02

Other than that, we all have the fatigue, Mike. That is kind of the topic of tonight's episode. We wanted to talk about the fatigue. Um what is what is the um news in in Canada like? Like, are you guys seeing the bombardment of the Carmelo Anthony Austin Metcalf thing up in Canada?

SPEAKER_04 4:22

Yeah, absolutely. It it's it's everywhere. I don't really pay attention to the the Canadian MSM, but but everywhere else, I'm just noticing absolutely everywhere. Friends are talking about it. You know, there's two sides, everybody's crashing out on either side, and it's just it's it's just more the same BS dude, as you know. That's probably like the headline topic for you guys in the US for sure.

SPEAKER_05 4:42

It it for for me, it's um I'm I'm just very worried about everything, the way everything is is going on. Oh, we do have to talk about this tonight, too. Bobby needs to definitely, definitely need to talk about this tonight. There's uh we have a little update from Carrie Prajama Grady. We should have put her in the thumbnail and let her threaten to Sumi again. But um I'm watching what happened in Belfast, and it's no different for you in Canada. Um, like when I visited Canada, it's the same situation we're dealing with here in the US, but so much of it feels like, especially with the algorithm on social media, that they're feeding us stuff to to build this animosity towards the other, right? Like you really like race relations in America have never been at a worst point, and at least online. I mean, I I work in the city and I'm around I'm I'm in like the melting pot, you know, and I don't I don't notice it in person yet, but you just see video after video after video of of cultural clashes, just have such a different vision of what a society should look like interacting with each other, and it just seems like things are really coming to a head. Like Belfast, I the you're talking about uh like the Irish who classically had like tensions with the English and and the Scottish are the all like Scottish, English, and and Irish are linking together and they're like, we've had enough. I mean, they had this Sudanese immigrant come in and try to behead a guy, and they've lit Belfast on fire, essentially. And it's it just seems like everything is at a breaking point right now. Now you you are still kind of in

Fatigue With Cities And Immigration

SPEAKER_05 6:40

the country where you are, right?

SPEAKER_04 6:42

Yeah, we're kind of on the uh outskirts of the suburbs, so I mean we're we're close enough, but you know, the tensions here are are just as high. It may be with different races, let's say, but the the problem is the same. It and it it it's hard because it I think so much of it is obviously manufactured chaos, and then the state comes in, or in our case, you know, the the federal government, parliament comes in and brings in the solution. And what it is what is it? It's just more totalitarian control, it's the totalitarian Luciferian tiptoe. I mean, we see it everywhere. It's happening on purpose, and I think it's gotten to the point where it's gotten so bad that I don't see a way out of it personally at this point.

SPEAKER_05 7:16

No, and I think with the algorithms, the way they're feeding everything to us, I I mean, people are just willing to say things they never would say. You're seeing like, I mean, I have a lot of clips we could go through tonight to just show that there's two different realities that people are seeing things through, right? And this this whole Carmelo Anthony Austin Metcalf thing happened, and we're we're looking at it, and uh you see a a kid at a track meet who gets stabbed in the heart for absolutely no reason, and we want justice for that kid who was murdered. And then the black community in America sees that, and when justice is actually served, the kid got 35 years, he's gonna get out in 17. He's 17 years old, he'll be out on the streets at 35 years old. He has a chance at a life, and they're acting like they put an innocent kid away. Like, I I just don't it doesn't seem like the case that should set these tensions off, but they really are. I mean, he's uh but then again, you're viewing everything through social media, so you don't know, like I said, I don't see anything, it's not like I see this stuff on the streets, but you're seeing video after video of people just uh violently attacking like black people are violently attacking white people for no reason whatsoever. It's just this it's it's come things are boiling and coming to a head very soon.

SPEAKER_04 8:41

Well, when you you're I mean, the the whole operation, because most people are retarded and they're plugged into the hive mind, and you know, the powers that be know that if they can manufacture enough of this chaos, something that is a legitimately open and shut case like this one, um, will still cause division and chaos. And it's playing right into the game, especially with social media. That is where like the where warfare is happening. That's kind of like ground zero nowadays. So to me, it it it it's unsurprising. It's just like what is it going to what is it leading to? Is it is it civil war? Is it just a complete total chaos upright? I think that's the only logical sort of end point at this point.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

I think that's what I think that's what is actually happening. I think that they're when I looked at what they were doing with the mass migration into the West, the the narrative was always, oh, they're doing it for votes. I never thought they were doing it for votes. I always thought it was about a disintegration of culture, and it was about bringing foreigners in that have a completely different way of life than we do, especially look. I mean, I have I have uh we have Indian listeners and stuff like that. So it's not I'm not trying to whatever give this broad stroke brush with with everybody, but when you're bringing in people who don't view like they like that you're talking about an entire country of people who they're like their sole source of income is typically scamming people, right? So now you're bringing them into America, you bring them 99% of them are coming in with fraudulent info on these visas that they're coming in with because they're scammers, like they don't view morality the same way we do. They don't see lying as a problem, they don't see stealing as a problem. Then they come in here and it's a total culture shock. Now, this year was the first year we started to notice where you're having Diwali celebrations in America, Diwali celebrations in in England on like massive scale because they've imported so many freaking Indians in one in one shot the way they have. And it's just a completely different culture. Now, even like 20 years ago when we were growing up, it wasn't like that. Like you had even in New York, yeah, you had all you had you had different cultures, but there was like different ghettos in New York City, and like the the Spanish didn't mess with the blacks, and the Italians stayed in their neighborhood, and the Irish stayed in their neighborhood, and then everything just kind of got flooded in in the last 20 years, and it just seems like everything is going to come to a head soon. Now, I think they did this on purpose to undermine whatever culture that we had that united us before. Because even 20 years ago, you think about when 9-11 happened. When 9-11 happened, Americans like rallied to the call to go and fight the Iraq war because we felt like we had been attacked. Our our cultural makeup in our countries at this point is so whacked that I don't even think if an a foreigner a foreign attack on our lands would rally young men to go and fight for their country anymore.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

No, exactly. So the two things. I mean, you import the third world, you're gonna get the third world. I think it all really is a subversion of uh a Christian society, what is the West, but you know, the bulwark of you know morality of the entire world. And so I think the front lines, the frontier is obviously the United States, it's kind of like the new Roman Empire. So naturally it's all gonna go there and then it spreads up to where we're at. And then you get this this in the last, especially in the last year or two with the JQ, what's happening in the government, the

A Murder Case Becomes A Rorschach Test

SPEAKER_04 12:10

distrust in the establishment and in Trump. I have never seen such a radical switch around from a platform in my entire life. And I was like Canadian mega to the core, bro. I remember that 2016 election, I was rallying for him for years up here, and then now it's like breakneck, dude. Everybody's got whiplash. So this veil has been lifted, nothing happens to the people on Epstein Island, all this other stuff goes down, and so there's a fundamental distrust and then disunity that's like bred, especially in the American people, where you guys could rally together on this sort of like common enemy, but now you're like, wait a second, the common enemy is in the White House, it's in the Senate.

SPEAKER_05 12:49

The the Trump stuff, the Trump stuff is amazing because like I work construction, I work with a bunch of like blue-collar guys who were all super hyped about Trump. I mean, it was like you a unanimous thing at in construct in the construction world. Guys were so pumped about what Trump was gonna do. We had this opportunity, we were gonna finally close the border, and we were gonna start deporting people and take our country back. Uh, we were talking about it at work the other day, and I was just like talking to like normal guys at work. And I'm like, I'm like, so what do you guys think of Trump? And they all like, and they're not in my world, they're not like they're not like on Twitter the way I am and stuff, and they're all just like, oh man, he's controlled by the Jews, dude. I can't believe it. Like, wild is normal guys that are just everyone is just like um unbelievably disappointed in how Trump just seems to to be a puppet for Israel. It's kind of crazy. Where the you know, I thought it was more just in our internet world, but it's not. It's it people really do notice and they are very disappointed in it. And the the total turn on support for him. He went to uh the Knicks game the other night and just got booed at the stadium. And it's like, did he really think he was gonna walk into New York City and people would be happy to see him there? Like, he's so used to going to these rallies and everybody being excited for him. It's just nobody cares about him anymore. He's just we're all just hoping his term ends and he gets the hell out of there.

SPEAKER_04 14:25

Yeah, and then on the other hand, on the state level, what was it? Wasn't it APAC bragging about stealing an election in like Kentucky? Yeah, Thomas Massey. Yeah, so it's just like it's just flagrant, it's in your face now. They don't care about you, you know. Everything it's it's just like this this small group of uh of men and women at the tippy top that are just shaking hands, making deals, making billions of dollars, and everybody downstream from that, you know, suffers as a result. And so now you've got like rotten cultural identity, you don't identify with the country, you don't have any a semblance of a patria is completely gone. And so when you rob that of people and then you import the third world and you get all this geopolitical stuff happening, I mean that's just a recipe for you know intracultural implosion. And it's uh I think it gets it's gonna get so much worse, man.

SPEAKER_05 15:11

So worse. Yeah, I do too. I do too. Like, all right, so I'm going to I want to share, we're gonna play a couple of videos. I want to just see. Um, I want to see what you think. Let's see if I could pull this off.

SPEAKER_06 15:24

I'm always terrible at this, but um hang on. When Rob's here, it goes much faster.

SPEAKER_05 15:31

All right, let's see. All right, let's see.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Um I gotta I'm like jumping screen to screen here, so what it is going to take in order for us to get under from under our oppressor's thumb. They are going to be violent anyway. So why would we continue to be peaceful martyrs to keep capitalism and white supremacy going? We cannot live like this. This is not sustainable. The American Empire is falling anyway.

SPEAKER_04 15:56

I don't think the audio is playing cat.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Oh, it's not? Are you gonna fall? Are you gonna be a part of bringing it down?

SPEAKER_04 16:02

You don't hear that? I can't even hear you anymore. Everybody else hears it. You just don't hear it. You hear me now, dude. What the hell happened? You guys all heard it, everybody heard it.

SPEAKER_05 16:25

I'll be right back. Oh no, we lost it. I'm like, I'm like, I'm sure I'm pretty sure I did this right. Uh it wasn't me. Okay, so for anybody joining late, Rob Rob uh had an emergency come up where his car broke down and uh and he had to bail last minute. So Mike Pantile came through last minute. It's not even me, Fed. It's Mike. I actually handled it properly. It's Pantile issue. Audio is fine. Well, when he comes back, we'll have to figure that out. I got some other stuff we could go over too, though. All right, let's see. Good now. Can you hear me now?

SPEAKER_04 17:04

Yeah, I switched browser, I suppose.

SPEAKER_05 17:06

Let's do that again. And let's see if um let's see if Mike can hear it this time. All right, we're good. I mean, this is just she's just living in an alternate world.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

What it is going to take in order for us to get under from under our oppressor's thumb. They are going to be violent anyway. So why would we continue to be peaceful martyrs to keep capitalism and white supremacy going? We cannot live like this. This is not sustainable. The American Empire is falling anyway. So you have to make a choice now. Are you going to fall with it, or are you going to be a part of bringing it down and building something that is actually made within the image of marginalized people, most especially black and indigenous people? I believe that black people can be responsible for themselves, govern themselves, create their own systems.

SPEAKER_05 17:52

But do you um I have so many things that I disagree with? It's not easy. It's just the level of um the level of uh just how the narrative that these people actually believe that it's it's actually shocking in some cases. Like um this one, let me see if I can pull this one off. Hang on. I got another one. This one, this one was um was actually like appalling to me because it was looking at the um at the same case we all did, and I I actually had to say like we're looking at two totally different realities that these people live in.

SPEAKER_04 18:43

Um dude, it feels like 2015 all over again. I don't know how this is still a conversation. I mean, that uh yeah, it just goes to show you the the sort of mainstream IQ, to be fair. I don't know. I have maybe have too much hope in people, and then I see stuff like this. I said, Man, I really live in a bubble, dude.

SPEAKER_05 19:00

Well, well, that's the thing. You don't know if if this really is that mainstream or but the problem is there's there's two different narratives being fed to people, right? And we're we'll watch something like I I've noticed this a lot with my ex feed lately, especially the the way the algorithms work now is they just feed you stuff to enrage you, and like I'll I'll watch this clip and it and it makes me angry. So the ex keeps feeding

Algorithms That Feed Outrage

SPEAKER_05 19:30

me stuff like this because it makes me angry. So the people that are on their point of view, they're seeing both this, which they agree with, and then they're seeing the most outlandish white opinions to make them angry, and it's just building this animosity up because they want us to be at war with one another. Like that's just that's just where we are. Uh, listening while I drive 45 minutes to the nearest auto parts store, Rob said. Thanks for thanks for uh bailing on me, Rob. Appreciate you. Um, all right, so let's play this clip. Let's just see what the like this is this woman's take on the Carmelo Anthony story.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

First and foremost, um, the one thing that I would ask for people to do at this moment is pray for the Anthony family um because they have been legally lynched for the last year. And more so by this slaughterhouse of a courthouse as well as the family of the Metcalf. So wait a minute.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

The energy Okay, just think about what she just said there. Pray for the Anthony family because they have been legally lynched and they've been tormented by the Metcalf family. The this is this is the family who lost their son who was murdered. Now, Austin Metcalf's father came out originally, and he was tried to make try he forgave Carmelo Anthony, forgave him, then he went to a uh a thing to try to pray with them. Wow and they threw him out. Okay, so this guy came in, tried to extend an olive branch as one father to like as a grieving father going to the other parents and saying, Look, our children got into something. I don't want this to be about race. Like they had an opportunity to make sure this wasn't about race, and that family went and made the entire thing about race, which made the whole situation compounded it, made it a million times worse. Then you get this girl who's supposedly a lawyer, she can't even say the word ask. Let me ask you something. Um, and and this is the stuff that they're being fed, and I mean it gets worse.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Right now, is their white supremacy? They have shown up to be the pigs that they display with hate, they are celebrating the loss of life in a loss. Of freedom. So that's the energy. We have a devastated family who didn't know that they were going to have to let their son go back into a whole-do because we have an overzealous prosecutor who lied throughout this trial, who put on liars as witnesses in order to be.

SPEAKER_05 22:26

All right, Mike, did you see any of the trial? Like, did you see not not see it because it wasn't it wasn't broadcast or anything, but did you hear any of the witness testimony? I did not. The witness testimony was so brutal that even the defense's witnesses that they brought on that they tried to make it seem like um tried to make it seem like there there could have been some angle of self-defense in this. When they were on cross exam, the the prosecutor came in and asked them a few questions and it totally unraveled their story. And then they asked the defense's witness, the prosecutor asked them, Do you think this was self-defense? And the defense's witness said, No, I don't. Do you think this was a case of murder? Yes, I do. Like the most in these are the defense's witnesses, right? The other thing you have to really take into account is that he didn't take the stand, okay? Like when you go when you look back to the Kyle Rittenhouse case, you remember Kyle Rittenhouse case? Like Kyle Rittenhouse, he Kyle Rittenhouse, he he shot three people, and he wound up to claiming self-defense, and he gets off, but he gets on the stand and has to tell his version of events, right? So now this prosecu uh this this defense attorney had to see uh Carmelo Anthony and say, we cannot put this kid on the stand. Like this kid had to be so bad at telling his version of events that the the the defense attorney was like, we cannot put him on the stand. He couldn't even get up on the stand and say, I'm so sorry about what I did, nothing. Like he he he could they couldn't put him up there because the slightest chance of cross-examining him would have been such a disaster for them. Like this kid was such a uh such a freaking animal. I mean, he stabbed the kid for no freaking reason whatsoever, right? And and they must have come to the conclusion that if we put this kid on the stand, it's going to completely torpedo our case, which you know it wound up being torpedoed anyway. But uh, I don't know, man. I just I just think the people that are watching it from the other end, without even looking into the events that actually went went down, without looking at the case whatsoever, and just seeing this from a purely racial perspective, it's just going to get to a point where it's just the she's right. This stuff isn't sustainable. This can't go on the way it is.

SPEAKER_04 24:54

Yeah, he was easy, not not only uh was he just an animal, but I think a part of that is the fact that he probably looks like I mean, you just look at him in the eyes, he's got like room temperature or lower IQ, yeah, easily for sure. The guy probably can't even formulate a sentence properly. But this is just classic like weaponization of like bipartisan politics, dude. The fact that this is getting so much coverage and it is meant to inflame people. As a I would say somewhat rational male, looking at this, I don't understand how somebody could misconstrue it. But because we've just been so the woke mind virus has spread to such a degree, and we've been so um de-Christianized by all angles, even a lot of these people on the opposing side probably call themselves Christians, but effectively are materialists. Yeah, that's all they are. There's no, I think that's really at the heart of the issue is it's just a materialistic, even if some of them call themselves Christian, it's not a Christian nation, it's a materialist, you know, post-modern nation. There's no recognition of the reality of the metaphysical, and then when you get that, there's just this overton window that shifts so quickly and snaps your neck. So that I don't know. This doesn't surprise me. It feels like 2015 all over again, but then doused doused in gasoline post-COVID, post what's happening with Trump and Israel and the JQ.

SPEAKER_05 26:15

Man, the scariest part is that, like, look, it is a good Christian impulse to have empathy, right? Like that actually is a good thing. So, like the the idea of somebody's um even even getting back to the immigration issue, right? There's there's something about somebody's down, you know, somebody's escaping something dangerous from their own country, or uh, you know, somebody somebody's just coming to America looking to make a better life for themselves because they're coming from a third world crap hole. Like the the impulse for us to be kind to that person and welcome them into our into our borders and and treat them with dignity and respect, that is a good Christian impulse. But that good Christian impulse is being weaponized against Christians so that if we notice anything like we're seeing right now, they're accusing us of being far right extremists and hate-filled and and racist and all these things. And it's such a a vile thing to accuse us of because we all have children growing up in this world, and we want to have a country to hand on to our children. And then you have even our own hierarchy in our church telling us that we need like it's just this never-ending thing of no, you just have to keep being okay with this stuff. And if you if you protest it in any way, you're the problem.

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Well, that's exactly it. And to people in the comments, I voted for Alberta secession, by the way, and separation. So my whole family did, just to buy the way. I live in Alberta, I very much support separation. But on the other, on the other side, you know, if we we've been so uh brownwashed about the history of, let's say, even the Crusades, if those men, and it was an overwhelming loss, but a net W because the West wasn't Islamized. I mean, it is happening now, but if it wasn't for that, that those men and women holding the line at that time, I mean, we would have been a full-on Sharia law, you know, Islamic state sort of thing. And so for for us to expect that history not to repeat itself, but this time, like the enemies are within the walls already. They've penetrated, they're they're here. So now what do we actually do? That's the question.

SPEAKER_05 28:26

Well, that's actually well, all right. So when we get to Belfast, we're gonna get to Belfast in a few minutes because that's kind of what I see happening in Belfast is where once the church would call that crusade, right? Like the invaders are coming into Christian lands, the church would call that crusade, the Pope would call that crusade, and we would defend Christian lands. The Pope is kind of impotent on this issue and telling us we

Trial Reality Versus Online Narratives

SPEAKER_05 28:50

need to be okay with it, and then you know, slightly pushing back and saying countries need to do better. The countries of origin where these people are coming from, they need to like oh no, can you still see me? I can oh my power just went out. Oh no, oh, did it? I think I can fix it. Well, just my just one. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_07 29:10

My my son better go turn that back on for me. Yo, man, since I got on here, it's been nothing but problems. What's what's no, it's because my son's gonna take care of it. Don't worry, I've had faith in him for the morning. Oh, there we go. Done. Praise God. Uh oh no, no, my lighting's a little messed up. Oh my god, how yellow. Holy cow.

SPEAKER_06 29:36

All right, let's see. That's the wrong one. Wait, all right, sorry, guys. Do that, and then all right, that's a little bad.

SPEAKER_05 29:45

Oh my gosh. All right, so um, yeah, so instead of the I'm surprised the whole stream didn't kill. Yeah. Um, but no, what happened was like all my lighting went out and my main screen, but my my laptop was still on battery, so luckily I was still able to hear. But um, so in Belfast, what's going on? You know what? Maybe we'll do that first. Yeah, do it. Um, it's dangerous the way it's happening. Um like what what I see happening is actually a little uh it's kind of dangerous and worrisome. So because if it was called by the church, it would be done properly. But because it's being done like this, it makes me so let me uh let me see what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 31:01

Bear with me, guys. It's happening. All right, here we go. All right, so governments about what they're gonna tell what they're gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

All right, so this is the ICA. The ICA just citizens of Ireland, we address you tonight with a heavy heart, but with a firm resolve. We are the Irish Citizen Army, also known as the ICA. We created the rebirth of the ICA of 1913. We are all citizens, fathers, mothers, sons, and daughters, driven to finally take action on the intolerable corruption which is forced on us by the Irish and British governments. We also believe that the British government has no right in Ireland, has never had any right, and never can have any right. We represent all of Ireland's 32 countries. We refuse to witness the suffering of our citizens. Our Irish citizens refuse to be treated as second-class citizens on their own island. We the ICA refuse to witness our heritage and culture being erased. We refuse to witness the suffering and killing of innocent Irish citizens. We the ICA will fight for Ireland. We the ICA will take the necessary steps to achieve our goals.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

So, I mean, dude, this is like scary stuff because when it's done is like uh to take action on the injustice of Irish citizens and to fight for a fair, free, and independent Ireland.

SPEAKER_05 32:35

Look, people are fed up, man. People are fed up, they want their freaking country back. Like they're tired of they're tired of um the government continuing to allow this stuff to happen. So now these vigilante groups are popping up and they're trying to form their own crusade, essentially, right? Because what they're but what's going on in Belfast worries me because what they're doing is torching neighbor, torching neighborhoods where I think the immigrants are, right? And in some respects, a lot of those immigrants are just innocent in that they're falling for the propaganda because I think a lot of this stuff is coordinated. I don't think these people are just coming to to Ireland for no reason, like they're just like, oh, I'm just gonna go to Ireland and invade. No, they're being told in their home country, oh, come to Ireland because we have all these programs and you're gonna get free money and all this stuff. So they're being propagandized too. Then they come there. Some a couple of the people that come are complete maniacs and degenerates, and then they're firebombing the neighborhoods where these people are, and that's not going to change anything. It's going to bring a bigger crackdown on the

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SPEAKER_05 33:45

Irish. I think the only way to actually do something, I'm speaking hypothetically here, of course, of course, but you need to make the politicians who enacted these plans, you need to make them feel the pain of what the what the regular Irish citizenry is feeling.

SPEAKER_04 34:03

And that'll never happen. You know, this kind of reminds me of uh, you know, the People's Crusade back sort of right around that first crusade time where they went in and it was totally obviously decentralized. There was no real authority. They went in, they caused a muck, and a bunch of innocent people died that didn't need to die. Um, and I'm not saying that you know Pope Leo's got to call a crusade, but and I'm always very um hesitant to speak poorly, you know, probably because I'm scrupulous, but the fact that there's really the hierarchy is kind of has has hasn't been as strong-handed with regard to morality or about you know this particular topic that the world is run amok. Like, where is our moral guardrails? And it it's like up to the lay people to talk about this stuff, and it's that's sad, man. Because I don't blame them.

SPEAKER_05 34:48

You you don't you don't you don't even have to yeah, it's not it's not it's not even about like it's just uh you look at the way they're handling this issue, they're just totally dropping the ball on because I see immigration and like the LGBT issue in the church is similar, right? Where if you if you allow if you allow uh laxity on the LGBT issue in the church, or even any sexual morality in the church, it weakens all doctrine across the whole the whole thing, right? Yep. If you open your borders in a nation, you weaken the entire nation in all areas. It's like the the church should be firm on these specific things for a reason. They need to warn Christian nations that if you do not remember your patronage, if you do not remember your inheritance, you're going to lose it. Like that should be the church's job is to warn us if you are not careful about making sure you remember the inheritance you have from your ancestors to your lands, you're going to lose your lands. Like that, it's the same thing with the church. Because we've forgotten tradition in the church, we've forgotten the inheritance that was given to us. So we think it's just a thing that we can play around with and and change around. And that's really the crisis in culture and in the church.

SPEAKER_04 36:14

Yeah, because it starts, it starts in the church, it kind of begins and ends in the church. But uh all you to see this as plain as day, go and look at the stats of how many Catholics actually go to confession on a regular basis, and then moreover, how many Catholics actually believe in the true presence? Yeah, that's shocking and it's depressing. And if there's anything that's like doom pilling for me that makes me black pill, it's that it's it's and it's exactly what I was speaking to earlier. It's a materialistic worldview. We've completely lost. Like we live within this cosmos, this reality of angels and demons and warfare and our morality. Like the enemy can, you know, scourge and crucify the flesh, but they can't steal the soul unless we give it to them. And here we are, because it's like we don't see it, smell it, touch it, hear it. It's not real. And then as a result, what happens? Everything weakens because we've forgotten about the cosmology that we lit exist within.

SPEAKER_05 37:05

Yeah, Mike, I've never been like a huge race guy to begin with, right? Like, I've never been a guy that's obsessed with race. Like, I I always like what I never was that worried about like the Mexican Catholics coming into my country, you know. It was like I assume over time they'll assimilate like the European Catholics that came into this country. I I just kind of so it it it what scares me is that you're bringing people in that aren't Christian, right? So, and and to your point, like the materialist Christian mindset that we're dealing with right now, even the people who do go to church, a lot of them treat it like it's just a social club, especially the older generation. The older generation for them, church is like, oh, well, I'm going to meet, you know, my friend over there, or you even have the Knights of Columbus has kind of just become like a an insurance agency for older men at the at the parish and stuff. But there's not really this vibrant deep spirituality amongst the the Catholics that that are in the average parish anymore. That's what it is why people do seek out traditional parishes, because you're going to a parish where you're meeting like-minded people who do take their faith seriously. So you get this, you get like this concentrated parish of people who who take it seriously. And it's it has like a growing effect when you when you do it that way.

SPEAKER_04 38:20

And then those families and those cultures bear a lot of fruit. It's not like that they're they're without their problems. I mean, like, listen, there's problems at every TLM parish, problems at mine, there's probably your problems yours because there's flawed people. Um, but you you know, you can at least connect on the fact that you know you believe in the church and its doctrine to this, you know, the most strict points. You know, for some people, it is about aesthetics and about you know the material more than it is anything. But you tend to have people that have informed consciences that that that try to fight for their state of grace because they understand and they're aware of these metaphysical realities. Um, but then you know, you know, when is the last time we've actually had robust clarity with regard to moral issues from the church? It's sad to really think about it. From the church, it's from the church, it's been quite so.

SPEAKER_05 39:04

I mean, the one of the one of the craziest things about doing that's that encyclical series with Rob has been it's kind of depressing, man. It is right, it's like you're just like, Where is the church right now, man? Like they should like really, if you if you even talk about the stuff of Vatican II and stuff, it's like really what the church should have done with Vatican II was address the sexual revolution that was happening in the culture, they should have addressed these uh these these revolutions. Um, they should have like even civil rights, like they should have addressed really important topics and handled them properly, but they were just completely castrated at that council. And look, it's a it's a combination of things. Like we at that same time, you're dealing with mass media coming into effect, right? Like we for the first time in history, every single home has a television in it, and the television is this magic box just beaming a narrative into your home, putting propaganda into your brain. Even now, people people, even even those of us who think, like, oh, I'm red pilled, or like, you know, I'm not I'm not falling for the propaganda. Every single thing we watch on social media, everything, everything is just further and further brainwashing us into this fake world that isn't real. Like, none of it is real. It's all just them manipulating our emotions and manipulating us. They're going to make it so that there is a civil war in Europe and in America and Canada too. Like they're there, that that is the purpose of all this stuff. The whole purpose of flooding our nation with all these immigrants was to destroy the culture that we had here, to destroy your you knowing your neighbor and knowing the person who lives next door to you, so that you don't have a community anymore. And now you're at each other's throats. And when crap hits the fan, like if if crap would have hit the fan in Europe, like during the Black Plague or something like that, people knew their Christian neighbors, they could go and count on their Christian neighbors to help them, and you knew you weren't in danger because your Christian neighbors were Christian. You have some kind of crazy thing happen now, you're not going to know who you can trust. You're not going to know who you can count on because you don't even know who's Christian. And you don't know what it's like to go to war, have a civil war in your country until you're fighting against non-Christians. Because you I talk to a lot of like a lot of right-wing guys think, well, we got guns and we're gonna do it. It's like you're dealing with savagery, man. Like people who don't have a conscience, people who don't think the way you do. You will still have empathy. You think you want to go and take someone's life, even in self-defense? You don't look at the like Carmelo Anthony. None of us would do something like that where you stab someone in the heart because they pushed you. Like, none of us would do something like that. You're dealing with people who have no moral compass, they think nothing of extinguishing human life.

SPEAKER_04 41:55

A nation that that deprioritizes the state of its soul eventually ends in just parallel and disaster. And that's kind of that that's that's essentially what you're seeing. And then you buy into this manufactured chaos, and then you you think about every sort of facet of society, right? So, starting with the color revolution of like the late, you know, 20th century or the early 20th century, late 19th century, etc., with feminism and everything that happened with the free love movement and then to race and everything now. Um, it it appeals fundamentally to people's hindbrain. And now you have this awareness of like mental ill and mental health and mental illness. There's been no more treatment and and an awareness and medication there is right now, but we're the most mentally sick people probably in history.

SPEAKER_05 42:38

History by far. Not even not even a question. I think we're way worse than the pagans were.

SPEAKER_04 42:44

Yeah, at least they had some semblance of of virtue, yeah, of natural virtue, right?

SPEAKER_05 42:48

Like they had natural virtue and stuff. They even though they were like praying to false gods, they still had like respect for the for the unseen world, and you know, like they they cared about honor and integrity, and you know, uh, they cared about the the their leaving their children something. Like the the stuff we're dealing with today is so much

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SPEAKER_05 43:10

worse and degraded, and even especially like the social media cloud everybody's trying to go for and stuff. It's just man, it's disgusting. Really, we're in trouble.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

We have a short memory, dude. We have a short memory. We've allowed people to rewrite history. We don't long, we don't look at history critically. Look at some of these Eastern European countries. You look at Poland, look at Serbia, look at some of these other countries that have a very long memory. They know what happened to them at the hands of Islam, they remember, and so they've they've fortified their wall. I mean, Poland is probably the most probably healthy country in the entire world because they under they've consecrated the the or not consecrated, but they've declared a crisis king of Poland. Their borders are super secure, they're a prosperous country because they have they've got that patria and that long memory. We don't have a long memory. I mean, look. Some of our ancestors imagine now we've just allowed these animals within our walls. I mean, a lot of them are not animals because they don't they're they're taught not to question their faith. Sorry, go ahead. How far back do you know your ancestry? Maybe uh three generations, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:16

Great grandparents, great-grandparents, maybe, right? Yep. Uh same here. Like, I I know my my dad's grandfather because he was alive during my lifetime. He lived to 96. So I know my dad's grandfather. They came here and uh came in, came into Ellis Island in 1912 to escape the war. Um, and that's like that's as far back as I go. So, like when I became Catholic, discovering the Saints was so exciting for me because I had this history now, like I had this ancestry that I could go back and I could discover my actual lineage goes back to the the you know the Christians in the Middle Ages and the Christians of the uh of the of the dark ages and even before that. So like learning learning Christian history for me was such an exciting thing because I see that as my heritage. Where you know, like your average person, like your average American or Canadian, they don't have they don't know anybody beyond their grandparents, and there's no there's no like you said, there's no long-term memory, they have no care to like preserve their family name to pass it on.

SPEAKER_04 45:30

There's nothing, there is no, I don't know, there's just no pride in in caring for what was handed down to us, and it's because we we don't care about the faith like we once did, because it wasn't handed down to us. I mean, that's why I'm so man, I'm so on fire for these zoomers and these young people that are coming back with this like ferocity because they're like, We have been you're black and you're Catholic. We're southern Italians, we might as well be black.

SPEAKER_05 45:53

No, well, no, because no, that first off, no, no, no. I get what he's saying. No, he's ocean, he's right. Ocean said the Italian tradition of pretending to be related to a saint. So Catholic Crusaders said, No, if you're black and Catholic, it's not about race. Like they are your they are your inheritance, also. I agree. Ocean's just mad because he's not Catholic yet. He's not come on, dude. What do you think? Watching A B not. He doesn't get to claim the saints as his ancestors. Yeah, he's gotta play these little games. He's only 16. We caught him a little flag. Um, yeah, that's pretty cool. If you if you if you know your paternal line trace back that long, that's pretty awesome. I I know I well, I know I know my great-grandfather's cousin was Lucky Luciano. Get out of here, really. That's awesome. That's fun together. If you go back to Sicily, where my my grandfather was from, the house that his family still owns is a picture of my grandfather with him. My uncle went there recently. So sick.

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Uh I feel like we've just been doom pilling for the last like 40 45 minutes. And like I think go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 47:05

Well, it's not that I'm doom pilling, it's that I am worried. I'm worried and I'm worried about I don't want to build that tension more. So, like, you know, I I know I see a lot of see a lot of other creators going out, and they're like, like, I don't like going down the white supremacy line. Like, I don't none of that stuff matters to me. I I really do worry about these tensions building because I don't like everybody gets excited when they see like Ireland fighting back. I don't think any of us really understand what civil war looks like, man. And I have I have a son who's 20. I don't want my son getting involved in this stuff. I don't want, I don't want violence. Like life is life is still pretty good for us, despite all the crap we're talking about. But I don't want it to be where if I'm going to work and I'm a white guy and black people are so brainwashed to hate white people that they attack attack me on the street just because I'm white. Like I'm worried that that's where things are are escalating to.

SPEAKER_04 48:01

Yeah, I I agree. And I'm curious your thoughts on because there's a huge swath of people, myself included, that are like, I'm getting, I'm getting out of the cities. I'm just like retreating. I'm taking care of my family and the state of our souls, because that's my main job. My children are part of my bodily goods, and I have to take care of my wife. I have authority over them. So I'm just gonna get the hell out of here, take care of them and myself, and you know, do what I reasonably can to provide and protect spiritually and materially. A lot of people think that's retreatism. I'm curious. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_05 48:31

It's the it's the I think that I think it's it's kind of the Benedict option, right? That's that that book Rod Dreer put out. But like I think I think it's the probably the safest thing to do. I think you still need community, but I don't think you're looking to move into an off-grid home where there's nobody, you know. It's just I'm not going full bug hall. Yeah, bug hall. You'll still have community, and I think as long as you have that, it's okay. Because I I think that might be the only way to survive what's coming, man. Like, I don't know any other way. Like, I think the cities are going to get so violent at a certain point, and I think it'll be in the next couple, like in the next 10 years. I mean, it's already happening in Ireland, right? I think I think Europe is going to be the testing program. Oh, yeah. Like, I I think like Europe, it's so much more catastrophic for Europe because they were Catholic and they turned their back on their God. And it's it's the same as when like if you if you really understand the the Arthurian legends, the Arthurian legends are pretty awesome, man. Like if you go back, what you're dealing with is you're in this world, it's it's early on in Christian history, and the the pagan gods are still around. So you have like this mix of magic still happening, and the and the pagan gods are losing their power, their oracles are no longer prophesying and stuff, and you see like Arthur and and they're going and searching for the holy grail because Christianity is now the altars are spreading throughout throughout Europe. And Rome falls because of this, and you have like the pagans all collapse because of this. But now that we've been Christianized, it's kind of it's not kind of like it is exactly like when Christ says when a when a when a man when a when when a house is swept clean, seven demons will return to it, right? So like we are formerly Christian Europe. Well, not we, but like Europe was a formerly Catholic continent. So for them to turn their back on their God, it's going to be catastrophic. Like it's going to be worse than it was during the pagan era, and God will have to chastise them in such a harsh way because of that. Where I don't think Canada too was Catholic, man. Canada too. More Catholic than the United States. At our origin, we are very Catholic. There was a point, I think. I man, I think it was Pope Pius XII was gonna hide out in Canada, yeah, to hide from the Nazis and stuff. Like it Canada's fall is just as devastating as Europe's fall, right? Where America was always founded on these Masonic principles, it was always a Protestant nation, it was never a Catholic nation. So it's it's I don't think the fall will be as severe as Europe's, where Europe, I mean, God has to if God doesn't chastise them soon, it's almost like God doesn't love his children. He has to.

SPEAKER_04 51:36

Yeah, I I mean I couldn't agree more. I mean, I think the chastisement is gonna be more brutal because of the the the moral culpability. I mean, meaning so if you look at early Christendom, you know, it was all of the Middle East essentially, but they were it was a complete hostile takeover. It was like an unprecedented enemy that came in and just with their brutality, force, and just sheer numbers took over. And these people fought tooth and nail and tried, they were taking over. Okay. Different when you have an awareness and it's not a violent takeover, it's this quiet takeover. And you know, we've just gotten away from being, you know, in tune and discerning, and we've just allowed these people in. I think somebody said earlier, suicidal empathy. Man, the chastisement there because we know better. It's like you and I, and then all of a sudden deciding to defect and apostasize. You don't think our punishment's gonna be worse because we know way worse, dude?

SPEAKER_05 52:24

Yeah, it's it's it's it yeah, it has to be because because they were Catholic, you know? And it's just so I think we're going to see it break down there first, and we're going to get a glimpse of what a collapsing culture really looks like. And it's scary, man. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 52:47

I mean, they have here first, and then you guys will see it because we're a cautionary tale. We're like a couple hip steps ahead in the totalitarian sort of tiptoe. If you just look at what we're doing up north, and this is the same thing, same thing's gonna happen to you guys.

SPEAKER_05 53:00

Yeah, the only thing about America is because it's so big, there will be places to go. But so is Canada. Like you'll be able to you'll be able to get away from it in rural areas in Canada because it is so vast, right? There's so much land where you can just go and and just be away from the madness. I just think cities in America are going to erupt soon. I think cities in Europe are going to erupt soon. It's just, you know, that's what they're pushing us towards. Somebody said, uh, I have to fight now so that my son doesn't have to fight later. There's ways to fight. I just don't want that, I don't want it to be violent.

SPEAKER_04 53:36

Because once that can of worms is open, like I know some dudes that are bad dudes, like high level, high, high level, highest echelons in the military, faithful Catholic dudes. That man, once you open up that can of worms, and then these guys are out doing this stuff too, because it's like now I have no choice, it's just gonna be disdruction, man. Like just because then you can't just like go back. It's like you just gotta empty it right out until it's dry. And then what do we want to get it to that point? You know, because I understand the fight, but then doesn't you God wants us to honor our state in life too? So why am I gonna go out there and fight when like the fight really here is here? I gotta take care of this first before I can go take care of the world. Like, that's this, this is the this is the fight. So, like, don't let the enemy fool you either, you know.

SPEAKER_05 54:23

Uh, why is Sub-Saharan Africa and Central and South America so behind the West in terms of functional society? Does Christianity have a role to play? Of course it does. Of course it does. Like Christianity civilizes people, right? So when and South Africa was civilized during a like during uh when the when the British Empire was there. Like it was civilized when the British Empire was there. Then they had the the they threw the British out, the British left, and it devolved into chaos. South America was Catholic and it was really beautiful, and they were building a beautiful country culture. And America went in and planted its Freemasonic ideas down there, overturned all their freaking every one of their leaders and implanted our own governments in there. We turned them into a materialistic society. It it's it really America is wicked, man. I mean, we really are wicked, we meddle in everyone's affairs. We uh it's it's not it's not good.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

Speak, I mean, speaking of which, when I was in New York for three days a month ago, I don't know how anybody lives there. There's such a thick fog over that place, dude. It's beautiful, it's insane all at the same time. It was unlike anything I've ever seen. In New York City, I was in Times Square,

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SPEAKER_04 55:45

but that's all over. And there's such a fog, a spiritual fog over that place. And I'm like, I I dude, it it it's really I'm sure it's hard to be holy in a place like that. There's just I just I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 55:58

I just it's gotten it's gotten significantly worse over the last couple of years, also. But there's all there's also these beautiful little enclaves you could find. And what's crazy is you still have a very deep Catholic history here, so you will still have the remnants of that that history, you know. For sure. You go to St. Pat's Cathedral, and you go to, you know, I mean you could visit these different Catholic places that are just so adorned in beauty from the time before when you know we still loved God enough to build beautiful things. So yeah, I went to St.

SPEAKER_04 56:34

Vincent Ferrer's and I was dude. I went to Daily Mass there every single day, and I'm sure St. Pat's is even more. I've never seen anything like that in my life. Did you did you get a lab mass with the Benedictines there? No, I we went it was the uh the Dominicans doing the low mass. The Dominicans, that's what I meant. Yeah, the low the novice ordo, and it and it was even the novus ordo is is really good there, really freaking good, dude. And there's a lot of people in there, so I mean there it is still staunchly Catholic, but it's such a juxtaposition because it's juxtaposed next to this hyper materialistic, fast, loud, hard culture, dude. It's that's that's a wild place, man.

SPEAKER_05 57:09

The yes, I always tell people to go visit St. Vincent Ferrer over St. Pat's because it's just as beautiful without the Taurus, yeah, right. Without the Taurus, and and you also will get they have that, so they have that side chapel when you're when you're looking at the altar on the right, there's a side chapel that that the Dominicans will just come in and say hello, uh, a Latin mass every once in a while, and you just kind of sit in and watch it, it's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_04 57:34

It's sick. I went to confession there, and like the priests are just super based. It was, yeah, it was it was it was an incredible place. We've got nothing like that out here, but I'm telling you, going from like New York City back to the prairies was like almost felt like my soul could breathe again. There's just like, dude, you I mean, you went to you went to Banff, it's totally different, even there, too. But if you came out this way, it's like a ghost town compared to where you're from, bro.

SPEAKER_05 57:55

Well, even even where I live, like I I commute two hours, two and a half hours to work because I don't want my family near that, you know. Like, I'm far out. And the thing is, like, Long Island is beautiful. Where like where I live is, but it's still some suburbs, it's not the country like where you live, but uh especially in the summertime, Long Island is there's a reason why it's the most expensive place in the country to live, is because everybody wants to live here, it's so beautiful here. Um, but and it's away from the riffraff, like you know, it's you're you're not near the riffraff, but if some kind of catastrophe hits the city, the problem is I gotta cross a bridge to get out of here, and that's a dangerous thing. You can't like you can't get off the island unless you cross a bridge.

SPEAKER_04 58:38

So I was shocked to when I bought a pack of American Spirit Blues, and it cost me like $37 Canadian, bro. I don't know what you guys got. New York prices are outrageous. What whatever's going on, I felt robbed. I spent like $700 on a bottle of water and a pack of cigarettes and two Canadian money's nonsense. I know that's why I'm so happy. I'm I've my entire family is supported by the United States economy. So when that conversion hits, I'm like, oh yeah, but when I go back to the United States, I'm like, man, yeah, like when we when we went to BAMF, it was like $14 for a cup of coffee.

SPEAKER_05 59:12

I'm like, what? It's kind of wild. Um, I know you got a meeting though, right? You gotta fly.

SPEAKER_04 59:20

I gotta fly. Yeah, I get I can I can stay for a few minutes here and then we'll jump.

SPEAKER_05 59:24

Um well I'm I'm gonna probably jump over to locals. I'll do a solo show over on locals, so I'll let you cut out. Mike, I can't tell you how grateful I am you bailed Rob out tonight. It was uh I I don't I still haven't like worked up the the nerve to do uh a solo YouTube show. Like I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 59:42

Dude, if anybody could do it, you could do it, dude. Are you kidding?

SPEAKER_05 59:45

Not without a plan. I would need a plan first, I think. You know, like not on the spot when I have three minutes to prepare for it or anything.

SPEAKER_04 59:51

So happy to have helped out, dude. It's always a pleasure talking to you. And your your your your audience is like the best audience on Catholic YouTube, bro.

SPEAKER_05 59:58

I appreciate that, and I'm sure they do too. They are they are uh a good group, very uh, very grateful for our audience. So, but uh I'm going to uh head over to locals now. Mike, you got anything to promote?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:10

Dude, just my usual stuff. Check me out on YouTube. It's like really a passion project of mine and Instagram. Um, you know, I do one-to-one coaching for Catholic men. I just put out a a course, it's called the Priest King Soldier for fathers and discerning um Catholic men. So check that out. It's coming out tomorrow. Otherwise, just subscribe and share the content. That's it sets my heart on fire, what I do. So, but Anthony, dude, it's always a pleasure, bro. We're gonna catch up soon again, and uh we'll have you on. I still have to interview you and Rob separately. You it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:37

Give Rob some shot some shine. I want to see Rob do a single interview with you. Yeah, all right, guys, God bless you. I'll see you, Mike. Thank you, bud. All right, buddy, thank you. All right, so I am going to kill the feed on everything except for locals. If you guys are not locals members, go over and join locals before we cut out. Um, if Rob would have had knick knacks, he would have been here tonight. Have a total knick-knack failure tonight. Go to knick knack.com.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:04

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