Daniel O'Connor Exposes the AI & UFO Alien Deception

Daniel O'Connor joins us to discuss the deception around aliens, UFO & UAP phenomena, AI, the day of disclosure, and how Catholics should discern the "signs and wonders" of our time within their faith. This conversation emphasizes the importance of a fervent approach to Christianity, highlighting why lukewarm Catholicism is no longer an option for the church. We explore these topics through a spiritual and theological lens, offering guidance for today's challenges.

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open, Chaos, And Long Intro
• 3:20 Guest Setup And Sponsor Banter
• 7:55 Ads, Humor, And Housekeeping
• 12:27 Pivot: AI As Tool Or Temptation
• 18:20 Spotting AI Writing And Classroom Cheating
• 23:15 Why AI And “Disclosure” Are The Same Lie
• 28:42 Angels, Demons, And The Great Chain Of Being
• 34:36 Vatican Signals, Obama, And New “Religions”
• 40:05 End-Times Framing And Church Silence
• 46:40 Non‑Human Intelligences As Demonic
• 52:30 Media Platforms, Gatekeeping, And Pushback
• 58:25 Evolution, SETI, And The Alien Narrative
• 1:05:10 Rare Earth And The Anti‑Genesis Project
• 1:11:40 Spielberg’s Role In Conditioning Minds
• 1:18:05 Drugs, Psychedelics, And Discernment
• 1:23:44 Abductions, Manifestations, And Healing
• 1:30:02 Spiritual Warfare After COVID

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:00

I didn't want to go to the end. What did I just watch? Daniel is respected in the community. How could you put that?

SPEAKER_01: 0:13

That's okay. You know, as an expert in AI, I can assure you that no, that was all real. There was no AI in.

SPEAKER_03: 0:20

I can I okay, so I never see the intro before Showtime. Taffy sends these to Rob, and Rob gives approval, just which I can't believe you approved that last three seconds, Rob.

SPEAKER_02: 0:32

Well, here's the thing. I watched until the Anthony Stein bit and laughed so hard and didn't watch until the end, so I didn't know I was gonna be in it.

SPEAKER_01: 0:39

Where's my role?

SPEAKER_03: 0:40

You know, so well, here's the thing. I don't think Daniel's gonna be out.

SPEAKER_01: 0:50

Are we still alive or did YouTube shut us down yet?

SPEAKER_03: 0:53

That's what I'm wondering. So far, still alive. Like, I'll be more I'll be more amazed if Rob isn't fired into that video.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00

I'll be honest, Daffy. The well, the well part was maybe a little pushing it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07

I would say that was a bit much. Um, okay, it's avoiding Babylon, and you really never know what you're going to get on this channel, apparently. Um Daniel O'Connor.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18

I don't understand all the sim. I don't actually know what all the symbolism means, but I guess I I'm probably not in the uh conversation as much. I guess it was highly symbolic, but I the gate at the end took me longer than it should have, honestly.

SPEAKER_03: 1:30

But that first off, Taffy, it was a very long intro. Like, we have to keep the intro. I know it's funny and comedic, and everybody watches it five times, is just perfect. So um, but Daniel O'Connor, I apologize if anything in that intro offended you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45

Um, it was humorous, that's for sure. Okay, I'm gonna watch it a few more times. You know, it's gonna be my new uh soundtrack.

SPEAKER_03: 1:54

My my wife goes, Should I watch the show tonight? I'm like, uh, I I yeah, you'll probably find it interesting. Oh my gosh, I don't even have so much explaining to do at the end of the show. What does this mean? Ant, what does that mean? Okay, um, all right. So, well, Daniel O'Connor, who uh has become a very good friend of the show at this point. Like, we we really do love Daniel, and it's very hard to get you on the show because you're such a busy man.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18

I've been telling Anthony for months and months and months I'm coming on, and then I get I'm it's I'm just a complete wreck, you know. I'm always thinking I'm about to get back into it, and then like a wall falls down or something, and and like 800 other things. But finally, thank you for inviting me.

SPEAKER_03: 2:33

You're like us, like you have a you have a real job, like you're not like an influencer.

SPEAKER_01: 2:37

So I mean, I just I am not an influencer, and I have no desire to be an influencer. Yeah, I just yeah, I teach, I have a job in the secular world, so that's that's what I do.

SPEAKER_03: 2:47

Yeah, same same with same with Rob and I. And what I and I was actually off today because um I I do I do uh utility work for like Con Edison, we do paving for them, and they didn't want us paving today because there was snow on long uh in the city over the weekend, and they were worried that you know there would be issues. So the so I was home today, and what I realized is the days when I'm not working, it's kind of tricky for me to get into the rhythm of a show at 8 p.m. at night. So it's like thank God for my day job because I think it actually makes me better at this, strangely, oddly enough. But um, so okay, before before we get into anything, we do have some housekeeping to do. Um, we have two sponsors that sponsor our show. Which one do you want to do first, Rob? Let's do Requisant first, they're the oldest. So Recucent Cellars is the OG of sponsors for Avoiding Babylon. They have been supporting us for a very long time. We love Recucent. Recucent is owned by a Catholic family out in Washington. They have sat through intros like that for months and have not canceled their sponsorship. Um, but if you go to Reckus, exactly. We'll see how tonight goes. But uh go to Reckusellers.com and use code based at checkout for 10% off. February's coming, and I'm going to uh basically pressure them to get us 20% off for Valentine's Day because I think Valentine's Day is a wonderful time to get a discount on your on your wine as a gift for Valentine's Day. So uh February's coming up. I will get on that for you guys. But in the meantime, you get 10% off if you use code based at checkout. Reckusensellers.com. They also sell fruit, they are a wonderful, wonderful family. And I think it's important that we support Catholic entrepreneurs and look out for each other. There's not there's not many other companies doing what, and especially the people who sponsor our show. Like, we have some very unique sponsors. We don't get your typical uh real estate for life or you know, uh feed.e for email or whatever, even though I'll give them free plugs just by saying that. But we should we should get uh one of those codes from from them because we do mention them pretty often, even without it. But recusandsellers.com, use code based at checkout. They are an amazing place to shop for wine. Uh and then what's our second sponsor, Rob? I think you guys are gonna enjoy this. This is not a typical ad read we're about to get into, right? Right. Here we go. That was that's Taffy. You should be paid. Taffy should be paid for that.

SPEAKER_02: 6:01

That's actually I do have some bad news for Taffy. That was awesome, but Taffy uh they told me they're actually changing all their branding here this week. So that was a one and done buddy.

SPEAKER_03: 6:14

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SPEAKER_01: 7:22

Just tell them to forward that forward that one to me as well.

SPEAKER_03: 7:24

So yeah. Okay, all right. Now to the show. So it is interesting that we use like Taffy uses so much AI to get into to introduce our show.

SPEAKER_01: 7:34

It's one good use of AI is funny memes. I'll admit that much.

SPEAKER_03: 7:38

Well, what's what's kind of interesting is AI is a tool, right? And it's not because the way they present AI is as if there's this general intelligence and they and they want us to believe that there is actually going to be I mean, do should we start with like the Yuval Harari clip or something, Rob? Because the things that that they're saying about AI, like it's it's it's worrisome in one aspect, but uh because I want to get your take on something I've been I've been thinking about a lot lately, Daniel, which is AI is right now, it's basically just a uh a language model predictor. And the chat bots, anyways, yeah. The chat like the chat GPT and things like that. It's just a language model predictor. And you you could see Rob has pointed this out that like eventually that will kind of eat itself because the language prediction will come from other language prediction models, and eventually it's just when everything on the internet's AI generated and it's using all that to it's a negative feedback loop.

SPEAKER_01: 8:43

And I think we're already starting to see the results of that. I think it's hallucinating even more now than it used to. I mean, it really can't prove that, but it's constantly, constantly wrong.

SPEAKER_02: 8:52

It it also is getting more and more uh like in some sense, uh when it first came out, it's very easy to tell what was AI and what wasn't in terms of writing. Then it got better, but now it's seen it, it has in every model has developed a single style between them all. When you read something, you in within two sentences, you know it was AI. You might not be able to point to it, but it just it has this style that is very unique.

SPEAKER_03: 9:20

What's interesting is Daniel's pretty good at picking that up, and I've seen a couple of things Daniel's pointed out lately. One is Mike Lewis's article that and it was like Daniel pulled Daniel basically ran it through an AI predictor, and he was like, This thing is saying like 99.9% certainty that Mike Lewis's article was AI, and also Michael Matt's tweet, Rob, was an AI written tweet, I think. So um, Daniel, what what it what made you even run those two through that predictor?

SPEAKER_01: 9:53

I you know, I don't read where Peter is. I can't remember how I even got on the website, but somehow Mike Lewis's hit piece on Father Rippiger just was on my screen. I obviously I clicked on it for some reason. And as soon as my eyes were on it, I thought I was reading an essay from one of my undergraduates who I get every like every semester, every class. I've got at least a couple who think they're gonna get past my rules and they're gonna use AI and they're not gonna get caught. And I always they don't realize how obvious it is. I've read thousands of pages of student papers by now just since Chat GPT came out. And it it's like I can tell the difference between Chat GPT and a 20-year-old who's never read any philosophy other than what we've already gone over in my class. And they're so it's the style, as Rob was saying, you can just smell it. And and right away I could just smell this, and I can I could tell this, you know. I'm not saying Mike Lewis just went in and said, write me a whole essay and that was it. I'm saying ChatGPT clearly this was spit out by it. Is I I'm not making that accusation because I don't want to get into all sorts of details. I'm just saying that's what it smelled like.

SPEAKER_04: 10:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 10:55

So I decided to run it through Pangrim Labs, which by the way, pfft has been great. Uh Pangrim Labs, there's all sorts of AI detectors out there, and everybody says, oh, they're not they're not accurate. Yeah, a lot of some of them aren't. But I found Pangrim Labs to be really good so far, at least. Anything could change any day. But um I uh and you can um you can run stuff through it without paying like in a certain level. And uh I did I did get the page here, but the the negative, the the sorry, the false positive rate on it is like almost nothing. It's and that's I'm not saying it's definitive proof, but what I did, and I this this cost you know, this cost money, but I decided I want to see with my own eyes that this is accurate. So I took hundreds of pages of my own stuff, and uh I I don't want I'm not trying to toot my horn here. It's like there's nothing special about me just because I don't use AI to write. Most people don't. Um, but the reason I ran my own stuff through it is just because I'm the only one from you know subjectively that I can absolutely say with absolute certainty this is not AI. So to prove, to you know, to use as a case study, I ran hundreds of pages of my books through it. Every single solitary case it detected it as fully human written. So if if Pangrim Labs says that something's 100% certainty AI, yeah, that's not an ontological 100% certainty, but it's pretty, it's pretty damning.

SPEAKER_03: 12:21

What what's that been like as a teacher? Yeah, you're a you're a you're a teacher and you're now in the age where kids are just kind of running prompts through these language models. Like you're so you're you you have a very good like um detector already. How do the how do the students handle you approaching them and saying, come on, like what are you doing here?

SPEAKER_01: 12:44

It's it's been everything. Some students right that they'll say right away, I I apologize, I don't know what I was thinking, and I'm always lenient with them. Um but then some students get defensive and they start accusing me, and I don't back down. Like I I I have taken this. I had one student recently who who was fighting against this. My my tell my saying, yeah, this is clearly AI stuff. And he took it all the way to the very top of the tree. He took it all, he I there had to be this review from high up in the college. Wow. And and I and I'm not I didn't withdraw my my claim. I'm not gonna do that because I knew, I know I can smell AI. And uh at the end of all this big long drawn-out process, the college said, Yes, the professor's right, this this is AI. And uh you failed the class. So you gotta you gotta be bold with this. You can't tolerate AI slot, people putting it out there saying it's theirs. We gotta have zero tolerance for this.

SPEAKER_03: 13:41

Yeah, well, it's it's interesting because you have been on this. You were on this so early on, man. You were like one of the first people I was listening to. Like, I my my first introduction to you was you talking about these two main topics that we're gonna discuss tonight. One is uh this idea that there's going to be some some grand disclosure by the government and we're gonna find out that aliens exist, and also the one on AI. Um, and like you've been my go-to guy when when discussing this stuff, and you were on top of it so early on. Like, what were the first things that you caught that made you go, all right, I have to write I have to write a book on this because this is this is a major issue?

SPEAKER_01: 14:24

One of the first, so there were a couple things that got me really saying, not just this is bad, but like this is something I need to crusade against. One of them, and now I can't remember when exactly this was, but Obama came out and he said, Alien disclosure is gonna create new religions. And that just right away set off every alarm bell in my conscience that you can imagine. Obama's saying that this is gonna this is gonna generate new religions. And he's not saying that as a warning. He's like, you know, it's just a matter of fact. It's like, oh, this is cool. And that's so diabolical, obviously. There's never gonna be a new religion. Uh we've got the true religion. There's never gonna be a new public revelation onto the end of time. But then also that Vatican Nativity scene with the aliens in it, that's what realized that's what really what year was that, 2020 or 2021? Um now I can't remember exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 15:18

That's what and Francis coming out and saying we would baptize them, right?

SPEAKER_01: 15:23

2020. 2020, okay. So that really got me thinking, all right, this is not only a deception that's infiltrating the world, this is a deception that's infiltrating the church. And that's when I really get angry. Because the world is always falling for BS. But when the church falls for it, when people in the Catholic Church are falling for it, when you can find it all the way up the hierarchy, that's when uh that's when I get furious and and um realize that this needs to be truly crusaded against. So that's when I got writing publicly against it. Um and then and then I I started writing so much that I realized I had to write a book about it, and that was 2023, and I've just been kind of crusading against it ever since.

SPEAKER_03: 16:03

What what's what's amazing is that um because we all um have like people we have that we go to for certain topics, and um I like I this weekend I was asked to speak at a conference. We'll talk we'll talk about the conference on locals tonight. I don't I don't want to do it here, but um there are like there are certain people I go to that I know I can trust on certain topics, but what I've noticed is it's almost never the hierarchy talking about these super important topics that one like something that you're talking about, uh some of the stuff Rob and I have been talking about, even some of the stuff uh that's that's in in the conversation with young people right now. It's almost like the hierarchy is in this days where they're still talking about Vatican II and Synodality, and it's like the the world is like shaking at its core right now. A lot of us are basically anticipating the coming of the Antichrist any day now, and the and the and the church seems to just want to discuss Vatican II, synodality, and some of the most absurd things. And it's just it it's scary at times when when all we want to do is hear from our fathers about what we should be worried about right now, and and and they're just completely oblivious to it.

SPEAKER_01: 17:20

Yeah, fiddling, fiddling while Rome burns, you know, uh rearranging the deck chairs and the Titanic as it goes down. Choose your choose your metaphor, but it's exactly what we see. Uh the world, you know, in 1903, Pope St. Pius X said that the world, and this was an encyclical, this was um I supreme, he said that uh the world had become more engrossed in apostasy from God than ever before in the whole history of the world. Has have things gotten better since 1903? I mean, would anybody in his right mind say yes? So when we try to look at the present crisis through a purely temporal lens, that's crazy. This is this is not something we can solve with committees or focusing more on Vatican II or something. We've got to get uh existentially serious about this.

SPEAKER_03: 18:13

Um, somebody's saying your audio's off. I it sounds fine to me and Rob. Um is anybody else getting that? To me, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01: 18:20

All right, let me switch my mic here real quick and see if that helps. Um all right, I just switched my mic. Uh it's well, it's the same.

SPEAKER_03: 18:28

I mean, you've you sounded fine beforehand.

SPEAKER_01: 18:32

I sounded better before.

SPEAKER_03: 18:33

Uh no, everybody said no, no, no. Everybody's saying audio is fine. Don't all right, so we just have we have one guy just completing.

SPEAKER_02: 18:38

I think I think every once in a while the the camera stutters, so the audio can be a little off from the camera, but oh well.

SPEAKER_03: 18:45

Yeah, everybody's saying sounds fine, sounds fine. Okay, yeah, we got a ton of people saying sounds fine.

SPEAKER_01: 18:49

Okay, um tell this let me if I should switch back to my other mic and I'll do that.

SPEAKER_03: 18:52

But for now, no, I I mean to me and Rob, you sound fine. So um okay, so all right. Well, what I wanted to ask about AI before we get to aliens, yes, guys. They're asking if we're gonna get to it. We will, absolutely. Um, with with the AI thing, um, I'm part of my concern is that we are creating a body for something that already exists, right? Like we I think the last time you were on, we talked about how like the church has always had a category for non-human intelligences. And it's as if modern men, because they're in such a materialist mindset, they have no category for this, which then lends to them talking about alien because I think aliens and AI are so deeply connected. That like the two things are very, very, very tightly woven together. And part of me worries that what they're doing is creating a body for a spirit to inhabit. And I and I do think that is a danger, right? Because what you what what idol worship was in the ancient world is they would build some kind of an image, and then a spirit would actually imbue that image. Or I don't know if I'm using The right word there, but yeah, like a spirit would would attach itself to that image. And I'm I'm a little worried that with the AI stuff, yes, it could just be some ridiculous language model that consumes itself, but the other worry is that we're creating a system for some spirit to come into and then start feeding us something really from the depths of hell.

SPEAKER_01: 20:22

It's exactly what we're doing, and we're doing it in the exact same way that the ancient pagans did. We just think that we're above the influence now because we have science, and it's but it's it's identical. And on the surface level, AI and aliens have nothing to do with each other. But at on a deeper level, they're the exact same deception, just two different channels of it, the NHI deception. You cannot insert new categories into the great chain of being. Why? Because the great chain of being is divine revelation and its sacred tradition, both of which, of course, are infallible. Uh the sensus fidelium is infallible, the sense of the faithful, which has always been unanimous on the great chain of being, from inanimate manner to plants to animals, to humans, to angels, to God. That's reality. That's everything there is. You can't just insert a new category in there because some knucklehead says disclosure or says AGI. No. Um, we there when we're dealing with a non-human intelligence, the cat the Christian faith is absolutely clear, the Catholic faith is absolutely clear. A non-human intelligence is either an angel or a demon. That's it. There's no other possibilities there. So when we do create, that's exactly what we're doing, Anthony, is when we create, when we buy into this deception that there could be uh aliens or AI, we're creating a void, we're creating a vacuum for uh deception to enter into, just as the ancient pagans did. They worship their idols, and their idols didn't just sit there uh and do nothing. In fact, they actually did move and they did speak. Why? Not technologically, just like AI will never actually be rational, but because it was demonic. And Augustine, in fact, I happen to have the quote right in front of me. He said that these were gods made by men, that is to say, demons, through some art of I know not what description, bound by chains of their own lusts to images. And Augustine says this happened all across the world before Christianity, that the idols that they worshipped actually would speak and would come alive. And that's people think, oh, we would never fall into that again, would we? We already are. We're treating an inanimate, dumb hunk of matter, a large language module. We're treating it as if it's a person. And it's not just, you know, yes, I'm concerned about the mark of the beast and the image of the beast. I do think that's coming, but you don't need to just have future prognostications here. Just look at what's already happening. Look at the chatbots, look at the AI companions. People are already have entering into relationship with AI.

SPEAKER_02: 22:54

I think it's it's interesting that you have an event like um like the Tower of Babel so wrapped up in in language and human languages and the breaking of human languages into multiple. Now we have these language, you know, these large language models that are gathering all of human language and and works together in some sort of weird unification of it.

SPEAKER_01: 23:15

Almost also apocalyptic, yeah. It's it's it's symmetric to Genesis in multiple ways. The you know, I obviously my main thesis here is it's the first and last deception, but also it's the new Babel. They thought uh, you know, Babel, they thought they could build the tower to reach the heavens, and it focuses on language, and that's exactly what they're doing with AI. They think they can build this tower to reach the heavens, namely to access all knowledge that people, serious people, serious scientists, actually think AI is going to unlock the secrets of the universe for us, when in fact it can't even do what a seven-year-old kid can do.

SPEAKER_03: 23:52

Well, what's super interesting is uh to people today, because we we believe that there's one God. And I think I think a lot of modern readers of scripture and a lot of uh people who live in the modern world are so um they live in such a materialist world and they have such a uh a view of scripture that is affect uh that is kind of like influenced by the sola scriptura Protestant way of reading it, that we almost think that the that the demons in the ancient world just weren't real, right? Right. And that they that they weren't real, that there was only one God, and and these statues and idols that they worshiped, they weren't real, but in a very real sense, they were, right? They these were demons and they had oracles that would prophesy, and people would offer sacrifice to these idols, and they would get re they would get something from them. It's uh and I think modern man has no category for this in their brain. They don't get that these demons were real, and and and that what we're doing now is bringing those demons back.

SPEAKER_01: 25:04

Yeah, and we spent so much time thinking all we have to do is refute atheism, and yes, we do need to refute atheism, but we didn't think about what will happen when we convince people there is more, there is the anomalous, there is the amazing, but we don't warn them against the demonic. They still think there's no demons, so they they just chase headlong after anything anomalous, and that's the key word now. Uh that you know, there's we've got all these Catholics promoting UFO deception as if it's a great thing, because they just love anything anomalous, because they think anything anomalous is just automatically good. No, when it's anomalous, that means you have to enter into discernment mode to see if it's angelic or demonic. And nobody's doing that in you uh in in the whole UFO AI stuff. They're just gobbling it up, they are just so giddily accepting it with without the faintest clue that the demonic is being invited in. It's it's like a it's like a high-tech Ouija board, really.

SPEAKER_03: 25:59

Now you you pay attention to like the this world way more than I do, but I know there uh like uh on Sean Ryan's show, that woman went on. Um, I can't remember her name. Um Basilka? Yes. Now she wrote a book talking about how um basically that these these things, the the the phenomena of alien abduction is stuff that you could actually trace back. And the best place you could go is if you read the accounts of the saints and that she but her position is that like these were alien encounters back in the Middle Ages, they weren't demonic encounters. Like, what what do you make of her even being platformed on these big shows like Sean Ryan and things like that?

SPEAKER_01: 26:41

And Joe Rogan, she was on Joe Rogan, the biggest podcast in the world. So she has become the de facto Catholic representative of UFology, which I think the danger of that, you can't even you can't exaggerate it because this, what she's promoting is a is the platform of the Antichrist, plain and simple. She's promoting this idea that we can re-evaluate, rewrite all of biblical history, all of salvation history. Basically, her thesis is oh, you know, back in those unscientific times, we called all of this demonic or angelic. But now that we have quantum physics, and now that we can put physics on it, now that we have now that we're more scientific, we understand that it's really the non the interdimensional non-human intelligence. And what that does is that makes you inject a false category into a gray chain of being, as we were talking about a minute ago. A gray category, no pun intended, the you know, the grays being the gray aliens, yeah. But the the the thing is, gray areas only exist with the natural. When when, you know, um I I got sin and goodness in me. Hopefully I've got some goodness in me. I know I got sin in there. But with with the with the non-human intelligences, there's no gray. It's 100% good or 100% bad. There's no, it's black and white. There's the discernment is just is it one or the other? Is it demonic or is it angelic? So you open yourself up to being deceived when you are even when you even begin the dialogue. And that's why the fall happened, because Eve began a dialogue. She never should have even dialogued with the non-human intelligence. Because none of us are up to that. No one is ready to dialogue with the devil.

SPEAKER_03: 28:24

Even even when you see all of these, um, all of all in like uh when they have in Congress, they'll they'll ask these basically CIA plants, right? These guys are all they're all central intelligence agency guys, and they go in when they give their testimony, they never actually say things like we found alien life from another planet. They never say anything like that. They always describe them as non-human intelligences, and and they're very careful in how they describe them. They they'll say, uh, we found biotic matter, like weird words that I had never heard before. But then you go and watch the testimony of this guy before Congress, and he just starts saying these strange phrases that clearly mean these things are not from another planet at all, whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01: 29:13

They're just I don't I don't I don't even I don't know what to even make the non- Yeah, they're trying to make non-human intelligence become the new word for space alien because um, all right, how am I gonna make it biologics? That's the biologics. Yeah, the thing is that the non-human intelligence is becoming the new word because they real, you know, the devil, even even um even amid the times of the Antichrist, the devil will always be chained. He will always have limits on his on his power. He he'll never be able to work a true miracle, he'll never be able to truly become incarnate. So even amid the the peak of the Great Deception itself, aliens will not, so-called aliens will not be walking around in bodily form having dinner with us or anything like that. The devil's not capable of that. So we're being groomed to accept this more as the interdimensional non-human intelligence idea. And I think that that language shift is because it's so soon now. They're trying to shift the pendulum away from fiction and into Congress. And they are they want us to be open to communications from the non-human intelligences. Uh, the Antichrist, I who knows exactly? I certainly don't, but I think he'll be presented as either an extraterrestrial or as an emissary of the extraterrestrials, but of course he'll just be a man also. Oh, really? Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_03: 30:28

Oh, you you think that much? You think it's that it's that deep.

SPEAKER_01: 30:31

That's I think he'll I think he'll at least claim to be either himself of extraterrestrial origin or an emissary of the extraterrestrials. And why? Because he will as much as possible ape the things of Christ. That's why he's the antichrist. He imitates Christ as much as possible, but in a in a completely inverted way. Jesus really was not from earth, he really was from God the Father. What's the secular, uh, atheistic, pseudo-religious way of doing that? The the E T deception and the AI aspect of it being the image of the beast.

SPEAKER_03: 31:06

There's there's so many places we have to go in this interview. I'm telling you, I've heard a lot out of that. Okay, so so we have to get to like Jimmy Aiken talking about aliens. We have to get to Matt Frad not not uh canceling his interview with you. But before we get to any of that, like stick around, guys. Like we're just putting this interview in a lot of places. Um, so we have we have also this documentary that comes out, The Age of Disclosure. We also have the Steven Spielberg movie coming out, right? So, so Daniel and I were talking in the green room a little bit and um talking about how um man, uh because I I this is how we even wrap this one together. So the the the the conversation uh that we're going to do on the other side is going to be a lot about um uh uh Christian Zionism. We're gonna talk about kind of the Daily Wire and their new framing of things, but there's also this element where all these documentaries are being put forward, and even the Steven Spielberg movie, it almost seems like they are presenting this stuff because it's a preparation for this messianic figure that's going to come, right?

SPEAKER_01: 32:17

We have been prepared to place our messianic hope in the non-human intelligences for decades now. And when you think about the Jews, why did the Jews reject Jesus? Well, a number of reasons, but I think I actually brought this up the last time I was on a void in Babylon that one of the chief reasons the Pharisees gave is they said, When the Christ comes, sorry, they said to Jesus, We know where you are from, because you know he was the son of Mary. But they said, When the Christ comes, no one will know where he came from. But none of the authentic prophecies of the Old Testament said that. This was a deception of the Jews at that time, that this idea that he'll have to just pop out of nowhere from from uh you know the the extra some extraterrestrial source. And I my theory is that a contingent of Jews has been waiting for what, 4,000 years now because they have this false idea, and of course this is all prophesied, of what to expect from the Messiah. And I think they're waiting for an extraterrestrial messiah, which is exactly what the biggest some of the biggest names in UFO are doing now. We've got um Avi Loeb is one of the biggest UFO promoters in the world right now. He's a celebrity Harvard astrophysicist. He was the guy who thought the recent comet was an alien. Yeah. Okay. He went major.

SPEAKER_03: 33:43

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01: 33:46

Now, I don't know if he's said anything about that since so I did a comic that just went by and passed. It's just a comment, yeah. So it's like obvious he's always trying to. There was some other comment several years before that that he was saying was an alien, and he's always saying he found aliens. But um all none of the failures seem to decrease his fame. Why? Well, he's a Harvard celebrity astrophysicist, he's he's top of the UFO uh arena. Um, but he says very explicitly that the Messiah is coming on a UFO, and he's a Jew. He's an ethnic, he's probably an atheist like most Jews today, but he's an ethnic Jew who knows his religion enough to know that Judaism is still awaiting the Messiah. And of course, many prophecies speak of them wrongly regarding the Antichrist as the Messiah, but that's exactly what the Antichrist will want to do. Went over the whole world, yes, but I think starting with the Jews who are still awaiting it. So Avi Loeb, he um he came out. Let me see if I have it on my screen. This is just this month.

SPEAKER_03: 34:50

Let me let me just can can can Daniel share anything, Rob?

SPEAKER_01: 34:53

You know, I could put, I don't know if this will work, but I could try putting it on my screen if I'm the uh if I'm is that showing up? Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_02: 35:03

Let me make you bigger here.

SPEAKER_01: 35:05

Okay. Okay, there you go. Shoot, I'm gonna I'm starting to go down a rabbit hole right now. I shouldn't have to do it. Do it. Take us on a journey before let's go. This is what everyone wants. Take it away. I don't think we have to talk the better. All right, so here we go. Um one thing, let me uh real quick back to my face for a sec. So one thing that went viral recently was this Bank of England thing. Oh, we have that story. We're gonna talk about that. That'll actually tie us right into this, into what I was talking about.

SPEAKER_03: 35:33

So all right, do you want to bring that up first?

SPEAKER_01: 35:34

And and and run well, let him talk. Let me hold on. Now I lost now. I lost my screen. I can't see you guys. Oh, okay. So I found this again.

SPEAKER_03: 35:42

This is a classic avoiding babble.

SPEAKER_01: 35:44

I I got I gotta plug my other screen back in, and I'm dealing with a number of technical issues here. You guys might be able to see there's a cinder block behind me. I had to rip down my wall here because the pipe bursts because it was cold, and it's yeah, it looks better than my studio. You're good. Um, so this thing, this news story went viral recently about this Bank of England analyst who said we gotta prepare financially for UFO disclosure. But that analyst herself, I I didn't see anything really said about her, but I know her. She's a, I mean, I don't know her personally, but she's a big shot UFologist. She spoke at a number of UFO conferences, even the chief UFO conference, the Sol Conference. And um she's been writing about this, promoting this deception for years. And here's her first article. This was back in 2022. This is the Bank of England analyst who said we gotta prepare for financially for UFO disclosure. Here's where she broke into the um the fray here. As far as I know, at least. This is this is the earliest article of hers that I'm aware of. Helen McGraw. Is that legible?

unknown: 36:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 36:52

If I that's that's big enough, okay. So she starts with her, she starts her UFO article with a quote from Carl Sagan, who was one of the earlier in the modern era, that is, earlier uh ET deception promoters. He didn't believe in physical UFOs, but he was a big promoter of the more general ET deception. He thought we were going to be saved by uh radio contact from aliens. But he talks, so she starts this article, quoting Carl Sagan, about how how arrogant, how it's a neglective evidence and a shameful resistance to knowledge, to believe that the universe was made for us.

unknown: 37:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 37:30

And I'll pause there for a moment because that's so central to this lie that there's aliens, this deception that aliens exist, that we need to remake the whole great chain of being because of this thesis. It's a rejection of uh the essence of creation, which is that God, infinitely birthed and perfect and blessed in himself and a plan of sheer goodness, he created the universe. Why? Because of this foreseen plan that he knew he'd become incarnate, he knew all of this beforehand. The whole plan of the universe is 100% about human beings. God made man specifically. Jesus Christ is the one who sums up all things in heaven and on earth and under the earth. So the Antichrist, with this one lie of aliens, he knows he's much smarter than any of us. He realizes he can dismantle the whole the whole construct. I don't mean that in negative, but he he can dismantle the whole of sacred tradition, honestly, with this one lie. And the ET promoters themselves, the UFO promoters themselves, they realize this. The more the the more serious of them, the big shots, they realize full well that promoting belief in aliens, especially aliens here, the UFO deception, uh, it undermines the whole Christian cosmology. It really does.

SPEAKER_03: 38:46

Do you do you before you jump in any further? Um, do you do you see a connection? Because this is one of the things that like really affected me was the people who push evolution. It's almost like the the the same people who are Catholic, like these are Catholics who want to convince me that evolution is totally acceptable to uh believe as a Catholic, are they seem to be the same people who are like, well, aliens are possible. Like, because I I don't I I see those things as very connected, and that if you think life evolved on Earth, you must also think life evolved other places in the universe. And I think evolution was one of those things that they needed to convince us of in order for us to like let that first domino fall, and now you see the dominoes falling on other planets, and that like I don't see a separation between those topics.

SPEAKER_01: 39:42

Absolutely. Oh man, you just made me write down like four things now that I need to make sure I when I'm jotton down notes because I gotta make sure I don't forget something.

SPEAKER_03: 39:51

I love how you just got me going.

SPEAKER_01: 39:53

You guys better settle down for a few hours. You better get all right. But okay, so there's a uh evangelical by the name of Gary Bates. He actually wrote a whole book on belief in aliens and the connection to you to uh evolution. And now I can't remember what it's called, but if you know if you look up Gary Bates, it'll come right.

SPEAKER_02: 40:09

Gary Bates, you said I'll look that up.

SPEAKER_01: 40:11

I think it's Alien Intrusion, come to think of it. And I just the subtitle has evolution right in it. And he's absolutely right about that. This belief in aliens is very tied to belief in evolution. And um Stanley Jockey was a, I quote him all the time. If you've seen my videos before, I'm sure you're probably bored to hear me say this because I've quoted it before, but he was this legendary uh Catholic priest, physicist, monk theologian, professor. I mean, he was amazing. Um, but he said that this idea of aliens, that the he so he was uh a world-renowned scientist, this guy. So he traveled in all these circles that Catholic priest theologians don't usually travel in. So he was invited to the head of SETI, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

SPEAKER_02: 40:56

That book you were right, it's the alien intrusion, UFOs, and the evolution can be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01: 41:00

Oh, that's exactly that's literally what it's called. Okay, so yeah. So get so the evangelicals are absolutely right about that. The problem is only Catholicism is gonna save you from this because the evangelicals fall into a different deception, which hopefully I'll remember to get to because I've got on my piece of paper here. But um what was I just saying? Oh, yeah, so SETI and Father Jockey. So SETI is a search for extraterrestrial intelligence, and it's a it's an official government-backed search for aliens. Crazy that we have this, but it's been very heavily funded since at least the 60s. It was started by Dr. Frank Drake, and he came up with a famous Drake equation, which supposedly proves that there's all sorts of aliens in the galaxies. Typical pseudoscientific BS masquerading is actual science. But um, he said that his search for extraterrestrial the whole search for extraterrestrial intelligence was motivated by a search for immortality. Oh wow, think of scripture that fear of what what has enslaved humanity throughout all history? Fear of death.

SPEAKER_03: 42:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 42:01

And what did the what did the serpent promise in the garden? You believe you won't die. Surely you won't die. Yeah. Immortality is the chief deception of the Antichrist. We will not die. And so, no death and godlike knowledge are the two chief promises of the serpent in the garden. And those are the two chief promises that we get now through the NHI deception in both its UFO E T varieties and its AI variety. So Frank Drake, he starts the search for extraterrestrial intelligence explicitly. He's very explicit about this. He says, We are searching for uh the Encyclopedia Galactica that will give us the key for that the aliens will give us the key to immortality with it. And um, so Dr. uh sorry, Father Jockey, he goes around in these SETI circles and he reports back that the they are desperate to find proof of aliens because that they think will prove that humanity also is just a random product of evolution. So they think that if only they can show that life, uh, that intelligent life especially exists in multiple places in the universe, that it's going to be a refutation of this uh of the truth, namely that of course God made us. So very, yeah, very, very connected deceptions here. And the chief, um, the chief scientific way that we can rule out aliens is the rare earth hypothesis, which is more just the rare earth truth, that the mere uh impossible mathematical scientific impossibility of what we have here on Earth, it doesn't matter if there's a trillion times as many planets as they say there are, there's still a mathematically zero percent chance of even a life, even an intelligent life-amenable planet existing anywhere else, much less life actually so-called evolving, which I mean the like just the moon, which is 186,000 miles away.

SPEAKER_02: 43:54

If it was a few hundred miles closer, leaving the moon and the planning itself is a different subject, but if it was a few hundred miles closer or further, the tides would be such where life would be impossible on Earth.

SPEAKER_01: 44:08

Father Jockey has like a whole book on that about the moon itself. Maybe he doesn't have a whole book, but uh he wrote a lot about it. That that just the moon is so impossibly perfect that it alone refutes any notion that we weren't specifically designed here.

SPEAKER_03: 44:24

What's really interesting about what you're saying is that uh I Rob, it might have been you that pointed this out to me that all of the things you even see, like Elon talking about with uh oh, in the future with AI, we you won't need to work anymore. It's it's almost like everything you see they're doing, they're trying to reverse the curse from the Garden of Eden, right? Like the punishments the punishments of the fall are like man has to toil in the garden, and women will have to experience childbirth uh pain and childbirth, and they're like, Oh, we're gonna have these pods where we grow children, and you're like everything they're doing seems to want to undo the curse from the fall.

SPEAKER_01: 45:01

It's the anti-genesis, and that's why uh disclosure, the very word disclosure is the same word for revelation, apocalypse, and uncle and uncovering.

SPEAKER_02: 45:10

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, disclose, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 45:12

Yeah, and it's it's the antigenesis and it's the anti-revelation. Yeah, the unveiling. The um, and this is yeah, there's equally true for AI and UFO stuff. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03: 45:25

No, no, no. Just we're just I didn't I never put that together. That disclosure means unveiling, which unveiling apocalypse and apocalypse, apocalypse, right?

SPEAKER_01: 45:34

A disclosure, uh, an unveiling. So it's it's the it is the secular revelation, it's the secular substitute for divine revelation, and it purports to give everything that divine revelation gives, but without any without any of the dogmatic or moral baggage.

SPEAKER_03: 45:49

The crazy thing is like the the secular religion, because it is a secular religion, right? Like they have their end times with climate change, they have their holy days of obligation.

SPEAKER_02: 46:00

Oh no, no, climate change went away as soon as they needed data centers for AI. Right.

SPEAKER_01: 46:04

That's the thing. It's funny how this has suddenly overtaken everything.

SPEAKER_03: 46:09

But it is it is funny. Like people think, especially the atheists, that somebody's even just said before they were like, Atheists love pointing out how insignificant they are, but they need to believe that, right? It's the only thing, if you ever point out how perfect the world is for us, it it kind of refutes atheism in general. Like, I I've I I remember looking at a sunrise one time and being like, How can you look at that and not believe in God? You know, it's just so perfectly tuned for us.

SPEAKER_02: 46:41

The moon is exact size for that distance away for it to cover the sun. Are you joking me?

SPEAKER_03: 46:46

Like, but we were in like a chilly place, and I was sitting in in the sunrise, and as I felt the warmth of the sun come up, I was just like, Man, even when you're in a cold place, the warmth of that sun, like God really did tune this planet perfectly for us, you know?

SPEAKER_01: 47:02

It's like everything you gotta have the eyes of faith to see that, though. As Fulton Sheen said, you know, the science of the times, especially today, can only be understood through the eyes of faith. And of course, what you say has always been true, but an atheist would look at the exact same thing and see it in a radically different light. And of course, he's deceived. But you've got to uh what's the phrase, touch grass? Yes, you gotta touch grass sometimes, and then that'll remind you of what God has done for us.

SPEAKER_03: 47:28

I derailed you like nine times, but you wrote a bunch of notes down. So go back to your notes and make sure you cover all the points.

SPEAKER_01: 47:33

Oh, good. All right, well, no, please derail me more often, otherwise, I will never stop. Um, but what where what were we talking? What were we talking about? I don't well, I I do have a few notes of England.

SPEAKER_03: 47:45

The Bank of England, the Bank of England, the Bank of England. That's where you were going. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 47:48

Okay, so Bank of England, Gary Bates. All right, we did Gary Bates, SETI, okay, SETI, okay, SETI, Father Jockey. All right, so Father Jockey was Seti, and that'll bring us back to this. So Father Jockey, God rest his soul, he died, um, I think 2009 or something, but he warned that these I don't have the exact quote, but he said, be he said, behind these bravados about extraterrestrials, you either see the strategy of the devil or you remain blind. So he said, You've got to be blind to not see that the devil is behind this contemporary push for belief in aliens. And he said this decades before now, you know, when it's gotten a million times worse than when he was to clarify for everyone, he was talking about SETI, S O C I.

SPEAKER_02: 48:34

Search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

SPEAKER_03: 48:36

The SETA are aliens, clearly. SETI uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 48:43

Oh man, there's more I could say about what's going on with SETI right now. We're gonna play the Hararian clip, man.

SPEAKER_03: 48:47

No, no, so what yeah, what we were talking about is the connection between uh evolution and um and the belief in aliens, right? Like so, because that that one is really important to me. And then you you kind of took us down a little road with with father because of that.

SPEAKER_01: 49:01

So okay, so that yeah, so he sees this need to discover aliens as part of as this confirmation of evolution and and hence a confirmation that there is no God, that we are a blind, that we're just a chance uh result of chance. But he also said that the devil is clearly behind this and that just as he deceived Eve in the beginning, I wish I had the quote, but so too he does the same now, which is more deceptive than ever. Why? Because it wears the guise of science now. So the ultimate deception is going to wear the guise of science. And why? Because of not just not because of just arbitrary pseudoscience, not not so much that, yeah, although it's it certainly will be pseudoscientific, of course, because science itself is of course a good and it's you know faith never contradicts reason. We all know that. But um the modern myth with script which scripture says men will wander back into the into the end times, in the end times, the myth that we will wander into, what is the prevailing myth? What you know, the the myth meaning the great story, the story that undergirds contemporary fascination, it's science fiction. If you ask me, the great modern myth is science fiction. And if you want to find a replacement for religion, in and what what is a replacement for religion? It it's what people get giddy about, it's what people put their existential excitement in. What do they do that in today more than ever before? Aliens and AI, in a in a in a from a science fiction standpoint. They've been molded by Hollywood, especially for the last 60 years, to wait for AI to become truly rational and for aliens to disclose themselves. And all of that is reaching this head right now, today. So um the all right, so the next thing in my notes that I had there, I can go back to any time, but let me pause so I don't spoke talk too long without handing it back to you.

SPEAKER_03: 51:04

Well, I don't want I don't want to jump you off of that because you you're you're you're taking us down some some really interesting paths. I'm I'm I am wondering, man, because especially when you get to like the because while we're talking about evolution and stuff, I won't I don't I don't want to miss that, but like there was this really weird stuff that like Jimmy Aiken was talking about about aliens, and then it seemed like Matt Frad was going to have you on his show, and then somebody behind the scenes told him, Don't have Daniel on. Clearly that happened. Do you have any uh do you have any guesses as to why that would be? Do you think it was just like somebody in his locals chat didn't want one of his donors or something? Like, what do you think is that resistance to you talking about this stuff comes from it from the mainstream Catholic world? What do you what do you think that comes from?

SPEAKER_01: 51:54

My wife gave me a name and she's very intuitive, but I shouldn't say it because she's not claiming it was a divine revelation, but she thinks she knows.

SPEAKER_03: 52:04

Um maybe speaking of divine revelation, you know how the okay. So Daniel texted me and he goes, Hey, I had a dream you were gonna cancel this show. I woke up this morning and going, because I'm off today, and I'm like, should we push Daniel off? You just wanted the whole day off. I was so close to pushing you off, and then you texted me that and I went, No, we're doing this show. You just wanted to prove I wasn't a prophet. You wanted to be a big thing. The dream wasn't that far off. The thought, the thought was totally going through my head to push it off, and I'm like, no, we really need to do this tonight. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01: 52:33

So I literally name and but you don't want to say it publicly, but you think she she has an idea, and it's a big Catholic ink name, and um uh may or maybe Bench Bearer, who knows? I think this was before the Daily Wire stuff, but I don't know who knows how long that was in the works. Um Frank Thorn who who knows?

SPEAKER_03: 52:55

I think it probably I think it probably was. That that that would be my and I I don't think you might be crazy to think that, and I I it's that for some reason Trent doesn't like that. All right, for whatever. I don't want to I don't want to get you into any drama with Trent or anything, but I'm sure he's a great guy.

SPEAKER_01: 53:10

I mean, I don't I don't know him uh personally. I'm sure he's a great guy, but uh but and and again I really don't know who who got me canceled, but the point is, and it's not about me, I'm I'm not important. The point is the big Catholic platforms just don't want the other side to be given for some reason. Like it's not even allowed to be discussed the possibility that maybe we can conclude that there are no aliens and all of this. And and I'm not condemning anyone as a heretic just for believing in aliens, as much as I do believe the faith rules it out. I I understand that there hasn't been an explicit ex cathedra proclamation like completely spelling it out. So I'm not saying you're a formal heretic if you believe in aliens. I think you're wrong, and I think I can prove you're wrong from the face. You're dumb. You're not you're not gonna go to hell for thinking people like you're you think we lay it out of the moon, you idiot. You're also allowed to believe two plus two equals five. Sure. But uh, but yeah, it's it's just it's not allowed, and I hope to change that soon. I'm working on some big things right now, which I'm not allowed to publicly discuss just yet, but I'm hoping to change this soon. That that I hope to just force this into the mainstream. You hope to get them all to the context. Yes, that in fact I'm gonna personally declare.

SPEAKER_03: 54:31

It's just a strange thing to me that like because this you this topic seems like something like as Catholics, we should actually explore and we should especially if there are things in in sacred tradition and especially if there's things in the catechism, because I know you've pointed several things out in the catechism that should exclude this stuff, but in in general, it just it is another attempt to make man seem insignificant, right? And the idea that if there's life on other planets, like Christ came to redeem man. So now if there's this intelligent life on other planets that is rational, like are they also fallen? Like, do they, of course, they have to be fallen. We're in a fallen universe, we're not just in a fallen world, like the whole universe is fallen. So it it brings a ton of really important questions up. And it's a it's bizarre to me that guys in the mainstream don't actually want to tackle this issue and discuss it and figure out is there an approach that we as Catholics need to actually stand by something? And it's almost like it they're hedging their bets in case there is a disclosure, that they can go, oh, we're Catholics, we believe in science, we can still play along with this nonsense.

SPEAKER_01: 55:43

And that's why I'm not condemning. Like, I think they have admirable motives somewhere. I think that they're worried that there might be a disclosure, which yes, there will be, but it'll be a lie. And they don't want Catholicism to be refuted. Now, and I honor that. Obviously, Catholicism is absolutely true, nothing can refute it. That's you will I will I will shed every drop of my blood before ever denying a single teaching of the faith. But so I I admire that that they want to make sure Catholicism is never refuted. But you can't, but they don't realize how circular their reasoning is. They're presupposing the validity, the ontological validity of disclosure while say while hedging their bets against disclosure. You can't do that. You can't presuppose this is a valid concern in seeking to fight to uh hedge against this concern. It's not a valid concern, and merely having this concern is itself a major avenue for deception. And you know, Catholic Answers has this explainer on their website, and every Catholic-themed alien article links to it, and and they treat it as if it's the magisterium. I don't know who wrote it, it's some explainer on the Catholic Answers website that says there's no Catholic stance on aliens. If there's aliens, it's fine. Blah, blah, blah. You know, it's the typical apologist drivel on this that refuses to at all engage with reality. And that's there was just a crisis magazine article that just quoted it, as if that's the answer. Like that's the answer to the Catholic alien question.

SPEAKER_03: 57:05

One of the biggest arguments I have with with Eric Salmons is over this stuff because and that's kind of what made me put the connection together is Eric Salmons and his obsession with evolution. And because what I found is that guys more in the mainstream, what they'll say is, oh, it's perfectly acceptable as a Catholic to not believe in evolution or believe in evolution. Both of you know, both positions are acceptable, but then they'll talk about guys who kind of look at evolution like it's absurd, like we're dumb. Right. Right. And and the connection is like if you think aliens don't exist, you're also dumb. And it it is very frustrating for me as someone who's just like I like evolution is just the like the secular creation story. Why would you even care about what the secular creation story is? God gave us a creation story, that's the one you should focus on. And the reason they're giving you that creation story is so that you could believe there are other nonsense and BS they're giving us.

SPEAKER_01: 58:00

Right. And it's just it's crazy. You know, a scientific theory's validity is judged on a number of levels, but also perhaps most importantly, its ability to predict the future. And evolution has never once predicted the future. We've never been able to say, okay, here's what will evolve next out of this species that we currently observe. Never once. So we don't have a single prediction that's been verified based on it. We don't have a single uh piece in the fossil record that's that's verified there's intermediary species. We don't have the slightest, we don't have a single example of information, actual ordered information being added to the genome through a random mutation. There's no scientific evidence for it, not to mention the the theological problems with it.

SPEAKER_02: 58:40

Chaotic says chaotic systems by by their very nature decay. They don't evolve and get more ordered, they become less ordered.

SPEAKER_01: 58:48

Right. We don't we don't have we you know we didn't have um fewer, we have few more and more people wearing glasses now, not fewer and fewer. You know, genetics don't get better over time. It's that's not how thermodynamics works, but yeah, so the this idea it's kind of like um it's ugly to not believe in aliens. It's uncool, it's it's not, it's it's making us irrelevant, is the science. So they don't even engage with the and evolution. I mean, I don't believe in evolution at all, but I think there's even more problems with alien belief, even more theological problems with alien belief. In fact, I can't think of a single domain in the faith that you can actually reasonably reconcile with aliens, whether it's eschatology, protology, Mariology, Christology, ecclesiology, um, pneumatology. Every single major domain of Catholic theology is actually ruined by believing in aliens. Why? Because everything centers on God made man, God made man, son of Mary, Jesus of Nazareth, not Jesus of. Aquarius or Alpha Centauri or whatever. It's all about the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:06

It's it actually is like I don't like uh that they all say, oh, it wouldn't disprove Catholicism. No, actually, like it it it doesn't disprove Catholicism, first off, because it's not true, but it it really does de-emphasize the importance of the incarnation. Right, right. Like Christ became man, Christ didn't become some alien species on another planet. Christ became man because God created man to be a wedding gift for his son. And it's a really important thing that when people start playing around with this idea that there's intelligent life on other planets, so intelligent that they can travel light years to come to our planet, which means they're they're created more intelligent than we are, more rational than we are. Like, I don't I don't get how that is not problematic for Catholics to discuss.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:58

Now we do have I think it I think it actually does disprove Catholicism because if we're saying that you know the Catholic dogma is that everything that is that is necessary to be saved is contained in holy scripture, right? Yeah, but yet another rational species existing in the universe uh seems to change the very nature of salvation, and that's what Father Thomas Father Thomas might excuse me.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:26

Sorry, choking my coffee.

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:29

It's definitely not because of what you might have put in there before the show, right?

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:36

We were saying in the show while Daniel's coughing, we were like, there's something about like people like coming and hanging with us as they get the yeah, we all agreed, you know, to be laid back today. So yeah, it's laid back, it's fun. We're hanging out, don't worry. Um, but yeah, go ahead. I want to make sure I don't cut you off.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:52

Sorry, I went down the wrong pipe there. I think I'm good. I'll probably have to have another comment in a minute. But um, no, I was gonna say, Rob, uh, Father Thomas Wynandy is one of the greatest theologians alive, and he agrees with you. He says, I mean, he doesn't, he's of course 100% Catholic, he doesn't believe it's even remotely possible for Catholicism to be disproved, but as a clear, as a mere hypothetical, he says, yes, if there's aliens that disproves Christianity. And um again, don't be scandalized by that. He's absolutely emphatically, absolutely saying there are no aliens. So he's not he's not wondering if Christianity will be disproved. It's a it's a Pauline hypothetical, you know. St. Paul in scripture he says, if Christ is not raised, then then your faith is in vain. St. Paul wasn't wondering if Christ actually wasn't raised.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:36

It's like saying if the Pope can err in Ex Catherine and Faith of Mortals, then that deproves Catholicism. And it does.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:43

Right. Right, right. So yeah, and and and that's I I absolutely respect that. I've never gone that far just because I I want to be, I haven't uh I've thought about this endlessly for many years now, obviously, but I still don't feel like I've fully explored every single thing. I'm absolutely 100% certain there are no aliens. I've just I've never gone so far as to say if there are, Catholicism is disproved.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:05

Um the the kind of the point you're presenting to everyone, and I think it's a very important point, is that they are going to try to convince you there are aliens, right? Right. Like this is what the thesis of Daniel's work really comes down to is that they are going to try and convince you there are aliens. They're talking about the age of disclosure, the day of disclosure. And Daniel's point is that no, this is a deception. This is going to be the thing they use to try to unmoor your faith. And it is very important that you actually think because the way AI is developing, the way the technology is developing, they can make it seem very realistic. And the whole thing is going to be nonsense.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:44

Absolutely. And this is what scripture warns us against. Second Thessalonians, it says there will be a strong delusion with false signs and wonders. That doesn't mean true miracles, but it means they'll seem like true miracles if you're not discerning from a solidly Catholic standpoint. And I'm not interested in purely academic debates. I couldn't care less about how many, you know, to borrow a phrase from our enemies, whatever, I couldn't care less how many angels could dance in the head of a needle. Um, and I know that phrase is used to mock us, but like I I care about things that are going to concretely affect your salvation in the days ahead. And I'm warning about this not because I just abstractly want people to agree with me. I'm warning about this because I really think the time is coming when we're going to be officially told that aliens exist and they have this message for us. Um, and I've obviously I've been warning about this for many years now. And I'm not a prophet, I don't know the future, but it's just seems to be getting closer and closer with every passing year. This deception. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:44

Do you think there's a a connection between um all this like this this alien deception stuff as well as the the push in recent years to decriminalize and legalize weed and DMT and other psychedelics that can you know change how you see and perceive things?

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:02

Yeah. I in fact, I can't remember if I talked about this in a webcast or an article, but the um the number of people who now have their fundamental ability to discern objective reality radically uh hampered by psychoactive drugs is uh changing the dynamics of the world. And I agree with you completely, Rob, that this has got to be connected. The more people on psychotropic drugs, the easier it is to institute deception because they are already so unhinged from reality through their drug abuse. Man, if you can get weed legal, and now they're trying to legalize mushrooms because oh, because pain relief, oh, stop it. You can get rid of pain. There's a million drugs in the market now that'll get rid of any pain no matter how bad. And I'm not saying they're good for you, I'm just saying they exist. Uh, to say that we suddenly need to have people doing mushrooms left and right to make them happy or to get rid of their knee pain, this is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:58

Yeah, you know everybody that's that's been taping these hallucinogenics has the has these stories where this is where people are encountering these gray beings. Yeah, it's very much on the left.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:10

Trying to remove pain is just once again doing you know, the fall, the curse of the fall.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:16

That's true.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:16

Yeah, tell me I can't take my advil, Rob. Uh Daniel, we do have this question I want to get to. After seeing the trailer to the movie, the disclosure. Um, or I think it might be the day. Don't get me started on Spielberg. Uh Spielberg. Oh my goodness, this is gonna be a few more hours. How much do you think his new movie will not contrast Catholicism? When is your documentary coming out this year? Because you do have a documentary that you put together, and I and I've been waiting for that also. So uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:42

Yeah, I hope to be able to say more about that pretty soon. Uh, a couple a few big things are in the works right now. I I can't say it just yet, but stay tuned. Definitely this year, one way or the other, um, something significant might be happening there.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:55

Do you think Spielberg's movie is going to be a way to knock and trash our faith?

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:59

Unfortunately, it's not. I wish that's all it was, because that would be easy. It's easy to refute people trashing our faith. It's gonna be the opposite. It's going to be superficially respecting Catholicism, but using Catholicism as a vehicle of deception. And that is even more dangerous than trashing the faith. We we're used to refuting trash people trashing the faith. They've been doing that for decades and decades now. Spielberg, and this is speculation. I haven't seen the movie. I've all I've seen is the same one-minute, two-minute trail. Should we sho we could show it, I guess. Uh, I don't know. It's up to you guys. I could pull it up.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:33

No, we're gonna play something. I want to play the Uval Harare clip. Okay. Because I think that's super interesting because it kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier. Let's let's do that. Okay, we'll save that. Oh, you want to play that now, or do you want to say that? I want to play the Uval Harare clip, and I and there's a ton of stuff I want to also get to on the after show because I like what you even what what you're saying here about like that when people trash the faith, it's easy to refute. The problem comes when you have Catholics presenting you with something exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:02

Spielberg is going to give so much energy to the Catholic promoters of the deception. This is I I think before we get to Harari, real quick, I believe Spielberg is one of the chief false prophets of the Great Deception. Oh, wow. His and people are gonna think I'm a crazy idiot for saying this because they love Spielberg because everyone loves to be entertained. And Spielberg is the chief entertainer in the world today. He's by far the top director. Hollywood is by far the chief entertainer. He is the unquestioned supreme master of entertainment today. Um he, in my opinion, is the chief promoter of The Great Deception. Why? Because, as I said, what we talked about this 15 minutes ago, the the the myths which we will wander into are science fiction and Spielberg's entire career. Yes, you know, I enjoyed Indiana Jones as much as anyone. I'm not condemning you for enjoying any of this stuff. I I have as well. Um, but his career, the bookends of his career, the climax of his career, it is all about aliens. His first movie, which one? E.T. E.T. was he the Close Encounters? Close Encounters, yes. But what nobody knows about is his first movie, his absolute first ever movie when he was only 18 years old. It was called Firelight, and it was about this heroic, and no one has the original footage, by the way. There's a few clips of it on YouTube, and that's it. But the gist of it is there's this heroic guy who's fighting for getting the government to acknowledge that aliens exist and are here, and because and he has these UFO experiences. And basically, my thesis is that he is going to try this movie that he's coming out with in five months now, uh, disclosure day is what it's called. He wants to be himself the hero of the first movie he ever made, and he was 18 years old, 60 almost 60 years ago. And he has been molding us like no, like no one else, through Close Encounters of the Third Kind, E.T. the extraterrestrial, and then AI, artificial intelligence. He had us all crying over David the AI, because David and this was 20.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:15

That's right, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:17

Yeah, this was like 25 years ago. I I think it was 2000 it came out, maybe. But the the the what I don't know if it's the climax or not, but perhaps the turning point of that movie was this thing called the flesh fair. And the you have to realize that part of your battle is realizing that the bad guys in movies like this are actually the good guys. So the bad guy, the chief bad guy in his AI movie, is this uh character called Lord Johnson. And Lord Johnson has these big fairs where they just demolish machines, and Lord Johnson gives a speech right there in the middle of AI saying they are mocking us, they are mocking God's children, they are mocking God's creation. So Spielberg has the chief antagonist, the chief bad guy of his AI movie, be a devout Christian who sees the presentation of AI as human as a mockery of God's creation. And that is Spielberg in a nutshell there with the AI deception.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:15

It's that's an anti-story, right? It's it's an inverted story where the where the AI is the good, humane one, and the humans are inhumane. It's really insane how they've man, these movies really do have to be.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:29

But because it's a movie, we all sympathize with it, we identify with it, and we don't realize how much it's forming us.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:35

You are being Yeah, they have a deep psychological subconscious effect on us where you actually now empathize with the AI over the human. It's inverted storytelling, man. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:46

He did it expertly and perfectly, and nobody even realized it happened to them.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:51

The AI screams out, I'm a real boy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:56

He says, I'm a real boy. And his AI uh friend, the AI prostitute, played by Jude Law, his final words are I am, as he's being taken away by the humans. I am, the you know, the God's sovereign eyes. So this and the movie starts by a discussion of God creating Adam. And this gets back to the Kabbalah and the and the golem. And and goodness, I'm where I'm gonna take us way off. No, we're gonna do that on the other side. We're talking Zabbala. We're doing Zabbala. These Kabbalistic Jews who believed that their goal was to modern AI started with these these Kabbalistic Jews at MIT who thought that through AI they were heeding God's commands. So God made man as an image in his own image, and they said they believe that their calling at the end of time is to make AI in man's image, to themselves become God.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:56

And they're explicit about that. And that's those were the fathers of the modern AI movement. All right, we're going to the other side.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:04

We're doing this on the other side.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:06

What was I talking about? What were we talking about 10 minutes ago, five minutes ago? This time.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:09

We were gonna do the Yval Harari clip, and then we got to Spielberg brought us to that was all better, anyways.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:15

All right, so Spielberg, this has been his thing the whole time, and now he's coming out with his uh his Magnum opus disclosure day. And I believe that he is going to you he's a Jew, but he's gonna use Catholicism as his vehicle for presenting the Great Deception in his greatest movie yet, which will be his most deceiving movie yet. That's what I think is gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:36

So the the thing is, um this is a very important thing that I want to talk about on the other side too, because the the what I've been watching happening in the Catholic world is um you're seeing a lot of Catholics get grouped together with certain entities because they want to present something that is kind of true and it's Catholic. Like I watched in unison this week Matt Frad, Michael Knowles, and now Isabel Brown all came out with a form of uh Catholic teaching that is against Christian Zionism with a but. And I watched all of them come out in a few days' time as if there was a planning meeting behind the scenes where they said, okay, we need to repair the Daily Wire image, and this is what is acceptable to be presented to the public, where we say, no, no, no, uh, the church is the new Israel, but and that's what I would like to talk about on the other side because I think it's actually kind of important. Uh, you have anything, Rob?

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:38

Uh I have two questions from the audience that I that I think would be good to get to. They're from two friends of the show. Um, so first uh is from our local Protestant who will be probably uh joining RCA, whether he knows it or not. Uh this is a good thing. Um but he um so he brings up uh the abductions, alien abductions. How do you help people who claim to have been abducted by aliens and have real trauma?

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:03

Uh there's so many, and I have interviewed so many now, and they they fall, they always fall into two categories. There's there's no third category, and this is the key here. There are those who realize that what happened to them was a demonic deception and they've found healing, and there are those who don't realize that and they've become completely new age. Those are the only two categories. So this is there, there are no aliens, but there are many so-called alien abductions, and this is just the modern guise for demonic, uh, I'm not saying full-blown possession necessarily. That's relatively rare still, but at least obsession, vexation, and so on and so forth. Um, and what people don't realize is that they think that a physical mark, for example, is proof that this is a uh uh uh not a demonic phenomenon, that it must be aliens. No, it uh ask any exorcist. You don't even have to be full-blown possessed. Vexation and obsession, uh obsession, the demons can attack you, especially at night, but any time, and they will leave burns and scrapes and things like that. You can't go out of an experience like that and think, oh, I have a burn or a scrape or something, there's some physical uh difference in my room. Like one guy I was talking to he says, I was I I woke up wearing a whole different pair of pants as I went to bed. It's like, guys, that's not a proof that there's aliens. Demons do weird stuff like that all the time.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:30

And especially stuff like that, they can mess with your mind and right.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:33

Yeah, they can do, they can, there's several different things they can that the demons are fully within their capabilities to do. They cannot become truly incarnate, they cannot work a true miracle, but they can mess with your sense impressions. They can't enter directly into your mind or will. That's God's sovereign territory. But they can enter, you know, the phantasms, the imagination, the things that are kind of in your neurochemistry, kind of above your mind itself, they have access to that. They can mess with your sense impressions, they can mess with your imagination, they can mess with the light photons as they go through the air or the sound waves as they go through the air, and to cap it all off, they can actually temporarily assume an ephemeral body from the air molecules there. So they can seem, and this is what all these UFO sightings-I mean, 99% of them are just some natural thing that was misinterpreted, but the remaining 1% or 5% or whatever, the demons can rearrange the molecules in the air and create an actual physical body. That doesn't mean that it's actually a it's not what it appears to be.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:36

So it's not hosting a soul or anything, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:38

It's not hosting a soul, they can never do that. That that's beyond their capabilities, and they can't. So that would be ET encounters. In the most severe ET encounters, the demon was actually, for reasons known to God alone, was actually given permission to assume a temp temporarily assume an ephemeral body. And um, that's that's disconcerting, of course, that the devils or the demons are allowed to do that now. But also, we're told that there will come a time with these false signs and wonders, and things like that have happened before, but they're happening even more today, I believe. With UFO sightings, the same thing can happen just on a bigger scale.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:15

Yeah, in the end times, God will unbound the demons. Like there's there's a period where they're bound and Christianity spreads and and things like that. And as as the Christian altars erect, the demons are bound in the depths. But at the end times, those demons are going to be released upon the earth. I mean, you go you go and read Apocalypse 9, and it talks about the the star who falls from heaven and opens the key to the abyss, and those things come about on the earth. Like, what do you think we're witnessing right now? You're just being real. You're seeing the return of these ancient pagan deities coming back and having having authority on the earth once again. And the church is no longer the church is no longer performing her um like going around and marching incense and performing exorcisms like we once did, like, or Eucharistic processions. Or Eucharistic processions, yeah. All of our all of our all the things we did to put these demons at bay are ceasing. Bless bells. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:17

And don't forget, don't forget COVID, where the universal sacrifice of the mass was publicly suspended like never before in the whole history of the church. And that I am still convinced created a spiritual black hole that has yet to explode. I mean, we are not yet seeing the full effects of that. I don't know. I I don't know, I don't know about everyone else, but I still feel it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:36

You know what I mean? Like there's been something since COVID that it's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:40

I mean, it it's there's a dark cloud hanging over the whole earth since that. I think that a certain period and I don't get into the whole evangelical, like when did the seven year trib start? Like, I don't know. I I try to keep it more general than that. And obviously, I don't believe in the rapture or anything like that. That's all evangelical stuff that's not true. But um but they are right in in principle the evangelicals god bless them you know i love their zeal they're they're certainly right about this this these prophecies coming to fruition and it's spoken of in scripture but fulton sheen said it best and you just made me think of it anthony and i and i was looking through my pile here and i have it he said this was his famous 1947 prophecy which everybody has heard a couple quotes from but you gotta look at the whole address uh if you google it like 1947 Fulton Sheen uh I can't remember he I think it was a radio address as usual but um it's you know it it's uh I've got a big chunk of it from my book but Fulton Sheen said that the antichrist basically is coming he will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the church because he the devil is the ape of God and a lot of us have heard that line already from Fulton Sheen's 1947 prophecy that it will be reverse and emptied of its divine content but he also said concluding that same address Fulton Sheen he said that the uh the value of the trial will be to set us apart and he said the times of tr these are times of troubled troubles and it is not so much a third world war that is to be feared but rather the rebirth of Leviathan the coming of the days of the beast and then he quotes a poet Henrik Heinrich Heilm who says once the taming Talisman the cross is broken the savagery of the old battlers will flare up again then the old stone gods will rise from forgotten rubble and rub the dust of a thousand years from their eyes and Thor will leap up with his giant hammer and start smashing gothic cathedrals. Wow there you go Fulton said that in the birth of the Cold War and we are now at its conclusion. 1947 Roswell happened in 47 and that was Roswell and that was Israel. Everything started and the CIA was created in 1947 we are ending the period I believe that we are now coming to the conclusion of the period that began in 1947 and that the climax of this conclusion will be the day of disclosure which will be a lie a deception the great deception the strong delusion of Second Thessalonians. Yeah that's coming too but that's nothing don't even worry about that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22:23

For those of you who wished Anthony wouldn't blackbill um I'm sorry. Oh I love it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:29

Let's go I love it. Let's talk about the apocalypse with uh Coptic Josh did ask he said is it possible that the MWO is losing control with this mass awakening with the young people and finding all this out what happens if God steps in and stops this what if they fail I'll let Daniel answer that in a second but I I don't know if they're losing control but I think the mass awakening of young people and finding this out is really just a grace from God in that God is always looking to save souls right so no matter how bad things get in the church you still see people drawn to Catholicism. God is always at work regardless of the plans of man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:05

So I mean that's absolutely yeah don't you know and and you know so I just said you know that don't worry about the third world war worry about the the rebirth of Leviathan as Fulton said. Well don't even worry about that. Worry about eternal salvation intersternal damnation because even the apocalyptic events are nothing compared to those two realities which are always in front of us. So God's ultimate work in the world is always the salvation of the individual soul and he's always doing that even until the end of time. That let that always be your primary concern your salvation and the salvation of as many other souls as you can possibly achieve in the meantime. You know the the apocalyptic considerations I I think obviously I think that's very serious but that's always background.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:43

Foreground people think I'm people think I'm black pilling on the apocalypse and I'm like I'm excited I want to see the end of the story.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:51

Yeah no it's black pilling and white pilling and you know there's this is a big debate thing but I I I I have no no time at all for red pills or blue pills. They're both deceptions. What I I have both white pills and black pills yeah because everything's black and white for me.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:05

But uh that's why I wear black pills we're talking about race now with Daniel let's go right right but no I'm like I love the idea of seeing the return of the king it's an exciting part of the story.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:19

I don't know what he's the most exciting part of the story but also I don't think we're at the definitive end. I think the return of the king I like I believe all those old prophecies and new ones about the the great catholic monarch and and the era of the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24:34

Sorry was that I I always tell Ann the same thing I'm like we're coming to an end but it's like the end of Holhauser's fifth age.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:41

Yeah I don't think it's the end of the world I mean maybe it's maybe that soon I don't know but I I believe that all this deception we're seeing I don't think the end of the world is going to come immediately after that. I know a lot of trads do and you know this is plenty of room for disagreement the um the the like eschatology especially is something open for interpretation yeah it's the most by far the most difficult realm of all the temporal eschatology is the most difficult to pin down of all so it's like if if there's a period of peace like because I do think the antichrist is imminent but if there's a period of peace after that like that would be amazing you know like absolutely that the green of our ladies immaculate heart the immaculate heart hasn't triumphed yet like these these apologists they say oh the era of fatima's over because the Berlin wall fell come on the bled the the queen of heaven and earth promises her immaculate heart will triumph and you think all she meant by that was the Berlin wall's gonna fall no there's gonna be an era only for Yugoslavia to dissolve and everyone murder everyone yeah yeah you know there's some other things as well I just I'm waiting so I'm fully black pilled and fully white pilled um I uh if it's the end of the world that'd be perfect because you know all at the end of the day all we want is is eternal salvation that'd be the best but I don't think it is I think we've got antichrist coming and I think there's going to be a triumph of the church after that before the end of time I have no idea how long that is something I've this is something I've debated with Joshua with Charles because I do think there's going to be a restoration of Peter.

SPEAKER_03: 1:26:12

I think there's going to be like there's going to be a sequence of events that happen after like these crazy things that I see approaching. And uh it would but that's why eschatology is interesting because it is open for interpretation. Like nobody right otherwise you it like you don't know prophecy until after it's fulfilled. So it is a little vague and it's not perfectly written out we don't know exactly how things will play out and it's an exciting like God chose us to be alive during this time. This is an amazing thing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:43

And anything says she envies those in our times. Yeah she envies the tortures of the Antichrist because that's like the best time to be alive. And I know that's what you're most looking forward to Anthony is the tortures of the antichrist. I'm looking forward to the era piece after that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:26:59

It it's like um if you especially if you read uh something like the ladder of the of divine ascent things like that there or um uh what are the uh there's a couple of them where they talk about the the end times where things are so debaucherous that they're like uh one one of the one of the followers is like we would never survive that time but the thing is the people who do survive that time like it's almost like the easiest time in the world to be a saint because all you have to do is is live out your vocation or your or I just call marriage a vocation people are gonna get on me for that but if you're a husband you're a father you're a you're a child like if you're a if you're a child without parents like honor your mother and father if you're a parent love your wife love your children or get them to heaven and you will become a saint in these latter times. Where sin abounds grace abounds all the more and Saint Louis de Montfort said that there will be such grace in the end times that the saints of those times will tower above all other saints like the cedars of Lebanon tower above a small shrub and he said that will be because of their consecration to Mary and this age of Mary and I and I and he didn't know of course about Fatima he was well before then he didn't know that our lady was going to come in the greatest apparition ever and promise the triumph of her immaculate heart but by the way the uFologist one of their chief things now is trying to reframe Fatima as a ufog encounter they're trying to they're trying to take everything and turn it into an actual yeah there when these guys talk about well look at this what happened in Fatima and these people saw the sun there's all right listen we're going over to the other side Molly is right if I didn't have work tomorrow this would be a four hour show um but I do have how long have we been i i was just starting I was just getting warmed up we still have plenty of time don't worry but the people that want to see the rest of the conversation they got to cough up five bucks stop being cheap people we give the best show on YouTube Daniel's coming to hang on the other side we're gonna go over there I want to talk about uh what I'm seeing with the Daily Wire kind of giving this rescript where they're like okay this is what we can present to the public but I also uh yeah I want I there's plenty still tons of stuff to get over there we never got to the you var you uh you Harari video we never got to a few things that I sent to Rob uh in Telegram so if you guys want if you're enjoying this show come and hang with us for the rest of it I will stay late tonight we'll stay until 10 30 if Daniel can still if Daniel can hang we'll stay so um Rob put the link for uh locals on the other side yeah let me end that real quick hold on and uh we let me see I put a bunch of stuff up um we're gonna get to we got to talk about Mike Huckabee we got to talk about uh let's see your AI based girlfriend will arrive in five years according to Microsoft's AI CEO and will be a permanent companion in five years' time everybody will have their own AI companion who knows them so intimately and so personally they will have they will uh come to live uh life alongside you these people are insane but we're we're already there especially with teenagers they've all got their ai companions and it's it's unbelievably apocalyptic already I think it's I think I've read a uh a a stat somewhere and I don't know how accurate it is but something like 80% of women age 24 and under have you know had an AI boyfriend in a sense wow we're it's all we're already here we're everything that we that has been warned of has already begun. Yeah we still never actually got to the Bank of England thing where the times the Bank of England must plan for financial crisis sparked by aliens a former yeah and that's what we were going to start with right it only takes me about an hour and a half to get started. Let's jump right into that so all right so guys if you're not locals members we do the best we can to give you guys a good YouTube show but we always save the best for for locals come on it's like think about how much money you guys waste on all these other platforms. We're the best show come on the other side stop being cheap Daniel uh anything we want to promote before we go to the other side because you got a thousand people watching right now um I got a book coming out with Ignatius press uh with Doug Barry my good friend Doug Barry and uh keep an eye out for that first line of defense about Catholic men manning up spiritually but also physically awesome so and then also Daniel O'Connor's YouTube channel go check out Daniel O'Connor's YouTube channel and then what was your actual book on this it was called uh oh yeah if you want to the I got a couple books there's a huge one but please go with the little one spare yourself some time first and last deception would be the way to go first and last deception so guys uh everybody say uh thank Daniel for coming on we're gonna do another one of these because he's uh Daniel's so interesting like when a show goes by when a show goes by like this and you're just like you can't even I did it again I'm sorry I tried to restrain myself but I I wasn't actually looking at my clock I usually set a timer and I didn't do that today so I kept I kept droning on I apologize perfect show to do that on it's just I want to make sure we get these bumps to throw five dollars away so we should just do like an AMA with Daniel. That would be fun to what is AMA is that American Music Awards uh it stands for ask me anything oh okay people ask me any questions you want about aliens or all right people have tons of questions I mean I hope we have time for me to discuss the super secret trad meeting I went to this weekend but I don't know if we'll have time for that we might me and Rob might have to do that Thursday night. So all right guys if you're not members join us over on locals Rob take us out bro if you missed the intro here it is again guys