Avoiding Babylon
Avoiding Babylon was started during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. During these difficult and dark days, when most of us were isolated from family, friends, our parishes, and even the Sacraments themselves, this channel was started as a statement of standing against the tyrannical mandates that many of us were living under. Since those early days, this channel has morphed into an amazing community of friends…no…more than friends…Christian brothers and sisters…who have grown in joy and charity.
As we see it, our job here at Avoiding Babylon is to remind ourselves and those who enjoy the channel that being Catholic is a joyful and exciting experience. We seek true Catholic fraternity and eutrapelia with other Catholics who, like us, are doing their best to live out their vocation with the help of God’s Grace. Above all, we try to bring humor and joy to the craziness of this fallen world, for as Hillaire Belloc has famously said:
“Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine,
There’s always laughter and good red wine.
At least I’ve always found it so.
Benedicamus Domino!”
Avoiding Babylon
Carrie Prejean Boller asks, "Is Anti-Zionism Antisemitism?"
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Rob and Ant watch and discuss the controversial clips of Carrie Prejean Boller coming out of the Religious Liberty Commission regarding Zionism and antisemitism.
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Cold Open, Intros, And Scheduling
SPEAKER_02All right, so Taffy, don't get mad. The intro's totally fine. Like, Taffy gave us an intro. We're gonna do it on the way over to locals because it's like it didn't fit the show tonight, and like we just did a whole show of gossip, and this is a very gossipy intro. And I was like, I don't like it would have led us into talking about the thing because of the intro, and so so yeah, if you guys want to see the intro, we're gonna play the intro going into locals, and then that will kick off.
Competing Livestreams And Media Banter
SPEAKER_09Wait a minute, wait a minute. Is life site premiering your interview right now? Yes, right up against ours. Anthony v. Anthony.
SPEAKER_10I got I actually oh man, I I'm curious to see. Wait, hang on.
SPEAKER_01I want to just kind of see like feminism and the Jews. Let's start feminism and the Jews in America. You have the huge influx of people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I'm on with John Henry Weston right now. Uh that was my interview when I went down to Florida. Well, uh I'll tell you, man, just seeing some of the pictures for me down there, I was like, oh, it's time to get it's time to get back to Lent. Time for Lent. And I I started the gym um this week. I've been talking to Majari and Pantile. Like, I am in so much pain, dude. I'm back at the gym, my body is in agony. It's not like you're working, so well, that's what that's why I figured it's a good week to get back in because I'm so sore. But that's the other dude, it's crazy. Like, I've never seen my company shut down like this. So we we shut down the last day I like officially work was January 23rd. I was off the first week, uh, the last week of January. Then last week I got called in for three days. Well, of course, there's two people watching live site. They're you guys are all here. I got called in for three days last week.
SPEAKER_09I guess 60 plus years old, too.
Work Slowdown And Gym Pains
SPEAKER_02It was uh it was like like random kind of work. So I actually told oh man, I don't know if am I allowed to talk about this? I don't know. This might be legal reasons. I can't. We'll talk. Well, I'll tell that story about locals. What oh that's like I had him hold the day. I can't I don't want to say it because like we talk about the gambling? No, we'll get into that now. So there's probably legal reasons not to talk about that one too. Well, that what's interesting is so I've been I've been out of work for three weeks, right? And I put money on the Super Bowl, but I didn't bet the Super Bowl, we had these boxes, and Super Bowl boxes are like you you buy a box and then they put one through ten on the top, one through ten on the side, Seahawks on the side, uh Patriots on the top, and like they're random numbers. And if your if your number comes in, you get you get paid per minute, right? So now I split these boxes.
SPEAKER_09Oh, it is this one of the setters.
SPEAKER_02We'll do sede drama tonight, don't we? Yeah, but is that one of them? Uh we'll do we'll do sede drama tonight. Uh at some point. Like if you guys are tuning in for the title, I just I don't know, stick with us. I don't know. This is just people get mad at me because I call them boxes, and I heard people call them squares. So, so anyway, so I get zero zero and zero three Seahawks having three, right? Now that means every minute of the game, you get a thousand dollars for as long as the score stays those numbers. So the game starts off, and we get like six minutes of zero, zero, and then the Seahawks pick a field goal and it goes to three-zero. Now I have both of those boxes, so I have zero, zero, and three, zero right through the first quarter and three minutes into the next quarter. Now I'm splitting these boxes four ways because it's my brother-in-law, my two brothers-in-law, and my father-in-law are in order also. So it winds up being like 20,000 that we win, 23,000 because it's like a five thousand dollar bonus at the quarter and all this. So it's like 23 grand we win, split four ways after you give like a tip to the guy running the box.
SPEAKER_09Is this technically legal?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because like the guy's not making money on the box, so like it's just a pool, right? It's like if you're hosting a card game, as long as the house isn't making money, right? It's legal, right? So it's like as long as the house isn't making money is legal. So it turns so we we end up. I'm supposed to go today to go pick up the the 20 grand. I go there and the guy hands me an envelope and he goes, uh, he goes, hey, here's your envelope, and I and I leave the place and I get in my car and I count it.
SPEAKER_09Hold on. Hold on. You're walking around somewhere nearby New York City. Not near New York on Long Island. Okay, still with you thought 20 grand in cash on you without carrying a firearm. Who said I wasn't carrying a firearm?
Super Bowl Squares Explained
SPEAKER_02Who said I wasn't with someone carrying a firearm? I'm just saying. Yeah, I that's not going into a situation like that without being without without proper protection. Okay, good, good, good. I'm I'm proud of you. I get in the car and I count it and perfect time. Listen, listen to this story, guys. I'm not kidding how crazy this is. I get in the car, it's supposed to be 20,000 in there, but there's 36,000 in there. Now dude, I don't care how Catholic you are, the thought goes through your mind, okay? Like, I don't care how Catholic you are, the thought goes through your mind.
SPEAKER_09I pull out of there and I'm like that's how you end up sleeping with the fishes.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, no, this guy just this guy would have never known. This guy's got so much going on, he'd have never known the mistake he made. Like he literally never would have known the mistake he made. I drive away and I'm just thinking about it, and I'm going, no, like this isn't even like this isn't one of those things, like you can't confess this because you can't you have to make amends. Like, there's no way you can do this. It's basically like saying I'm giving up my relationship with God for 16 grand.
SPEAKER_09That's a gotta give you a 1099.
SPEAKER_02Only if you went over 10 grand, right? You know, Rob, it's a it's a it's a friendly pool that you're shipping in on. You don't need to, there's no thousands. I'm just saying I wouldn't be getting it. Why are you talking like this?
SPEAKER_09Maybe I've been a local show.
SPEAKER_02I'm just telling a story. Come on, we're talking about uh so I'm I'm I'm literally like, yeah, you like there's no it's not like this guy never would have known, he would have just been like I messed up somewhere, but there's no way you can confess that without making amends, like there's no way it's impossible. Like you're you have to make amends.
SPEAKER_09No, you don't have to, not for absolution. A priest cannot require that.
The $36K Envelope And Moral Dilemma
SPEAKER_02He can't require it, but like, dude, there's no way uh either way, you know what I mean? I know what you're saying, I like either way, like it's stealing, you know what I mean? It's dealing. So I go back in and I'm like, You got another AA you owed money to? And he's like, No, why? I go, sit down, sits down, and I pull the envelope out. I go, This is what you really were supposed to give me, and this is what you gave me. He was like, Oh, I go, you literally gave the money to the only person who would have returned it to you. Yeah, it's like go and double check all your work. It's like you, I'm not kidding, you gave it to the only person who would have returned it to you. Not another person would have done that for you. He goes, I'm gonna throw you in a free thousand dollar box at March Madness. I'm like, I haven't watched basketball once in my life. You're like, you're like, no, no, I'm like, I don't want it. Please don't make me watch that, dude. Um, I was just so like, and then I'm driving home and I'm like, you know what? It's good. I don't care. I get to sleep with a clean conscience, man. Like, that was a hard one though, because the devil really does sneak in on stuff like that. It's like, yeah, it's dirty money.
SPEAKER_09It's you wouldn't have even had to split that 16 grand.
SPEAKER_02I wouldn't have. Why? I gotta give my my the guys I split the box would get what they get. That would have been my 16. That would have been my 16. So I would have had my five plus, I would have 21 grand. But he but here's really how I looked at it like I was laid off for three weeks and didn't get a paycheck. And God literally gave me a way to like I haven't had to ask anybody, it's not like I put a fundraiser on, hey guys, I'm off of work, can you help me? I haven't had to do that at all. Because like God like drops these little things in my in my in my life that it's like, okay, you're still doing okay, you don't need to do that. Like it really is uh it really is amazing how God has taken care of me, and I'm not gonna play games with that.
SPEAKER_09He he did already fix the boat, everyone.
Returning The Money And Peace Of Conscience
SPEAKER_02I could that that could have that could have went towards the the boat fund, but yeah, the boat's already fixed. Um, I never asked you guys for money for the boat, never once. Don't you dare. I never ever did that. But yo, you know what I will you know what I was thinking about? Dude, we've never had a cold spell like this in New York in like in in 10 years. Like, I don't remember it ever being cold like this. If we didn't do that for my brother, every one of the pipes in his freaking house would have burst. I think Anthony misread the card and actually won. Nah, I went back and double-checked everything. I thought maybe I hit because I had I had I had those two boxes I split with my brothers and father-in-law, and I also had another box that if that box would have come in, I would have hit the 10 grand, but it didn't come in, and that box didn't come in. So I'm like sitting there and I'm trying to find a way to make it okay to keep them. Dude, don't believe me. I went through every scenario. Like maybe I missed something. Our fans will never let anything go. Never. It's been three years of the look. I tell you guys everything. I don't know. I don't know. I'm so stupid. I literally air out everything on this show. Yes, he should have given me, he should have thrown me, he should have thrown me a thousand for I I literally he gave it to the only part because I talked to a bunch of other people and they were like, You gave him that like why didn't you just take like why would you give that back? It's like, how do I not give it back to him? Like, I'd say like way too much. I'm sorry, guys. Somebody already criticized me for that. It's like way way too many likes. I apologize. Um, yeah, it was it was a hard one though, man. You really you I'm telling you that you start to think about like uh can I get away with this? Should I get away with this? And I I'm I I feel good about giving him his money back. I can sleep good at night. God took care of me for the time I was off, and he gave me enough money to supplement my income while I'm off. And he's blessed me with uh with many things in my life. I don't need to steal. Stealing's a big one, man. I don't like playing games of money. Like stealing is one of the one of the big ones. It's it's I don't know. It's a it's a it's one that all of us should avoid at all costs. Like, I even get like that with you know with overtime and stuff. Like you can't you can't just be you gotta be very cautious with this stuff. Uh do you repent of not doing the street interviews? You guys are going to get surprised. First off, the equipment I bought though, I'm bringing to Italy. So you guys will get interviews in Italy. I'll give you that. That money will go to something. Yeah, stealing is one of the top 10, man. Um Stealing's one of the top 10. Gotta you gotta you gotta watch those. Uh look, I'm being honest with you guys that it was tempting to walk away with 16,000. Like, that's a big number, man. And and I never would have got caught. The guy never would have known who he overpaid. Like, there was just way too many people he's dealing with, he would have never known. And I did, I gave it back to him. So, so that was one story. Um, uh, what else have we done? I'm being sued. I'm being sued being sued for an accident my son got into. You know what would have you know what really helped with that? 16 grand. 16 grand would certainly help with that. I'm being sued. So my my son, when he first got his car back in like 2023, got in an accident, totaled the car. Uh, I didn't hear anything for two years, and I thought nothing of it. The you know, the all the accident was over and everything. I get served in the mail the other day, and I'm reading through the the the summons. I said that to Rob and um the woman is suing me for a hundred grand for damages to her dog. She's suing for a hundred grand for herself, right? So, my my insurance policy, I guess my liability covers a hundred thousand per person. That's my liability coverage. So if you get in an accident with somebody, you have a hundred thousand dollars coverage per person in the vehicle. So she's trying to get a hundred grand for the dog. And Rob, Rob, what we say, you're like, it's property, right?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so this has come up uh of a few different times at different states with self-defense, like where a dog attacks someone or it looks like they're gonna attack someone, and the guy shoots it, and the family tries to sue them for you know all this money, and in the end, the the judge is like it was just property. He the guy destroys your property, he pays you back the value of the property. So here's like two grand for a new dog. Yeah, like it would have been cheaper if that dog had died in that car.
SPEAKER_02So this person's saying, Is there any kind of statute of limitations on it? Yes, they served me the summons nine days before the statute of limitations was it took her that long to find a lawyer that would do it on uh uh what was it called when they do it on on commission. I got so we I don't I don't know if we should do this on locals because the last time we talked about it, I had to do like the whole Chinese accent and everything. So my daughter, both my kids did this to me, man. My son gets his license, and a month later he totals his car. My daughter, when she gets her car, within like three months, she has less than a fender bender. She barely taps this guy's car. It like did some bumper damage on his car, and he like it's so so minor talking about you lost it on air.
SPEAKER_10My lawyer's chirping.
SPEAKER_09I wonder if uh Taffy the lawyer would also say that.
Lawsuits, Insurance, And Dog Damages
SPEAKER_02So my daughter gets this fender bender, and the Chinese guy has a fender bender with him, and um the guy on the scene, like I'm not even there. My daughter FaceTimes me, she's hysterically crying just because she's upset she got an offender bender. But I talk to the guy, as a Chinese kid, he goes to medical school along. He's everything fine, everything fine, no, no, no police, no nothing. So they leave. Well, yeah, because that no way that guy was insured. He was, but I think what happened was he was a young guy. He saw a pretty girl, my daughter had a fender bender, and he's like, Oh, don't worry about it. Then he went home to his Chinese parents. Oh, these parents were like, No, you sue, she hit you. That one, they took a hundred grand for my insurance, right? With the my insurance didn't even want to fight with them because the guy was gonna go for fake surgeries and stuff. Yeah, it was it was like these people were crazy. I think I think the insurance got on the phone with them, like, all right, we're just gonna we're just gonna pay it out. Max policy, fine. But this one that the the the girl with the dog, I think my like she never went to the doctor, she never got a surgery, nothing. So my insurance is like, we're not just gonna pay you out on this, you don't have any real injuries. Like the the girl's just trying to everybody does it, everybody does it. Yeah, the jury's gonna love the accents, they just uh people on that jury gonna be like, Oh, yeah, that pretty good, pretty good. I don't know. Listen, this is this is your Catholic podcast entertainment, guys.
SPEAKER_09I don't know what you also didn't I see a picture of uh your wife hitting your uh holy cow, yeah man.
SPEAKER_02My my wife my wife puts the the truck bumper right into the into the hitch for the boat. I'm like, do you like how how do I let you drive? I don't understand, and you can see all the other dents on the bumper from all the other things my wife has hit. Woman gonna kill her. Oh man, oh man, never a dull moment in the abody home, I'll tell you that. So, yes, this is your this is your Catholic podcast, guys. I don't know who else has shows like Rob and I, but I heard Tim Gordon did the same topic tonight. Did he talk? Did he talk about his gambling lawsuits and Asians? Is this is this how Tim Gordon's show started out tonight? Um, yeah, it's interesting because I knew tonight would be one of those shows where we like talk about personal stories and things like that because it's a slow news week. But what was interesting, uh, to me, well, should we do knickknacks before we jump into it? Yeah, we probably should talk about our sponsor. We should talk about Knickknacks and what's going on with the shop lobster guys because I want more lobster tails before Lent. What do you mean? I want lobster tails before Lent. Well, you know the website, yeah. I'm gonna, but I want to I don't want to shout it out until I know they're on board. Are they on board? Well it's Wednesdays next week.
SPEAKER_09I know, but what's stopping you from going from ordering lobster tails?
SPEAKER_02I didn't want to mention it on the show until I know they're on board. That's all I'm saying. Oh I'll I'll talk to them tomorrow. Because the thing is, um, like last last episode was a bit of like gossipy stuff about you know sour stock and Elijah. Tonight we're gonna talk about um we're gonna gossip with the Jews. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the Jews a little bit, but for Lent, I I do want to do more spiritual driven um shows for sure.
SPEAKER_09Are you gonna do Lenten readings? Yeah, I want to do um Divine Intimacy daily for Lent.
SPEAKER_02Um I I think that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, don't bail like you did at um well, Evan Evan sucked because of all the traveling we were doing and stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_02The because I I I think for for the hardcore listeners that actually watch Rob's Lenton reflections, they're always good because he doesn't just do the reading, like Rob gives a little summation of it and he gives a little personal anecdote for it and stuff. And my mother and my wife and myself, like all of us really do enjoy those. So I really do hope you stick to the Lenten readings. But besides even that, I I would like for our shows to be a little more spiritual driven. Um I'm I'm still like hammering out the details of what I'm giving up for Lent. Um, I know I'm most likely I'm definitely giving alcohol up. Um I might do bread and cheese again, man. That's such a hard one for me because like 90% of my diet was like sandwiches, and it's just it's one of those cheese and it totally transically changes everything you're eating, and then still give up meat on Wednesdays and Fridays and stuff. Like I'm still hammering out exactly what I'm going to do. I think um I think I'm gonna eat something and bring it to the show.
SPEAKER_09I think I'm gonna be uh fasting every day except Sunday, so one meal, one you know for dinner, and uh completely meatless through Lent. I have a fasting.
Family Fender Benders And Payouts
SPEAKER_02I have a priest who I would I have probably two priests who I would like to get on, and they're not priests who have been on previously. So, but I do have two priests in mind who I would like to get on during Lent. I have to figure out what I'm going to what we're going to talk about, but uh that will definitely be something we do. I yeah, I want to do more. I just because I liked when we did that during Advent. Like we did those two deep dives into scripture during Advent. I think we should try to do, I think we should try to keep our show with the liturgical flow to you know try to keep it.
SPEAKER_09Should I um I'd probably have to do it this weekend, which is isn't too bad, but um maybe I should record uh um Stations of the Cross. People can people can put on because because I've looked for that on YouTube before and I I found some good ones, but um, yeah. If you guys would like uh Stations of the Cross, you can play whenever you want throughout let me know.
SPEAKER_02A lot of people asking for Father Maudsley to come on during line. Maybe we could do that. Um yeah, I I have I have a couple of ideas. Uh one priest in particular I would like to bring on. Um just going to figure out exactly what we're going to do. Like um Bobby bought me a book. Um oh man, that two.
SPEAKER_09Oh no, we we didn't do knick knack, we we still haven't done knickknack.
SPEAKER_02That too. Bobby, Bobby came out and met all my sisters except Teresa and Jack who threw the bottle at my head, my sister's baby daddy.
SPEAKER_08Oh, really?
SPEAKER_02We'll do it all that way. Hold on, before we go any further, knick knacks. Nicknack.com. Knickknacks are the best. Um, there's they're trying to pitch a a uh a taxation on nicotine pouches in New York, and I'm really hoping Knick knacks is not or Nick knack is not affected by this because Knick knack oh man, my new favorite is grapefruit. I'm sorry. Grapefruit's good. Yep. Grapefruit is so good, man. Grapefruit, uh, lemon, uh tangerine, blood orange, and the blood orange, like all the fruitier flavors are the citrus flavors are so good.
SPEAKER_09You should not be surprised that that's coming from a man whose favorite drink is a rocket fuel, a rocket fuel, which is like a pina colada with a shot of dark bicardi on top. Yes, I do need a haircut, Margot. You're right. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02But but the thing is, I I thought because I do like like when I take like Zinn, I prefer wintergreen or I prefer like the mint. Yeah, like when I do Zin, but the Knickknacks I prefer the citrus flavors, but knick knacks are amazing and they give us a very good discount. So if you guys go to knicknack.com, use code AB25 for 25% off. Um, they've been very helpful for me because I've given up some other vices that I'm not allowed to say that it actually helps with, but it totally helps with that. If you have any uh if you have any other cravings, it totally helps them, but I'm not allowed to say that it actually helps them because it's definitely not a smoking cessation device, and also legal disclaimer.
Lent Plans, Fasting, And Spiritual Goals
SPEAKER_09Uh legal, legally, we are required to say that they do contain nicotine, which is the point of having them. They didn't have nicotine. Why the heck would we want them? But we do have to say that nicotine is also an addictive chemical, which might be why we want them, I guess. But um, it is gonna help with fasting during that.
SPEAKER_02That's true, that's true. So we can't say it's a smoking cessation device, but we can say it's the fasting aid. Can we say it's a fasting aid? Because it will definitely curtail your curtail your appetite, I would say.
SPEAKER_09I don't know until the FDA tells us we can't say the FDA may totally guess.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know. We're getting into all sorts of legal trouble for Knickknack, but knick knack.com use code AB25. Uh AB AB25 for 25% off at checkout. Okay, so um, yeah, uh all right, I got I forget. I have stories, but I have to save them to locals because some stuff especially because I have I forget there's family listening to our show now. Like there's family listening to my show, like people are sharing my show within my family. So I have to be I have to be cautious. But Bobby got Bobby got Bobby got the full display of what an Abadi function is like. I haven't even seen that thing. Oh man, it's wild. Like there's just so much tension. They wanted to play the game nouns, and and it just got really tense for a little bit. And Nick Nax helped me fast completely. But I thought I thought Bobby was gonna say Nick Knacks helped me get through my experience at the Abadi family home over the weekend to relieve some of the stress of dealing with me and my sisters. My sisters are a handful, man. The abody family. The answer is to this is yes. Should I call it the John Deloney if Ant gives me a script of what to say? I um I also have what do you think? Should we do another John Deloney episode? I'll go through and I'll find the worst of John Deloney where he likes where he tells women to get divorced, where he tells women that's the perfect title to an episode like that. The worst of John Deloney, the worst of John Deloney. Like, I will scour this stuff and I will I will go through the punishment and find the ones where he advises women to leave their husbands. I'm a senior in high school, and in my financial literacy class, we were watching John Deloney, and I checked my phone to see last night's episode, and lo and behold, John Deloney. Seniors in high school watching our show.
SPEAKER_09That's awesome. We had uh we we did an interview with the college kid this weekend. Yeah, he's doing a a project um on us for some reason.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, so that was interesting. He's 20. Then uh I met a couple of young guys after mass this week. Um, two guys, two guys came up to me after mass that they really enjoy the show. All young guys, man. It's a it really is it's it's a great feeling to have like young guys come up to you and tell you that they they enjoy the show. Ocean or watch our show. Are you a sophomore in high school ocean? I think he was on our show. He came on one of the advice shows. Did he? Uh I know he watches all the time. He he I think he watches uh he found us when we had um Wagner on. Oh, he checks our show out, yes. Yeah, he was on our show.
SPEAKER_09Uh the college kid probably cares more about his grades than the high school dropout did, most likely.
SPEAKER_02He was it was interesting because he asked guys. I'm sorry if you came in for the topic tonight, like it's just not one of those shows. Like, we will get to it, but because what man, it's Lila Rose again, and I see I see all of the um more ice coolers. Wow, I see the mistake all all of the typical guys are making, like they see this this this base chick speaking out against Israel, and I saw everybody lining up. Oh, get her on her show, get her on the show. And I'm like, boys, don't do it.
SPEAKER_09She uh she is apparently a Candace fan, so but just don't do it, just don't do it, don't do it.
SPEAKER_02I don't know why you guys don't learn, man. You know, no e-girls ever, there's no exceptions.
SPEAKER_09You know, Chris had the message crafted already, if not sent already, by the time you tweeted that. Chris, yeah, you know, you just know.
Sponsors, Knickknack Plug, And Disclaimers
SPEAKER_02I just saw I saw people starting to ask, Hey, you want to come out? She's like, sure, I'll come up for an interview. And I'm like, nope, ain't doing it. Not doing it. I will not, I will not break this rule. We have we have our exceptions. It's like Nancy Charles. We make the exception for Nancy Charles, we make the exception for Catherine Bennett. Yep, those are the two women we allow on our show. No e-girls ever, neither of them are e-girls. We won't do it, not for any of them. I don't care how base you think that I don't care if they speak out against Israel, none of it. I don't care because I'm gonna tell you this girl, yeah, she said some cool stuff there. I guarantee this chick's a kook. Well, she's former Miss California. She's a kook. Come on, you can tell. She's a nut. She's like, yeah, so Mrs. Bennett, Mrs. Catherine Bennett. She is uh wonderful, Mrs. Catherine Bennett.
SPEAKER_09The irony of the statement, Catherine Bennett gets a dispensation.
SPEAKER_02I love Catherine, man, she's awesome.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, but that was different. Hope yeah, you're Rob's wife. I mean, and yeah, my wife's been on too.
SPEAKER_02That doesn't count.
SPEAKER_09We've had Angela on, but that was during trivia, so that's different.
SPEAKER_02Angela's not an e-girl either. Like, no, definitely not. There's a very specific thing when you mean e-girl, you know what I mean? It's like these aren't e-girls. Um, and that was an interesting time, anyway. It was like we were all we were trying to figure out what we were doing, we were doing trivia, and Angela we were trying to help her get going too. Angela's, you know. I I think Angela, if you're gonna listen to a girl that's pro-life, like you're better off listening to Angela than Lila, like yeah, like no, without a doubt. Like, I I want my girls listen, my daughters to listen to Angela. I don't want my daughters listening to Lila, you know, it's a very big difference. So, um, but yeah, I guess we could play the clip. We'll play the clip. Uh, what the lady said is pretty good.
SPEAKER_09You want the one that I said start at like four minutes, that first one? Sure, I just wing it, whatever you think.
SPEAKER_02And then we'll get into the Lila Rose stuff because the Lila Rose stuff is yeah, yeah, go to the four-minute point. We don't have to watch this whole thing. Yeah, I don't yeah.
SPEAKER_09Um Okay. So for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, this was at the Commission on Religious Liberty, which was put together by Trump. Um, and it's uh on a hearing on anti-semitism and freedom of religion. And I think we're ready here.
SPEAKER_03I think that uh point for a second. Let me back up. I didn't want to step over that answer. I didn't know you were still both of you still talking.
SPEAKER_00So just to be clear, is anti-Zionism anti-Semitism?
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_00It is under IHRA.
SPEAKER_03Reba, sure. You're up there.
SPEAKER_01You're not sure.
SPEAKER_00So what is the definition?
SPEAKER_01Um undoubtedly, anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. And undoubtedly, and one does not have to support the specific policies of the government of Israel, but to not support the right of Israel to exist, which is what anti-Zionists do, while not taking that same stand to the 28 Muslim countries and 13 Christian countries in this world, is a double standard, is hypocrisy, and it's absolutely anti-Semitism.
SPEAKER_00I think it's also important that we not make Islamophobic remarks while we're here today.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, she's a little crazy about the uh the Muhammadan.
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SPEAKER_02But that's what I mean. Like everybody clamoring over this chick. This chick's nuts, dude. I'm just telling you. I mean, she's she's nuts. I mean, oh well, I'm happy she's she did this. I mean, it's all everybody's talking about today. And she does we'll we'll finish out what she's saying because she says some good stuff, but let's just be real about it. Like the the thing is, like, people think they need to justify their criticism of Israel with the Palestine. Right. I agree. You don't need to. It's like you don't need to just just make it like your only issue with Israel is because of what they're doing in in in the in Gaza. That's uh but go ahead, we'll let it play out.
SPEAKER_00I would appreciate that.
SPEAKER_01Uh I just want to say religious liberty here. God forbid, uh, was anything like that said. Um, but if you deny if the Jewish people are the only people that you deny the right to have a to have its own state, that is absolutely a double standard hypocrisy and anti-Semitism.
SPEAKER_00Well, as you know, I'm a Catholic. I'm a Catholic, and Catholics do not embrace Zionism, just so you know. So is are all Catholics anti-Semites, according to you?
SPEAKER_01As I said, anti-s anti-Zionism by denying the right of the Jews to have their own state while not saying the same for any other people's, that is a double standard hypocrisy and anti-Semites.
SPEAKER_00So just to be clear, are Catholics anti-Semites?
SPEAKER_04Carrie, excuse me. I'm going to interrupt the discussion. Our committee is focused on religious liberty taken from all people, whether it be Muslims, Jews, Christians, Sikhs, we've had all those witnesses here. This is not a commission on defining religions or calling out any theology, or this is not um the commission for that. Right.
SPEAKER_00So we're talking about a foreign nation, so I want to be clear on what the definition of anti-Semitism is. If I don't support the political state of Israel, am I an anti-Semite? Yes or no?
SPEAKER_04They already answered, asked and answered.
SPEAKER_00According to you on the record, yes. I don't support the the political state of Israel? Uh I don't personally.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like they're talking past each other in a way. Like like one, she's saying, Do I need to support the political state of Israel? And he's saying, Does Israel have a right to exist? Now, my question would be, what do you mean by a right to exist? Like, does anybody have a right to exist? Like, like what country has a right to exist? And what do you mean by right? Are you saying like a divine right to exist? Because Israel does exist.
SPEAKER_09Right. Like whether we I mean there's there's a lot, there's many nations in the world without states, right?
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SPEAKER_02I mean so so Israel does exist. So saying like I don't think they have a right to exist, I don't know with I don't know what you're even getting at. I don't think they have a divine right to exist. I don't think they have uh a right, even a human right based upon the fact that they have some some inheritance to this land based on history or scripture. No, I don't think that. I think that they do live in this land, and I think that they do probably have some kind of a right to defend themselves because they already exist, and you're not and on a natural level, you're not going to say like that. I'm sorry I keep saying black guys, but it's just a stop stop worrying about it, it's making it worse. Crutch, I'm sorry. Say it. It's just it's hard to make a distinction here because they do exist. So whether I think they I just want to make sure people don't ever say when they ask you, does Israel have a right to exist, ask them what they mean? Because Lila Rose said this today, also, where um she said, if Zionism means I think Israel has a right to exist, then I'm a Zionist, and so is the Catholic Church. If Zionist means I condone everything Israel, the Israeli government does, then no, I'm not a Zionist. I also don't condone everything America does. So this is why this stuff gets conflated and mixed up and stuff. I want to know what she means by right to exist, because she means whatever she needs to mean for her to stay in her little pocket of of evangelical Christianity.
SPEAKER_09That's what she means.
SPEAKER_02They don't have a right to the land based upon history because they were there in biblical times. Like, no, that's not why that they they do live, they do they are in that land because they forced their way in and they made deals and whatever. Like, that's how so we're in a position where you can't just throw them out now, they're there. Well, you can throw them out, but you can yeah. I mean, they threw whoever was there before they threw everyone who was there before out, so it's doable, but they do they do occupy that region, so at this point, uh you can like I I I I mean, I honestly think that if you if you want to get theological on it, I think that the state of Israel is the kingdom of Satan on earth. I mean, that's what I think it is.
SPEAKER_09I mean, as Catholics, like, we don't believe any nation that professes a false religion has the right to exist and make you know exist under that false religion, you know. I mean, like every people has a right to exist, and they they have a um I don't know if there's a real natural right to exist.
SPEAKER_02Jews have a right to exist, god, god, god, like they have a god right to exist, of course, but the their false religion does not, right?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, that like if that's gonna be this if that's gonna be a state religion, then no, that state does not have a right to exist, and then Catholics would say the exact same thing for those 28 Muslim nations, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And when they say, like, because that guy was saying, Do you think that Jews don't have a right to their own homeland? I mean, do we have a right to our own homeland? I mean, Jews would say no. That's what the irony of this whole conversation is. Because I'm I'm fine with you guys having a right to as long as you afford us the same rights. Are you gonna afford us the same rights that you are asking for yourself? And um, there were times where we had Catholic states that I think should have had a right to exist, but those were disbanded, and the American government did everything they could to upend. I mean, you're talking about the American government, forget the Israeli government, the American government.
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SPEAKER_09If you look at what happens in South America and Central America and America helped assassinate Gabriel Gers uh Gabriel Moreno in uh Ecuador, we uh the Americans helped fund um what was the name? Uh Kales against the the Gusteros.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, so some somebody had said to me, um and where was it? Uh oh, so no, they have a right to live in their ancestral homeland, they have a right to be alive. The Jews who have always lived in Israel, who never left, have a right to their own country and government, free from hatred and whatever that was.
SPEAKER_09But someone the person who wrote that has no idea that it was the Zionists who actually kicked out the um the Mizrahi Jews, the the Middle Eastern Jews who had lived there off of their land, just like they did to the the native Christians and and the Mohammedans that were there. Trust me, there's no one that hated the Zionists more than the Middle Eastern Jews who had lived there for 2,000 years. Yeah, so I mean, and there's it just shows an ignorance of history.
SPEAKER_02There's also the element that comes in of the judgment of God that comes upon the Jews when they reject Christ and they get dispersed amongst the nations. That's a very real thing that happens, and it is part of their judgment, and it's not the first time it's happened, God has done it before. So, I mean, we've talked about this plenty of times on our show, but I I just I think it's interesting when you watch these um these back and forths between this lady Carrie Pajan Bowler, whatever her name is, this who just became Catholic six months ago. I mean, she just she just became Catholic, right? So, and and the other thing is I actually agree with Lila on something else. Oh boy, which is very rare, but um uh I want to bring this up. Hang on, I don't know. I didn't put it in the uh so Lila said uh uh so to Carrie. Uh that so do you want to bring up Lila's tweet of of that carrie ratioed? Bring up Lila's tweet that Carrie ratioed.
SPEAKER_09Carrie Carrie was ratio Carrie ratioed me, and she was agreeing with me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, I mean listen, Carrie's all the rage today. Everybody's everybody thinks she's amazing, right? So I'm not saying for e-girls, Jim. I'll kill you. Shut up. That's not what I'm doing. I'm gonna make it. Do you remember what it started? I want to make a point here about because it's very it's very easy for Catholics to fall into this we're being persecuted in America thing.
SPEAKER_09Which one they're using the Catholic church as a way to denigrate that one.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one. So let's bring up Lila that that tweak by Lila. And as always, something Lila's gonna be on A B.
SPEAKER_09I I noticed that Anthony's not blocked by her by it, but I am.
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SPEAKER_02I'm not, I'm not blocked by Lila. I try not to be too inflammatory. I try to be a little subtle in my whatever. So using the Catholic faith as a way to denigrate Jewish people or any people, spread lies, slander, mock, and ridicule others is immoral and antithetical to the faith you profess. This isn't representing Christ, it's representing your own anger and self-righteousness. So now Carrie was replied to that. Um, I might be a ways down though. I don't know. Here we go. Um, and this is what I mean. Where's your outreach for the 70,000 Palestinians who have been slaughtered? And and here's the thing: I I I because we all I've I'm watching the way this conversation is getting pouched into the Gaza Palestine thing, and it's a very libertarian way of looking at this stuff. And yes, it's horrific what's happening in Gaza and the Palestinians, but this this conversation doesn't even need to go there. It doesn't, it doesn't, it can, but it doesn't need to. Um, so yeah, so Carrie says, and by the way, I never denigrated the Jewish people. That's a slanderous lie. I simply called out the fact that I don't have to embrace Zionism as my theology as a Catholic. And okay, God, you want to say something?
SPEAKER_09I was I was just gonna say, I mean, Carrie's right with that one because the way Lila bringed that tweet was honestly most likely sinful because it uh it honestly did make it.
SPEAKER_02She was insinuating that that Carrie was you know denigrating the Jews and she wasn't and being anti-Semitic when all she was saying, I don't need to support Zionism. So Lila being very cautious because she doesn't want to get into slander or libel or anything like that. Um, she responded to her, she said, This wasn't about you, Carrie. Also, I say this with love: you and Candace are not victims of religious persecution. You both and I are all very privileged and enjoy tremendous religious freedom and security in America. There are Christians dying for their faith at the hands of Islamists as we speak in Nigeria. Also, I think you should define your terms. How do you define Zionism? If it means Israel alongside Palestine has a right to exist, that is the position of the Vatican. Like it always evolves into this two-state solution stuff. But Lila is very right about I don't like when Catholics try to act like we're being persecuted. Yeah, Lila, but it's taking the I mean seven grand for that tweet. Of course, you would take the 16 grand.
SPEAKER_09No, we're in you know, in our country and in most of Europe, no, there's no red martyrdom or anything, but but the fact that a Catholic can't Can't go and make a statement like that, you know, a true statement about Catholic theology like that without everyone calling them an anti-Semitic.
SPEAKER_02But that's not persecution, in my opinion. It depends well, once again, it's not persecution, in my opinion. Look, this is all I'm saying is that we do need to understand as Catholics, not only do we have religious okay.
SPEAKER_09But the fact that they they the when they're talking about the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, that's like the Holocaust Remembrance Association, that they want to work into actual law in the country.
SPEAKER_02That's a different story.
SPEAKER_09If that's well, that's well, that's what that whole commission was about, right?
SPEAKER_02So there is a real movement forward and and even that, right? Um, I just I just want to make sure that we keep things in perspective. As Catholics, not only are we not persecuted, but we get real we get tax exemption status from the government for our churches, and we are perfect, we are allowed to practice our faith however we want. We're allowed to save it.
SPEAKER_09No, that's not true.
SPEAKER_02We weren't during COVID.
SPEAKER_09Oh, that's true.
SPEAKER_02I mean, yeah, but the church worked the church worked hand in hand with the government during that.
SPEAKER_09Yes, that's true.
SPEAKER_02But I mean, but I I think you get what I'm getting at either way, right?
SPEAKER_09We're not my faith tells me it would be completely morally okay to burn an abortion clinic to the ground. Yeah, I do that, I go to prison.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I like come on, like we're no, that's not that's still not religious persecution, though, man. Like, we're because I don't say we're actually allowed to fully freely practice our course, but but I'm just saying we're not being actively persecuted. I want to make sure people understand that because I agree with that. There could come a time when we are persecuted, and that's when your faith gets tested. And I just don't think that's where we are right now. I think right now, even even with this what this woman did, not only is she not going to suffer, I mean, she may suffer some negative repercussions for speaking out like that. She may get fired, things like that. But the fact is, she's going to also garner a ton of support, a ton of attention, a ton of people backing her, right? So there's there's um, yes, this is this is kind of my point. The the persecution we are actually dealing with is from our own hierarchy more than the state. Yeah, I agree with that. Like that's actually the current situation for Catholics, is that your own hierarchy working in tandem with the deep state in some way is is persecuting more persecuting you more than any government entity right now. Your your own bishop in Charlotte is telling you you can't be Catholic. Yeah, you know, you're the bishop in what is it, Denver coming out and ranting about Trump's racism because of a meme. Detroit, Detroit. What about the proposed laws mandating the priest? That that would be a form of persecution, but it's a proposed law, it's not in yet, right? So I just want to make sure people. I just I just want to make sure we don't jump to we're victims of something before we are, because there's going to, I just see real persecution on the horizon, and I want to make sure people aren't throwing a hissy fit before. I mean, you can you can raise awareness and say, hey, we're we're we're heading towards that.
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SPEAKER_09Yeah, I mean, if the democrats ever gain national power again, like little you know, anti-sem anti-Semitic definitions and laws are gonna be the last things we need to worry about at that point, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_02What's crazy is you you go back to uh can you find the Cardinal George quote, Rob? See if you could look it up where Cardinal George says, I expect for me to die comfortable in my bed, my my successor to oh man, I forgot the exact way he worded it. Yeah, it's a Cardinal George quote. If he only knew that Cardinal Supic would succeed him. I hope you I hope you guys see what I'm saying here, right? Like, I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to downplay um this the seriousness because what what is happening here, in my opinion, and this is kind of the opinion I've been forming over the past couple of years. I have it.
SPEAKER_09Is that I expect to die in my bed, my successor will die in prison, and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history. Was was Supic his direct uh successor?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_09I'd love it if Supic died in prison.
SPEAKER_02He just didn't he what Cardinal George never foresaw, and but it was because he was sick, and even he was sick as Francis comes in. Cardinal George was one of those bishops who were when Francis came in. Cardinal George was like, I just wish I could tell the Pope how confusing he's being to the people, and like that. That's that's what Cardinal George was saying before he died. Um, and he just he couldn't have foresaw Supic succeeding him and cooperating fully with this, though. Like he he just couldn't foresee it, but he may not be wrong in that these things still can take place, it just may be another successor of Supic that is the one who dies in prison, and it's still going to be the one after him picking up the shards and rebuilding Christendom as it has done in the past, like that really is coming. I just don't think he could have foresaw um uh what what what Supic would have been, you know. Um uh Gordon's texting me.
SPEAKER_09Does he not know we're on a show?
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SPEAKER_02What's your show on tonight? Um so um the the my my my my point is that these things still may be coming. It's just we need to keep it in perspective about persecution. We're we're not there yet, and it's going to come. It's just it's it's just not playing out exactly how we all so none of us could have could have thought that the church would be the one laying these impositions down on us and telling us we can't practice the faith we want to and things like that. Um before before you brought up Cardinal uh George, I was thinking of something also. Um You brought up Cardinal George. I know, I know, I know I know. I just kind of lost my um uh I thought there was probably something in the comments to remind me. Uh I don't know. All right, I lost my train of thought. It's okay, it happens. Um yeah, I I just um I think that oh, oh, that's where I was going. Um, I think that what we're seeing happen, especially with Lila and Carrie, you're seeing the divide where it's going to come down because I really do think there are going to be Catholics who I always blame Rob. Um, there's going to be Catholics who go along with the Sanhedrin during the during the passion of the church. And this is always, I mean, we Rob and I have been talking about this for the past year or two. I mean, this is where I see the dividing line coming down, and it goes down to two Catholics, Carrie, who's a recent convert, and then someone like Lila. Yeah, uh, we're talking about the same issue. Recent convert. So they're yeah, they're both converts, but either way, I the way I see this whole thing mapping out is kind of just you're you're going to see a ton of a ton of propaganda. You're gonna see a ton of division coming, and it's gonna come down on this issue of the older brother.
SPEAKER_09I mean, I don't I it's kind of what we've been we've been that's becoming more and more clear, more and more clear as time goes on, you know, and it's like it's gonna be like Catholics and the reformed guys against Jews and Protestants, other Protestants, I should say.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, somebody um somebody somebody said something to me today. Uh because I think these issues are connected. So is Gordon right about patriarchy issue being one of the main ones in society? Yes, he is, and somebody said, like when somebody said that we should get carry on our show, I said no, my misogyny will always outweigh my anti-Semitism, like it just will. Like, there's no way that I'm going to uh you know have start having feminism.
SPEAKER_09Who started the feminism?
SPEAKER_02I agree, but I think they're very related. But I'll always I'll always have a disdain for for a that's true.
SPEAKER_09Women are 50% of the population, whereas the Amish are two percent, two percent, right?
SPEAKER_02So it's just uh it's a tricky issue, but you know. Um yeah, uh Laura Loomer is a vicious witch. Witch. Certainly. I mean, look, that we could talk about this all night. I just I just I I don't like when we couch this conversation always in the Palestine Gaza thing. No, like this is a theological issue, and people really need to understand this. Goes way deeper than that. Yes, that is actually what the the state of Israel is doing currently, but that's not really our issue with this whole thing. Our issue with how Israel is handling things has to do with the enmity between them and Christians, and it it's going to get more and more pronounced as we go forward. You're going to say, I mean, it's it's just it's just happening more and more, and you're going to see these arguments come up between Catholics. I mean, it is kind of strange how it's always Catholics having these things in public, right? It always seems like it's Catholics having these things. The you you don't hear, Candace, Carrie, Jack Basobic. It's uh I mean, it's just all the people having these conversations seem to be Catholic. It is really bizarre.
SPEAKER_09Joel Webbin will be Catholic eventually.
SPEAKER_02I hope so. Uh he he's a bit of a stubborn guy. I don't know. Yeah, he's a he's a bit of a stubborn guy. I mean, I do think um, I mean, I enjoy my conversation with him, but I do think he's a bit stubborn. He he's still you gotta you gotta think these guys have created a business on being reformed or whatever, right? Right? So to for a guy like that who's got this, it's a that's a difficult switch to make to now all of a sudden start saying I'm Catholic.
SPEAKER_09So true.
SPEAKER_02Um Joe Who. I think he means Joel. Joel, do you mean Joel? Um, yeah, it's uh like I do, I do, I do enjoy Joel. I think that uh he's talking about a lot of important things, which is why I had him on. Um and Fed, our resident Protestant viewer, reform props are some of the most arrogant people there is. What's kind of funny about Fed is that um he is now arguing Catholic apologetics to Protestants.
SPEAKER_09I see that on Twitter, and I want to make kind of a not a not a not a snide comment, not but kind of a little snarky comment. I'm like, nah, just let it be.
SPEAKER_02So Fed Fed is now defending the Catholic position, um, which is pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_09Um now to be fair, he does do it seemingly only when it is a position that is held by at least some Protestants, you know what I mean? Like they would have done to me.
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SPEAKER_02He said to me, he went out to um he went out to lunch with a Catholic priest the other day. Whoa, he goes, he goes, Do you have any questions? I should ask him. I said you should ask him if you could um uh bypass the OCIA process and have him just bring you immediately into the church so you don't have to sit through that one-year-long program.
SPEAKER_09Ask him if there's any way you can get the cradle indulgence discount.
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SPEAKER_09Ocean email me at uh Robert at avoidingbabylon.com. Let me know what email you sign up to look at.
SPEAKER_02Well, I always give people Rob at avoiding Babylon. That's why you're not getting the emails.
SPEAKER_09It's Robert or team. Team at avoidingbabylon.com or Robert at avoidingbabylon.com. But sign up for locals. It you can sign up for free. Tell me what email you use, and I'll give you a I'll give you a free sub. We did a pam acker. You're right. You're right. But she is not an eager. She's not an e-girl. Come on, man. She's a scientist, she's the opposite of the eager. Oh, I just got a uh I got a text from uh one of the uh gentlemen we were in Pennsylvania with, and he just ordered knickknack. He said, Hope you're all hope you all are happy, you drug peddlers.
SPEAKER_02Todd.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was Todd.
SPEAKER_02I was not gonna name names, but it was Todd. Todd, Todd. We love Todd. Todd's awesome. All right, we're going over to the other side. I think we should hook up if you're in high school and you you're living at home with your parents. I think we could make an exception. I say we hook up ocean.
SPEAKER_09If you're a priest or seminarian, not a bishop, if you're a bishop, you pay double. Um, if you're a high schooler or if you're a Protestant thinking of converting, possibly. How about that? Not you, Fed. You've already paid up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, stop that. Yeah, stop giving only three local subs out. That's it. That's enough. How many of your family members have I given free local sub to? Margo says I'm a high school seminarian.
SPEAKER_09Margo, we know your husband's a lawyer. You're not getting a free sub.
SPEAKER_02Oh man. No, because if you already pay for it, you can afford it. Somebody said giving it away. Wait, what'd she say? Giving it away is not how you end up with people you can't. That's true. That's a good thing. Giving it away is how you end up with people you can't trust. Yeah, no more.
SPEAKER_09Uh, it is Robert at avoidingbabylon.com. If that doesn't work for some reason, team at avoidingbabylon.com.
SPEAKER_02All right. Everybody else, stop being cheap and just chip in five bucks. I promise you this show especially will be worth it. Just come on, come over to the other side. Oh, you guys, you guys are rats over there, actually. Uh, we're gonna get into we'll talk about one of you local subs ratted me out. Can't trust any of you. Molly's right. No more free, you know what? No more free locals. That's how we get rats in there. All right, we're going over to the other side. Play the outro, Rob.
SPEAKER_07Today the map we'll show a sex scandal among conservative influencers perfectly illustrates why many young men are reluctant to get married.
SPEAKER_06Wow, this is my chance. Two six days later. No, as Christians, we don't do cancel culture, we do cover culture. He says, never forget that it is a sin for you to uncover the nakedness of your brother. You are expected to cover your brother's nakedness and to not put him to shame publicly. When you could cover his nakedness, you could deal with the situation privately, and you you respect the honor and the dignity and the good name of your because we're all entitled to our good name. He said, You have to cover the nakedness of your brother, of your sister.
SPEAKER_08Right?
SPEAKER_10Why are you like this?
SPEAKER_05Wow, this is my chance. Five minutes later.