When Catholic Tradition Collides With Globalist Powers w/ Fr Mawdsley

The feed wants your anger, your attention, and your time. We want your freedom. This conversation pulls on three threads that are fraying daily life: algorithmic outrage that keeps us at war with each other, border and immigration policies that dissolve shared identity, and a Church culture that often speaks like a press office instead of a lighthouse. We map how these forces reinforce one another, why everything feels accelerated, and what a sane response looks like for regular people who want to raise a family, keep the faith, and serve the common good.

We start with social media design—why rage travels faster than reason, how bots and incentives escalate conflict, and what that does to our minds. Then we move to culture and sovereignty, asking what it takes for a nation to remain a home rather than a marketplace of strangers. Hospitality matters, but it only works when norms, language, and numbers protect the host culture. Without those guardrails, citizens become spectators to their own dissolution, and power centralizes by default.

From there, we pivot to the heart of renewal: worship and formation. When liturgy is treated as optional and doctrine as flexible, the faithful lose orientation. But when families and parishes return to practices that honor God first—prayer, sacraments, study, and service—clarity returns. That clarity doesn’t erase political debate; it orders it. Borders and tradition can be defended without hatred. The stranger can be loved without surrendering the home. Truth can be spoken without trading charity for clout.

If you’re tired of performative outrage and want a path you can live with for decades, this is your map: choose intentional media habits, rebuild community where you stand, and put first things first. Subscribe for more grounded conversations, share this episode with a friend who needs the reset, and leave a review to help others find the show.

Chapters

• 0:00 Provocative Opening Claim
• 0:30 X Suspension And Speech Limits
• 2:27 Algorithms, Bots, And Outrage Cycles
• 4:35 Immigration, Borders, And Culture
• 9:20 Heritage, Assimilation, And Community
• 14:05 Pop Culture, Disunity, And Control
• 18:20 Christ The King And Civic Identity
• 21:10 Apocalyptic Signs And Church Crisis
• 26:05 Social Engineering And Divide‑And‑Rule
• 30:10 Strongman Fears And Spiritual Response
• 33:30 Liturgy, Tradition, And Authority
• 38:45 Naming Enemies Vs Infighting
• 43:10 Gaza, Media Narratives, And Power
• 48:00 Politics, Influence, And Moral Clarity
• 53:40 Metaphysics, Beauty, And Formation
• 58:10 Eucharistic Doctrine And Education
• 1:02:30 Audience Q&A And Future Plans
• 1:07:20 Vocation, Mission, And Boundaries
• 1:12:00 Guarding Tradition And Next Steps
• 1:29:01 Closing Thanks And Sign‑Off

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:10

The British Empire was built on usury, sodomy, and idolatry. We are not supposed to realize that, but it explains everything we need to know about the mess the world is in today.

SPEAKER_01: 0:26

Ooh, that's quite the uh interest. Um Father, I wanted to get you on because first of all, we haven't spoken in a while and I miss you. Um secondly, uh everybody kind of noticed you're you you you got del you got suspended from X, which is I didn't even know that was possible anymore. And uh how how have you been? What what's been going on lately? What what happened? How did what actually got you suspended? How'd that all happen?

SPEAKER_03: 0:54

Um someone had put out an article saying how the Holocaust is used as a justification for the mass murder, genocide in Gaza right now. And I agreed with that point, but went the extra mile and said, well, that the Holocaust narrative itself is a fabrication. This is the problem that we need to get past. And like people everyone calls them each other Nazis if you criticize the Jews, but we really need to find out what the Nazis really were. Even Dr. Joseph Mengley, there's so much propaganda and rubbish spoken about him. But as long as we're maintaining that narrative, calling people Hitler or Mengle or whatever, and we don't know the history of what happened, you're reinforcing Jewish control that silences criticism. So, but it was the line I said the Holocaust was a fabrication, got kicked off X. I appealed it, and within five minutes, just like YouTube, the same thing, five minutes after appealing, oh, we've carefully considered your appeal. No, you're accounts suspended. There's no surprise. I'd had loads of posts limited. I'd been kicked off last year. And I think if you just use the social media to say what you think matters, what needs to be said, and if you get kicked off, like you say, it frees you up for better things. A real life is at mass and with your family or the people you meet face to face. That's real life. Yeah, that's you what in your state of life, what you're meant to do. What can be done on social media is um if it's used well, it's a bonus, but it's certainly not real life, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27

I but I have noticed it on social media, even things have gotten pretty chaotic. Like, um, the way the algorithm's working now, it does feel like a manipulation where it feels like they're kind of force feeding us um rage bait on a on a level they hadn't done before. And every single post I'm seeing is just trying to get people more and more amped up and angry with one another, and and how much the conversation has just changed over the past couple of years, what they're allowing on to be said in public and what they're not.

SPEAKER_03: 3:05

And I don't know, I feel like all of it is still a manipulation of us for sure, and either trying to sell something or hide something and distract everyone, especially it's not just the algorithm putting things in front of you to provoke you because they know what you're interested in. So, like if you're a bit of that and a bit of the opposite, it's the bots in the chat, which some of them seem so um disconnected with reality, they're just there to provoke you. Yeah, and so I think my mum had a rule for us when we're kids, we weren't allowed to watch the TV unless we had something specific in mind, like a particular program. Can we watch this at this time? Yes. But the idea of channel hopping, looking for something to watch, no. And so with social media, if you know whose accounts you're gonna look at and you know people you trust who speak good sense, you can use it well. But if it's using you and you're more passive and just scrolling or whatever, then certainly it it wants you to get wound up because people who are not calm and if they're angry, they're not gonna make good decisions.

SPEAKER_01: 4:14

Yeah, I mean, I find myself especially because I have to like a lot of the times I'm scrolling just to find something to talk about on the show. So it's you know, um, it's basically my like uh it's it's my content meter for like, okay, what's going on in the world right now? What are we going to discuss tonight? So I I'll get myself sucked in, especially with the videos. Like, all I see is stuff trying to build racial tension right now. I it feels like man, this is the the immigration thing has really been pressed on my on my conscience a lot or my heart a lot lately. Just watching the way this is all unfolding in in Western countries where they're just opening the borders, allowing foreigners to come in, and then you have the Vatican coming down and basically beating us over the head and telling us to accept this with and if you and if you have any if you have any qualms about this, then this then you're evil because you don't love the stranger and you don't love the poor. And I I almost feel like it's more dangerous than any other like uh any any other thing that the Vatican is doing right now is forcing us to take these foreign foreign cultures into our nations and it's completely decimating whatever remnants of Christian civilization are left.

SPEAKER_03: 5:35

Yeah, it's intentional to destroy sovereignty, and only when nations are melted down like that and split up can the globalists take over. I think the Vatican's submissiveness to that agenda is simply because they're in awe of the world, the spirit of this world. That's they're not necessarily signed up because they know where this is leading, but it's pathetic. They're without backbone. And they're betraying, I think for centuries, like there's a kind of if in a European country you have peasants, middle class aristocrats, there's certain responsibilities which go with each class. And the the ones who are working in the fields of the factories, they have the advantage that at the end of the working day they sign off, they can kind of relax about that, they don't carry their responsibility through the evening and the night. But they're the ones who put pay taxes, they put trust in the government to run it for the sake of that country, and they're the ones who will die if there's a war. They sign up and go on the front line, and they've done that for their country. I mean, basically, not everyone is going to work in the field or the factory because they're consciously a patriot doing this for king and country, whatever. But it is how the whole thing holds together. So all the past generations who've built up our nations, we have a debt to them and a responsibility to preserve the nation. And with remembering what is a foreigner, a foreigner, if they come in, they're a guest and should be treated well, but they need to remember that they're a guest. They don't have the same rights as the subjects or the citizens. And the Jews have put out this massive lie about the rights of man that they take one truth, like we're made in the image of God, and we're equal before the judgment throne of God when it comes to it. And they say, therefore, everyone in a particular nation should be have equal rights, but that doesn't follow at all. The country belongs to the people of that country who will preserve its heritage for the benefit of the foreigners and the visitors, whose numbers they limit, so it's never a threat to the culture. And it's a it's a massive responsibility. You can't force everyone to open their houses up so that any stranger can walk in with equal rights in the house. Neither can you do it for a country. And so there was something recently from Pope Leo about the there should be an awareness of heritage, that heritage is something precious, that there's a duty to preserve it. It's the first time I've heard any bishop speak about this. And I hope there's some good guys in the Vatican who will raise this a lot more and a lot more strongly. Because basically, we're surrendering our nations to the globalists, and that's intentional.

SPEAKER_01: 8:25

Well, what what's what made me a little nervous about what Leo said there was it almost sounded like he was saying um these foreigners that come into your country don't necessarily need to assimilate when they come in, they're allowed to keep their co which it's hard, it's hard for me to because like when when the Italians came to America, or when the Irish came to America, they lived in ghettos and they did preserve some of their cultural inheritance, and there would be these Italian ghettos. And one of the one of the worst things that happened in America was the suburbs. And once once the automobile was was invented, they broke up these communities of European immigrants that came in, and you didn't have Italian families, you know, marrying, you know, Italian people marrying other Italians. You now, because you were so mixed in with the others, it kind of became this this like uh just mosh of melting pot. Yeah, because and it's it did make you know those beautiful Polish and English and German and all these different communities that had their cultural inheritance preserved for a generation or two kind of just got destroyed. So I don't know. I was of I was of two minds about it when he said it, because that's that's all well and good when you have Catholic immigrants coming in, but when you start having you know Muslim immigrants come in or Indian immigrants come in and they're trying to preserve their cultural inheritance when they come into your country, what you see is what you saw in England and in America last week with the Diwali celebrations, which were scary to me because I'd never seen a Christian celebration that organized before, you know, like in the past couple of decades, where Diwali in England looked like there were fireworks everywhere and everybody was having this celebration. I'm like, why don't what these formerly Christian nations are now welcoming in these foreign gods into their into their countries? And I can't help but think God's judgment has to come upon us for this.

SPEAKER_03: 10:27

Perhaps the problem is when there's an attempt at a high level to do social engineering and it's not left, as it were, to nature. So if expats in China or Kuwait, whatever, gent do gather together, and that's natural, I think. If I were living in another country for a long time, well, not necessarily, but people want to be close to others of their background, which is understandable. The problem is though, only when the the numbers of foreigners are so big, yeah, that it starts disrupting the home culture. So in the past as well, like Jewish uh communities would have quite a degree of autonomy, like self-regulation, which makes sense because they they know their members best and they just need their leaders to interact with their civil authorities to keep the peace. And then if there's disturbances, if your um ruling classes or aristocrats or government truly care about your country, they'll they'll listen to the people. So when you have a lot of Brits, loads of um English and Scottish, they're really concerned now about immigration, and the the government treats them with total contempt, but they're not racist, but they they they love their countries, and they're seeing them being squandered away. And even even the immigrants, I've said it loads of times, we bomb the hell out of their countries to please the Jews, and then the Jews organize that millions of them come over to our countries, or else they're creating such economically impossible conditions in, for example, in parts of South America, that you get immigrants wanting to come into America. Um, and then they'll set the various cultures against each other, with all you're talking about the race baiting online, and it keeps us all fighting each other. So we don't realize who's really trying to manipulate us all, distract us all. So I don't have too much of a hard time with the immigrants themselves, um, but very much with the fact that our governments aren't listening to their own populations who are saying, look, our culture matters. We've we've built up this culture, and you're just pouring away the resources people have worked hard for, sacrificed their lives to protect in the past, and treating it as if anyone in the world has a claim on that, which doesn't even help the rest of the world. It's in the best interest of the world that each nation looks after itself and keeps itself strong, keeps its own identity. That serves us best. I mean America first, England first, Congo first, Russia first. That's how it should be in each nation. And the then the globalists have no chance.

SPEAKER_01: 13:16

Yeah, it's it's very intentional. Like I remember when um when we were going through the elections of uh 2016 and 2020, this this was a hot topic, and everybody was assuming that the open borders policy was about votes, um, that you know they're just trying to manipulate elections. And I never thought that's what it was. To me, it's we're living in a time where we're so disconnected, especially because we don't even have a pop culture that unites us. It usually like even even after technology advanced, we and and religion was kind of taking a back door, we all at least watch the same programs on TV. And we would, you know, go into work at the water cooler, you know, they would say they were water cooler talking. You talk about the the episode of Seinfeld you watched last night. Now, things are so disconnected now where we don't even have a pop culture that unites us, which isn't really a culture anyway. But and now when you add in all these foreigners coming in, most of them don't even speak the language. There's absolutely nothing that unites you to your neighbor, and there's no way for us to look and see the actual problems being caused in our nation. Like, how do we how do we come up with a solution to these? Because we're all infighting with one another. It's a it's a very divide and conquer program that they're enacting, and it's to get us to dissolve any culture that we have that unites us going forward, and then it seems like they're they're I don't I don't see how that that from this they don't get a strong man that comes to try to fix everything from it. Like I don't know. Do you do you see this as a calculated plan for that?

SPEAKER_03: 14:56

Oh, for sure, but and how wonderful the church and tomorrow's the feast of Christ the King. So he's the king of kings over all the face of the earth, the king of heaven and earth. Then you have your national feasts, like for England, St. John Fisher, St. Thomas More, that the English people can think of these saints, learn about their lives and their deaths, and that teaches you the most important parts of your nation's history. And I should have said Ireland first, so St. Patrick as well for Ireland. Um, and you have diocesan saints, which might come up three or four or five times a year, a particular feast just for your diocese. You're not departing from Christ the King or from your national um saints and heritage, but you're realizing that and parish, if your church is named after St. John Fisher, then that day will be special in your parish. So it's a way of uh building communities and identity at all these uh different uh levels. So we're talking about pop culture, that's not really we notice maybe yeah, it's the dis there's more of a disunity now, but that was never going to really hold us together. Music, in fact, if you see how music's degraded from chant and polyphony through, then we think opera and classical music are still up there, but there's a there's a slight slippage, and then you can you can follow the degeneration of music until now it's just it hurts when it's on, when you're out and you hear the music, and you just oh please turn that off, it's painful. Um so there is a degradation, and I think it's heading towards a collapse point. It's gonna get tougher, everything's gonna get tougher. And it's just certain, though, that the triumph of our ladies Immaculate Heart, it will happen if we do the five first Saturdays, not just in your own life, get your parish doing it if you can. Ask your priest, see if he's open. And the priest should ask their bishop, are you open to leading the five first Saturdays? And this is what we can do when we do what we can in our life with our family, with our parish. I think we're more relaxed about yeah, the world is going to in a massive road crash, heading fast for a solid wall. Um can't stop it. You can't stop it. That's life without God is is self-destructive, but we don't have to be on that vehicle.

SPEAKER_01: 17:28

Um, we I don't know if I've ever actually just asked you like, do you see everything we're going through as apocalyptic? Like I a lot of people think I'm blackpilling when I talk about it, but when I see what happened in in the in at the council where the church goes and changes for, I mean, we'll we'll we'll get to the Noshtra Atate thing that they're doing in a couple of weeks, but just the idea of Paul the Sixth laying down his papal tiara, the idea that the church is now going to change all of its rituals, the Jews now come back into the uh into the into Israel, like even that God has allowed them to come back because they they part of the the part of them rejecting Christ is the destruction of the temple and then being dispersed amongst the nations. So all of these things kind of coming together and culminating in the insanity we're witnessing today. It is there a way to see this apart from being apocalyptic.

SPEAKER_03: 18:31

It's hard to tell. We know that we've always got to be ready for our own death. So never mind when the end of the world is, and we've all got to keep the faith no matter what. So whether God has in store more phases, more ups and downs, I don't know. But he he did say that the gospel will be preached to all the nations of the world. I think that's more of a measure that the gospel has pretty much reached the ends of the earth. Everyone has a chance to say yes or no to it. More or less, there's some little exceptions, and that I think is more the measure that we we're close to the end then. Because what is what's supposed to happen after this? God isn't um letting history run pointlessly, it's all to come to a purpose, and he is not um ever like letting things happen without purpose, and they accelerate towards their end. So it kind of it looks like with financial collapse the next could be global. Um and the the misery now of the popes who uh tried to ban the traditional mass, not just changed it, not just put something else out there, but the way Francis attacked it, and now Leo seems to be turning completely blind eye to the bishops in Knoxville and Charlotte, destroying communities. Um that is, I think, apocalyptic. Yeah. When the person who has the highest responsibility in the world for preserving and loving what God has given for the life of the world is actually either attacking it or indifferent to it being attacked, that it's so hard to get our heads around that.

SPEAKER_01: 20:22

But even the way the Vatican seems to handle everything now, everything seems to be a focus on the temporal, no concern for the spiritual whatsoever. It's pretty scary. Like and the the the thing that they're doing, I think it's in a week or two, they're having this no startate celebration where they're bringing all these religions around. It's like um I one a guy I follow on um on Twitter uh was responding to Michael Knowles because Michael Knowles was um taking a quote from Pius XI out of context, I think, and saying the Pope Pope Pius XI said, you know, anti-Semitism is wrong, and I'm a simple man, I follow what the Pope says. Um, American Reform wrote wrote a really good response, but in the last two paragraphs, it says finally the idea of a grand Jewish conspiracy against the Catholic Church as somehow baseless and anti-Semitic, as the essay implies, is frankly preposterous. Cursory examination of the theological data bears out an enmity between the church and synagogue from the very beginning. The fathers, the medieval, and modern Catholic authors attested to the same. As Catholics, we must be on guard against the naturalistic and anti-christic tendencies, spirit, and designs of the Jews, Talmudist or otherwise. Christ tells us we must love our enemies, especially the Jews, and not to maintain uh and not to maintain they do not exist, nor that they objectively are seeking to overthrow divine order and the mystical body. Like there's there's this uh naive posture from the Vatican when it comes to our approach to how like what what that enmity between Jews and Christians uh is and has always been there since the destruction of the temple.

SPEAKER_03: 22:12

Yeah, I did see that post. American reform is excellent, and he included a quote from Father Dennis Fay below it, and who said they evidently want the world to believe that anyone who opposes Jewish pretensions is more or less mentally deranged, and that's true when what used to be the Pope Pass 11 thinker was saying don't be anti-Semitic, as in don't hate this race simply because of their bloodline or descent or whatever for any reason like that. And then they've literally turned it around now so that if you oppose Jewish evil, antichrist evil, um, they say you're mentally deranged. And I get this all all the time for opposing the Jews, and it doesn't matter how rational you speak, what evidence you bring forward. People say that that's hateful, for example, to look into logistics of World War II and think the certain numbers are just not possible. To bury 700,000 bodies in a very small area in the corner of Treblinka camp is not physically possible. And the water table there is quite high, maybe two meters below the surface of the ground. So you can't dig these really deep graves. And when you point these things out, nobody is interested in looking at the numbers and the size and the aerial photographs to show the dimension and the witness testimonies. They just say you're you're a mentally deranged hater, you're a nutjob, a Nazi. Um, and I've I'm writing a book now, The Metaphysics of Love. The first and third part are very positive about um unity, truth, goodness, beauty, how they all fit together. But the the second part is on evil, and I'm looking now into the Zoha, which is 700 years old, talking about Genesis 1.1. In Hebrew, it's um Barashit Bara Elohim, in the beginning created God, the heavens and the earth. And the the Zoha says, ah, that word created, third person masculine singular, means it created. So we have in the beginning, it created God, or with the beginning, created God. There's a a guy who translated the Zohar, Daniel Cannon Matt, for the Pritzka family. These are these billionaires who are pushing transgender evil into America and the world. He's got massive funding from them to put a translation of the Zohar out, and they're shameless, they're proud of it to say it created God. God is not the creator, the God of the Bible is an evil, malevolent demiurge, demigod. And then they get to Genesis 3.22 where it says, um, and God cast Adam out the garden. And with the word order, he cast out um Adam. And before Adam, there's a particle, et. It's just it doesn't have a meaning, but it's to show the direct object that it was Adam who was cast out. Aleph Tav. And the Zohar says, and this is what's being pushed now by billionaires, this et is God who it the meaning of it is that Adam cast out God. Adam divorced God, separated the Aleph and the Tav, which they say is the male and the female. That God split the male and the female, the female fell to earth, and it's the Shekinah of the Bible, the glory that filled the temple. The Holy Spirit, basically. And they're saying this is the female God who, when you see Jews humping the wailing wall, or Orthodox Jews near there, rocking back and forward when they pray, they've been told by their rabbis, you are having sexual intercourse with the divine female, and that way you repair the world. And we we wonder why the world's falling apart on sexual morals, and you've got this satanic confusion coming through the zohar, being pushed by billionaires, and it's it's it's it's it's longer than 700 years old, it's there in the Kabbalah and the Talmud and Gnosticism. So if our churchmen aren't being trained up on this in seminary, not to go over the top in seminary, there's lots of good stuff to learn, but you should have a little bit of an idea about the problem. Instead, Pope Leo he went to the Chicago Theological Union, where this priest, John Pavlovsky, I think, he put Holocaust studies and anti-Semitism forced onto the curricula there. You had to study these, but completely biased lies from the Jews about them. So we'd have Pope Leo coming out advocating tikkun olam. Tikkun Olam, in its Kabbalistic sense, is that God is messed up and we need to redeem him. Um now it's more like environmental activism. The world's going to be destroyed by a flood, which is a diabolical lie. And you need your kids to be losing their minds over the environment. But the first instance of tikkunolam from about I think the fourth century in the Talmud, I have to verify this. The rabbis were concerned about God's instructions for the Jubilee year, where you had to forgive debts and let slaves free. And they they couldn't bear this that you had to forgive debts. So they think they know better than the Talmud, or they're better than the Torah. They have this line that the from Deuteronomy 30, I think, 12, maybe that it's no longer in heaven, the commandment is not in heaven. And they say that means we rabbis have to decide what the law of God is. So we're gonna override the forgiveness of debts. If you're in debt, you have to pay your debts. Why did the rabbis say that in the fourth century? Because they're being paid off by the merchants, right? And they say this is repairing the world. It's hilarious. God gives his law, and they say, no, God's law is wrong. We're gonna change it to keep the money coming in and to keep you in debt, to keep you enslaved. And we'll call that repairing the world. And now we have Pope Leo saying, Tikunolam is good, let's encourage it. He has no idea he's serving this dark satanic force from the Talmud and Kabbalah, and and he went to a theological union in Chicago, which teach them that Tikunolam is something to welcome. So it's it's not his problem alone, it's the whole church until we man up and say the Jews are antichrist. That's what it means. To be a Jew who's not in the Catholic Church means you are anti-Christ.

SPEAKER_01: 28:37

This is this is why it's um it's very important to understand that there is Jewish subversion of the church, and and they've they've gotten in to make to make us all blind to the reality of what's happening. Because the the plot is for them to rule the world, right? Like, I mean, all the fathers talked about like worldwide Jewry at the end. I mean, it's and it seems like it's everywhere, and I it's very in a in a way when when Francis was the Pope, it was like people were more uh uh alert to you know something evil happening in the church. But under under Leo, I feel like everybody's kind of just like, oh, everything's okay now, and they're not, but these little things like him him quoting that, or this this thing that they're doing at the Vatican with the notion thing where they're they're welcoming in 3,000, which is very symbolic of Pentecost. It's really strange. They're having 3,000, and and the Vatican says it as people of faith, people of faith, but other faiths. It's like these are faithless pagans that they're bringing to the Vatican and allowing them, and it it's I mean, this has been going on since John Paul II and the Assisi stuff, but I don't think we were all aware of it back then because there was no social media. But I don't I I it I mean, are we are we the crazy ones for being upset about this? Because no, I'm crazy.

SPEAKER_03: 30:18

We're crazy if we think we can fix it, and that's why people rage against the Pope or the Vatican or Vatican II. All the evil that has come in through there. It is evil, and it's a crying shame that this has happened to the bride of Christ. But we do have to suffer this passion manfully and and yes, call it out. I think the frustration is thinking that we can fix it. It's such a slow fix, it's more to do with how fathers and mothers teach their children to pray the rosary and get them to the sacraments. This is how it will be fixed. And again, the five first Saturdays. Truly, we need to connect with the infinite life that God is giving through grace and the saints. It's just it can't lose, and it's there, it's so simple and right before us. And then the enemy has no chance. If the um I was reading about a deacon in the 1800s in Paris, it's called Alphonse Louise Zahed, I think, or Constant. And he left the seminary one week before being ordained a priest and got deep into socialism and then the occult, um, joined the Freemasons. And the so he was studying Zohar and Kabbalah, changed his name to Eliphas Levy. Um he eventually left the Freemasons because they were intolerant towards Catholics, and he's deep into the occult. And Alistair Crowley was drew from a lot of his writings, but he seemed like he really naively wanted all religions to be um united under one. He spoke then around 1830, 1840, I think, of the Jews rebuilding the temple, the Freemasons rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem so that the Jews could bring order to the whole world. So he he doesn't realize he's talking about the Antichrist. He doesn't quite see it, he thinks it's good. He was disappointed that the 1848 revolutions in Europe didn't quite work. He's has this concern for the poor. But he's taking a worldly view which is coming from the devil. So the world is excellent, it's amazing, and human cooperation across the planet is amazing, but only if it's in its place as God's creature and that being itself, necessary being, transcends this contingent being, created being. And the error of the world is to the devil's lie is to try to deny God's existence and say the world is everything. So there's a quote from a Jew. I've not verified it, but he was saying because they don't really have an idea of the afterlife, the resurrection, they think you must succeed in this life, because that's the only chance you're going to get with money or power or sexual pleasure, whatever. And your enemies you need to crush and punish and destroy in this life. You can't leave that in God's hands, that vengeance is God's and that he's the judge. And there's such a focus on this world, it kind of explains why they've had an apparent success in worldly power. Although a lot of it is, you know, the church protected them through millennia. And they say that they were just persecuted all the time, persecuted by the church, and by their strength and fortitude, they survived. It's not by their strength and fortitude, it's by Christian charity that they survived. And then they shamelessly take advantage of Christian societies and the opportunities they're given to lie, deceive, practice usury, get fantastically rich. And then whoever's putting the world first, that we all do in our lives to an extent, right? Do you put God first or the or your worldly interests?

SPEAKER_02: 34:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 34:04

The more you put your worldly interests first, you're basically serving the Antichrist plan. And the more you put God first and hopefully reach a breaking point when you've had it with the world's lies, and you say, I don't care anymore, it's God alone, Christ alone, Christ is king, full stop. If we talk, I don't know if we'll talk about Nick Fuentes, but that's what I like about him. He's got that formal principle for society correct, Christ is king. And he says it in a way that when he's at his best, nobody else says it like him. Yeah. He has the material principle right for a society, which when he says America first. And so it should be like England first, Brazil first, Australia first. That is not just for our interests and it's not against foreigners, it's our protection, God given protection against the globalists from Genesis and from the acts of the apostles. God made the nations and borders and gave them times. If we don't protect that, the devil wins. And Fuentes has got correct the principle of privation. St. Thomas says every natural thing has three principles acting on it: the form, the matter, and privation. The privation for society is the synagogue of Satan, the Jews, or those who say they're Jews and are not. And people get confused because they then try to apply that to every single Jew they've ever met or heard, and it falls apart a bit. But you can talk about a people. What do the Jewish people do? They're anti-Christ. So why would you give those people a voice or influence or rights in a Christian country? It will definitely destroy the Christian element if you allow it. But if you say Christ is our king, therefore the way we treat our enemies is to treat them justly and with mercy, but not for one second will we let them have influence in the public space, then everybody wins. Literally, everybody wins. And so that's why I like Nick Fuentes. And people come out with all sorts of stuff, reasons why you should have a problem with him. I can see that. I can see a lot of it is gossip and made up, some of it's true, but that's not the point. He's got these three principles correct, without which we have no hope. And that's what we should hope for from political actors. He he doesn't pretend to be a Catholic teacher. And if people push him on Catholic issues, I certainly don't agree with everything he says there. But when when he's at his best on Christ the King, it's awesome. Yeah. And for someone in politics, that's that's what we need.

SPEAKER_01: 36:35

Yeah, I think I think Nick was just kind of raised in the Novus Ordo milieu, you know. So some of his Catholic takes are very just, you know, it's just very that's that's kind of the catechesis that he was raised in. So like he kind of made a goofy joke about um uh about like having devotions to the saints is like the Pokemon cards of Catholicism or something. But my my uh I'm a little in, I'm a little my with him and E. Michael Jones, I'm just confused that the two of them they they're they understand Jewish subversion, but they don't see it in the church with the liturgy. It's the it's the one thing I'm I'm always like, man, I don't I don't they see it everywhere, but then when it comes to the liturgy, they're just like, nope, this doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03: 37:22

Yeah, I I just I'm grateful for what they do that is good and when they're at their best, and it's awesome. And Michael Jones and Nick Nick Quentas are incredible when when they're doing the the best that they do, and I'm not surprised at all to disagree with them on other stuff. That's I mean, I think the liturgy is the number one question, yeah, but very few people have are there with the liturgy right now, and I I was had no idea about it before Pope Benedict. But 20 years ago, I was clueless about the traditional mass. So I think a lot of those things are best left to nature, as it were, to I mean, and to God's grace, and not to push people too hard on areas of disagreement when it's not necessarily the thing they're trying they're offering as what they're specializing in. We can all expect to be wrong on a whole lot of stuff, of course. We've not looked into. So I'm I'm glad for what they say about the Jews. You know, I read that Imakle Jones's Jewish Revolutionary Spirit during the COVID things, and it really opened my eyes that he gave a spiritual sense to history, which I kind of had that in the positive side from Christ as the Lord of history. It had never occurred to me, this is embarrassing, that there was the negative antichrist spirit working throughout as well, from the shadows. Like I would have thought it's something disjointed that comes up here and there in somebody's life, but to see that there's a continuity to it, it's not a perfect continuity because the Talmud and then the Kabbalah and Zoha, they do contradict each other and try new things because the devil doesn't know the future, he has to see where the church is taking the world, what the church is teaching, then he knows what to attack. And the church is leading, she's she's way ahead, even in like global um presence. The Catholic Church is way ahead of the globalists, they have no chance, there's they're full of themselves and arrogance, and they intimidate people who that who then and they dazzle people. But when if Catholics assert themselves as Catholic and in society, all that will evaporate.

SPEAKER_01: 39:48

Do you see uh do you do you see that happening though? Like it's so like we we hear all uh we hear all this talk about how like um you know the younger priests are all conservative, and one day that'll and but the the way I kind of see it now is that because there are so many liberals at the top, like they only there'll always be liberals in the mix for them to elevate, and that seems to be who they keep elevating. So as as much as and they and these aren't trad priests either, they're conservatives, but we've lost like traditional formation and things like that. So I don't know. I I can't I I just feel like we're all waiting on this act of divine intervention at this point, like the way the way that I see the church dabbling in worldly affairs, worrying so much about the temporal and not about the spiritual makes me think there'll be some kind of a a spiritual destruction of the third temple, but like our we're the temple now, so there's going to be some kind of a destruction of the temple, but for us out of divine chastisement. Oh, look at that.

SPEAKER_03: 40:56

Yeah, I heard you and Rob speaking about this problem with the priests that you have a lot of you know conservative or orthodox good guys coming in, but the the liberals or the worldly ones, they're so ruthless. Um trouble is if you if you're following our Lord, you can forget or you don't know how dark it is in the souls of people who aren't, and how brutal and ruthless and liars they will be, how shameless. And and they will stop at nothing. When things seem like they're coming together, I better let him out.

SPEAKER_00: 41:37

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SPEAKER_01: 42:07

You think they'll be thrilled about uh sponsoring this episode? They said they love Father Modsley. Okay, good. Uh um, yeah, so yeah, I was saying like um uh the the yeah, the liberals are just gonna continue to elevate the liberals, but I to to me I I don't see any human fix for this other than divine chastisement. I feel I feel like there's going to be a destruction of the third temple, but the temple is kind of us now, not kind of we are like the church is the new temple. So I feel like there has to be something to set us right because that's how God has always done it through history. When when the when the when the when the Jews would stray and start start messing around with idol worship, God would bring foreigners in to set them straight, and he would destroy the temple, and then there would be a period where they had to repent and come back.

SPEAKER_03: 43:04

I yeah, I can see it makes sense that there can only be a supernatural fix, and everybody will be aware of that. Friends and enemies of Jesus will see that for themselves with their own eyes, that things had got so hopeless and corrupt that we I can't see a human solution and it and it's too slow. We only know what we can do. Anne Barnhardt said recently very well that we can each discern the voice of the shepherd. Jesus said, My sheep know my voice. So you know whether the priest or the bishop or the pope is teaching Catholic faith or not. If you pay attention and look into it, you will know that many of these are wolves. But we don't necessarily know what the solution is for the church, we don't necessarily know what Rome should do. That's given to bishops, cardinals, the Pope to discern that. But we we're not helpless in that we can't know or keep the faith. We certainly can. Nobody can rip charity out of your soul. Nobody. So that we can do, and I think things will get grim. And when we have the triumph of our lady's heart, everybody will know it was her, and not just the Catholics. Everyone else who calls themselves Christian, who's then should come back into the church, and especially the enemies, they'll they'll be gone out of their minds because they've done so much to thwart her. And hopefully, in a state of exhaustion after that, a bunch of them will convert as well. Because, um, well, that's another subject. Um I think you're right, prepare for the worst, prepare, don't think things are gonna get rosy. You've you've got to look after yourself and your family, your loved ones, um, for the faith, for the supernatural life, and it's gonna be hard.

SPEAKER_01: 44:55

Um, yeah, so all right, so that's yeah, like that everybody's approach to to how we're handling all of this and the infighting and things like that really sh really that's the one thing about um about what I've seen since Leo came in is watching trads especially like attack each other and saying, Well, you're not doing it the way I'm doing it, so you're doing it wrong. And it's like I I don't think any of us can do anything about it. I don't think anything, any plan we come up with is going to matter. I kind of think things have been set in motion, and this kind of just has to be worked out through God's plan at this point. And the best way to go about it is to, at the ground level, raise your family in the Catholic faith, find a find a parish where you can live out the Catholic faith, and it's not subverted by you know all these ridiculous things that that are being pushed on us through synodality or whatever, but just just live your Catholic faith with your family and try to build the kingdom and you in your sphere of influence, especially.

SPEAKER_03: 46:01

Yeah, and I think a lot of the infighting comes from when you're not actually fighting the enemy, if you're not punching forward, you're gonna end up punching down, which is bullying, or punching up, which is rebelling, or punching across at your brother. What's the good of that? And if you are fighting forward, fighting the Antichrist or the synagogue of Satan, then you're so glad to have people to your left and your right, people behind you, you know, a structure above you, that you um you love your brothers and you're not going to be nitpicking with them, at least not in a destructive way. The disagreements are really important, open conversations, really important. But I think that yeah, the what we call infighting is frustration of people who see how bad things are getting, yet if they're not naming the Jews as the problem for the church, as the antichrist force that's been corrupting the church, if they won't name them, and if they call it something stupid, like Israel or globalists or bankers or frankists, which are all elements of that, but they all miss the point, um, then the in-fighting happens. But when you're really engaged in the fight, but you don't fight the people on your left and right, you you're glad for them because you can't win without them.

SPEAKER_01: 47:24

Yeah, I I because a lot of the a lot of the the fighting I'm seeing is like avoiding the main subject. You know, and it's like it's like you guys are you guys are nitpicking things, but you're I I I see everybody kind of avoiding the main subject, and that like I I've gotten to a point now where I'm like, all right, look, I really just don't care what people say, like I I can't I because uh this I see as kind of the biggest issue going forward. Um, I'm watching uh especially when I'm watching the political realm and I'm seeing this massive social media push and pop and propaganda thing happening, even with the fact that they allow conversations now that five years ago would be unheard of. Like these the conversations I'm watching happening online never would have been allowed to take place five years ago. And I think that there's almost a grace in that that God's allowing people to wake up to some of the propaganda they were fed for so long that now they're even allowed to question this stuff without without. I mean, you're gonna get the label of anti-Semitism. I think people are people are just so worn down by all the labels that they're almost like, all right, I don't really care. I want to, I want to actually get to the truth of this this issue here.

SPEAKER_03: 48:41

Yet they've killed tens of thousands of children in Gaza, right? The IDF with massive support from Israelis and Jews across the world. So we need to deal with these questions. And when they come out with saying 40 babies were killed by Hamas on October 7th, it's a complete lie. And even saying they're being cooked in ovens. And then we have our national leaders repeating these lies, and we know that they're lies. So what if you're called anti-Semite? Literally, children are dying, and and they these people want to control the world. They're showing us their satanic master. Previously, 100 years ago, they didn't have that much power. It's because Christians have naively given them power, allowed them to be emancipated, falling for their lies, being disloyal to Christ and the church and tradition, not believing what the gospels tell us, that finally they have enough power to show us what they're like. Yeah. And what the whole Epstein, burying the Epstein files, um, it's so disgusting what's happening there, not just to the victims and people trafficked, but for the sake of bribing politicians. So Kim Iverson came out recently. She's good on some stuff, not when she talks about religion, but very clearly saying Americans, if if you're voting for any politician who gets money from APAC or SHIELS for Israel, like you're part of the problem. Stop it. That you need we need congressmen and senators who are America first and won't have anything to do with supporting Israel, genocidal monsters. Um, and she's she's quite right. I think the reason those conversations are happening is partly because Israel is showing its face or the Jews are showing their face, because they can now, but they were always like that, always. That's been their dream since the time of Moses. Avion and Dathan rebelling against Moses. They're like that. Not accepting God's law on divorce, that they're like that. And Theodore Reich, I'm just reading a student of uh Sigmund Freud. Yeah, I used to hear Candace Owens talking about Freud and his school and how messed up it was. And I knew it was messed up, but I didn't think it was worth looking into that much. It's the worst thing I've had in my life. There's Theodore Reich saying when Moses broke the stone tablets, he was actually destroying God. And when he ground down the golden calf, that was the Hebrew God Moses was destroying because Moses wanted to usurp God's position as the son who resented and hated his father, because, according to Freud and Theodore Reich and all them, the sons want an incestuous relationship with their mother, and that's why they want to appropriate their father's phallus to do so. It's just so messed up and disgusting. And then these Jews project that onto God the Father and God the Son, saying Jesus himself couldn't defeat God the Father, couldn't seize the fullness of being from him, like they think we all want to do, and therefore he made an ablation of himself, a total sacrifice, as a kind of a protest against God. And in the Middle Ages, this is Theodore Reich saying the reason Passion Plays became popular was because all men knew they had this Redabus complex, whatever, desiring their own mothers, and they were glad that Jesus was the one that gave the atonement for it. And that the Jews see circumcision as a castration gesture from father, as a punishment for the boy's incestuous thoughts. And so they have this constant love-hate of God, this resentment. It's completely nuts. And what's worse, it's not just projecting this onto all cultures and then blasphemously putting it onto Jesus. But the fact that Western societies, cultures, Vienna and Austria at the time, and all Europe and America, take these men seriously, these psychoanalysts, we take them seriously. And Jacques Lacan, a French one, a Catholic, saying the same garbage in the 1960s, 70s, 80s. What why do we give these people a moment of airtime? This is part of my solution now. I refuse to listen to Jews giving their opinions or news commentaries on anything. I never want to hear them because they're only going to muddy the waters with their worldly solutions. Even if they have some natural virtues and they're good according to some worldly standard, they will never acknowledge Christ the King, which is our only hope now, and the Blessed Mother. So why even listen to them?

SPEAKER_02: 53:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 53:24

And never mind platform them or work for them. The only thing we should, I think, listen to the Jews is if there's a proper dialogue with the church about Jesus Christ and the meaning of the Old Testament, for example, and the new, or between civil authorities who are trying to keep the peace. And yeah, if Jews are being targeted unjustly, then there needs to be an investigation and protection. Or if there are complaints about them as well, which there's plenty of that.

SPEAKER_01: 55:10

God's judgment can't come fast enough.

SPEAKER_03: 55:12

Kirstarmer in the UK, he married a Jew, works for the Jews. He recently said that if you don't get this digital ID, you will not be allowed to work in this country. He said it to camera. Blatant antichrist tyranny. And previously he said a couple of years ago that we will build a Holocaust museum in England, which is just going to be full of lies. If they do build it, it'll be interesting to pull that apart. And also, every single school in the country has to put Holocaust studies on the curricula, whether or not they've opted in or out of the national curriculum. He said they will have to do it. Before he was leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn was, and now he's very socialist. I've never really paid much attention to him. I'm not interested in socialism. But he was completely unfairly kicked out on charges of anti-Semitism, completely made up, like Diane Abbott, who I'm not a fan of Diane Abbott, and a member of parliament, but also kicked out apparently because of anti-Semitism, which basically means they don't think men, women, and children should be slaughtered in Gaza. If you think that and you're influential in parliament, there will be a campaign to destroy you. And then they put in Keir Starmer, who's out of his mind in serving Jewish interests. So what's very obvious in America about how the Jews have control, it's been happening in European countries. Well, Henry VIII was indebted to the Jews. We're helping their lies, helping him get uh a cover for his illegal marriages after Catherine of Aragon. Um so Everett, it's it's a long, a long problem. But the solution is easy. Jesus and Mary, easy.

SPEAKER_01: 57:02

Do you uh would the because the because the Holocaust narrative seems to have been even the whole order that was formed after World War II and the Holocaust narrative seems to be breaking apart. The you hear Daryl Cooper talk about this a lot, you'll hear uh Dave Smith talk about this a lot. Like this was a low, uh a load-bearing myth where like an entire like generations of culture have been formed on this narrative of what of the Holocaust, and you see a huge generational divide now where the older generations are still kind of attached to that narrative because of the propaganda they received, but the younger generation doesn't care about it at all. Like what whether they agree that it happened or not, they just don't care anymore. What and and to me, it kind of seems like the Jews are being backed into a corner, and that's kind of the the propaganda that you're seeing everywhere, it's being flooded everywhere, they're kind of panicking that they're losing their hold on people because people either are questioning the Holocaust or they just don't care, they're just like, whatever. A lot of people have suffered throughout history, like you guys don't have a monopoly on suffering. Like, what's the next move? I worry that the next move is they need another cataclysmic war to happen to fill to build another cultural load-bearing narrative to rest on.

SPEAKER_03: 58:27

Yeah, I think they would be prepared to nuke Damascus or Tehran in order to basically bring the house down rather than go down themselves. Um with the Holocaust, though the more interesting question is why they thought they could get away with such outrageous lies and why they succeeded. We know how much uh we have an idea how much our Lord has changed your life, changed your soul. Imagine if Jesus, you you never knew anything about Jesus, you'd be lost and and and sunk, and how much has changed our countries and our history immeasurably better than they would otherwise be. I'm not sure we've thought much about what it's like when you don't have that light in your soul, when it's pitch black, you're not baptized, and you reject Jesus and you speak ill of him. So I'm not just talking about heathen or pagan here who are indifferent or neutral to Jesus, and many of them now respect him, but they don't recognize he's the Son of God. But to actually be hostile, if you have any hostility to Jesus, your your soul is pitch black. And therefore, with the Holocaust, for example, I think the Russians got to Majdenek in I think at the end of 1943, I'd have to I'd have to check this. And they Made the most crude attempts to claim there'd been gas chambers there, knocking holes in the roofs of various buildings and cramps and pretending that gas had been dropped through. And it's really obvious that that's not the case. But then they honed that and they wanted to try the same about Auschwitz. And even back in 1942, they were saying two million people had been put to death in steam chambers in Treblinka. In steam chambers. Can you believe it? If you think of the logistics of trying to kill two million people, it's nuts. It's completely nuts. But they were fully pumped and ready to do this. Even in 1942, they'd literally been talking about it for decades beforehand that six million Jews were in danger of a Holocaust and persecution. So it's totally on their minds. And when they spring that on the world during and after World War II, why did we believe them? Why have we fallen for this? There's something odd about us that we didn't want to investigate and find out. And that you can think the Germans are capable of this. It's nuts. There's a whole the archives of Auschwitz show the life of Auschwitz. And the prisoners would work on construction projects. They have a work card for each day's work of what they've done. And there's a massive archival planning, budgeting, inspection, supplying of parts from other companies not located on site. So there's a lot of paper trail. You have the life of the camp. And those archives were preserved by the Russians and opened up in the 90s. So you can't fit the whole gas chamber story anywhere into that. And to say, well, it just wasn't documented at all. It happened without the documents. It's just a total clash with reality. Because all the locations where they said the gas chambers were were at fully engaged for other activities. That for me is bizarre. What do we think is going to happen? So if the whatever the next thing is going to be, the next disaster, um why why are we talking why are we tolerating what's happening in Gaza, that England and America and France and Germany and Australia are still supplying Israel with intelligence funding, diplomatic support, weapons. We will deservedly lose our civilization if we allow that to happen. But why are our countries supporting it? That's the thing. It proves that we don't have control over our governments, we don't have a voice. Because hardly anyone really wants this. But why is that? It wasn't always like that. It's because of the Reformation, dethroning Christ. Yeah. Setting up, like Anne Barnhardt said, this syphilis-filled, tyrannical psychopath Henry VIII, and calling him a head of a church, and then what Leo doing vesplus with Charles III, who has some lesbian aborting promotion creature dressed as the Archbishop of Canterbury. And apparently, it's more important for the Vatican and the Pope to be diplomatic and seem nice than to talk to people about heresy and moral evil that will take them to hell.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:45

So that's that's that's what I mean. It's like it's like they're they're they're they're they're abusing Christian charity to love your neighbor, and that's not love of neighbor. Like that is not love of neighbor. Love of neighbor would require the truth, and there's just this sentimental unity that is being pushed that is terrifying. Because where do men look if the church is not going to be the light of truth?

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:16

Yeah, it's disgusting. So many of these bishops have uh either abusers or they've covered up abuse, and I think it's the same kind of feeling that a victim, the repulsion you have when a grown man is trying to get close to you inappropriately, and it's revolting. And that's what's happening with ecumenism and inter-faith stuff. They're trying to impose these false religions into our sacred spaces and have us participate, God forbid, and never would, but have Catholics and once you give in to that, surrender to that, it breaks you for a long time. Um, yeah, I'm called you're asking, is it end times, is it apocalyptic? I mean, this kind of stuff is as bad as it gets. I get it's it's gonna get worse, it's gonna get worse.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:09

How is this not abomination of desolation stuff? Is all I'm saying. It's like, I mean, this is this is to me like the the the it's not just that these things are happening in the world, it's that the church or the or the you can't say the church, but like the men at the helm of what of everything are telling us this is good, like it's just so inverted and evil. And I they're the gaslighting, like I know I'm not crazy. I've read the old testament, I know how God handles idolatry, and this stuff is idolatry, and it's it's so inverted. And then what what I'm watching with the the our country being overtaken by these foreigners and the church telling us shut up, you need to love them and and and celebrate the wallie and all this stuff. I'm like, man, this is this is it's just it's just baffling to me that people don't see this as apocalyptic, like it has to be. I can't see it as anything but that, and then and that you have this the it seems like all the nations are controlled by Jewry at this point. It's like it feels like we're we're just waiting for the antichrist to take the stage at this point.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:21

Yeah, um, and uh that's gonna be grim because when that happens, most people will submit. And I can't tell if our ladies' triumph is before or after that, how long it will last. It's not gonna be hundreds of years of peace on earth. That's nonsense. Earth wasn't made for that. Earth is a threshing floor, a sifting ground. God wants to know are we wheat or chaff? Are we sheep or goats? He's not going to prolong the agony, he's bringing it to a head to decide. You know, he wants his harvest. Um, but neither is he going to let it extend, which is why I think there's this acceleration effect. There's metaphysical, metaphysical reasons why things accelerate. When you get a number of variables which start interacting with each other, then more interactions can happen. So, and his the communication and travel means human beings can interact a lot more across the face of the world. So it accelerates, but it's also so that those who are paying attention, God gives us plenty of time to pick up on the themes of history and the signals and what the gospels reveal. And then for those who are a bit slower, for example, well, events are going to wake us up. Events in the world will make it really, really obvious. Not necessarily so that we can all get together and fix it, but so that you know to put all your hope in the Lord, all of it, and stand firm no matter what they do to you. And then somehow He heaven will work the triumph.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:59

Um what uh what got you to the point where you were just like, I'm gonna just start talking about this stuff. I don't really care what happens. Like, what what was that moment where you were just like, all right, I'm going to touch the topic that no one's allowed to touch?

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:14

Um I think it was trying to understand why the liturgy was changed. And I experienced the elements of the pre-55 Holy Week in Rome um more than 10 years ago, and I was just amazed by them. It's like another world, it's like heavens opened up, um, so good. And then to try and say, why was this changed? And to realize that the Jews were projecting blame onto the church for the Holocaust, literally. Um, and so on the face of it, the church said, Oh, we need to make these changes, and that they're ferocious, the pressure they put on through the media. Um, and then realizing it didn't actually happen. This is staggering. Yeah, I see people's comments saying, Oh, my grandma was there, she saw the Holocaust. What are you talking about? What do you mean she saw the Holocaust? People need to identify places, names of camps, and dates, and no one's denying that Hitler expelled millions of Jews, and they were put on transports, they were taken to camps, and many people died in the camps, and they were did Trump send them further east into once Soviet territory. But the the the gas chambers are planned genocide. This didn't happen, it just didn't happen. So realizing that that lie is what has caused the church to pull the plug on the salvation of the world, that's what the traditional liturgy is, and and the scriptures, how we can know our Lord and cleave to him. That's just outrageous. How are we gonna sit while while that's happening? And that we we we all have this idea that Hitler um wanted to take over Europe, it's complete nonsense. It was England and France who declared war on him. He didn't want to, he wanted war with the Bolsheviks, and that that makes complete sense. But all the time the Jews want to take over the world, because they're not thinking of the afterlife, specifically because they were the chosen people, so you have this massive expectation of the promises of God. But instead of listening to God that He's promising salvation for the whole world through his son, you just want all you the only bit you're interested in is we get to rule the world, and everyone bows down to us. And if that's driving you, no wonder you're sickhouse. Um so it's not so much that they're lying and they're evil twisting of history and projecting their psychoses onto other people's, it's that the church let go of what is our charge and duty to protect and treasure, which is again, it's the life of the world. It's not like this is an option. When people talk about the novice order and the traditional mass, the moment they talk about what they like and their preferences, I think, what are you talking about? Oh, I like this, I prefer that. Only about God, the eternal living God. What is due to him? What should we offer to him? And if you don't even have to say the prayers of the traditional missile are so much better, of course they are, and the rituals, of course they are, they're so much more reverent, they so look after the particles of the host. Why priests don't do this in mass anymore? I don't know how they can live with themselves if they believe in the real presence, and I don't know how they can be priests if they don't believe in the real presence. It's not even that, it's that we've been charged with keeping tradition. And most people, and me for most of my life, was too retarded to realize how important that is. Where else is salvation gonna come from if not from through tradition? You're not gonna figure it out as a new generation. Oh, we've just found out what none of the past generations knew. We're gonna do something new to help save the world. What else is the church here for? She has to hold tradition because our enemy is so ruthless and so cunning, he will pull things apart that baffle us and that we can't see it happening. And we we're just not that evil that we would dream somebody would do this. But we'll be safe if we hold tradition. And I'm not saying tradition is everything, charity is everything, but how how we owe that if we have a love of God, a charity for God, we will preserve tradition. Um so that's what makes me mad. That's what makes me mad that we're we're throwing away uh the life of the world in order to please the antichrists.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:00

Since you uh since you brought up the liturgy, um, the first part of that tweet from American Reform touches on that actually. I just wanted to read that this real quick. So this is from Cardinal Mary Duvall, who was head of the holy office, uh, basically would be head of the the DDF now uh in today's speak. But he wrote after um in 1928, when an ecumenical group proposed removing the Good Friday prayer for the Jews from the sacred liturgy, he wrote, This report put forward by the so-called Amichi Israel strikes me as completely unacceptable, indeed, even rash. We are dealing with ancient prayers and rites of the liturgy of the church, a liturgy inspired and consecrated for centuries that includes condemnation of the rebellion and betrayal perpetrated by the chosen people who were at once unfaithful and decided. I would hope that these Amichi Israel would not fall into a trap laid by the Jews themselves, who insinuate themselves throughout modern society and seek with whatever means to minimize the memory of their history and take advantage of the good will of Christians.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:15

That's awesome. That's the money quote. It explains so much. I have it, in fact, in a couple of my Holocaust narrative videos. I've just started a new channel just for that series on Odyssey. So the latest one that's up there, HN1012, has quite a bit about that, about the Good Friday prayer, and Cardinal Mary Del Val really doing the honorable thing protecting the church. And he's been he should be beatified or canonized. And it's it's because of things like that that no one in the Vatican would even dream of it. Just to a quick update of one more video to do for the HN series, which I'll probably do at the beginning of next year, on what we can do about the Jewish question, Jewish problem, what anybody can do, and also that book cover that you flicked up, Metaphysics of Love, should be out, God willing, this December.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:05

I was gonna that's what I was gonna get to next. Like, what so since you've been off social media, you're starting to write this new book. How is that being off social media giving you a little more time to devote to study and things like that? Like, what is the new book?

SPEAKER_03: 1:15:22

Um each time I write the book, I'm hoping it's the last one, but they always end up twice as long as they should be. So I have to cut it out the guts of it and say, right, that's a future book. So this one, I've I've loved metaphysics since I discovered it at seminary with the FSP in Bavaria back in 2010, 11, 12, was doing the philosophy there. It's just amazing how reality has been figured out by Aristotle in large measure, and then in the light of Christ with the grace by St. Thomas Aquinas and the scholastics. They've laid out so much that makes sense of nature and creation and how that contingent being connects with subsistent being in itself, God. It's it's awesome. And when they talk about unity, truth, goodness, and beauty, to see how these are metaphysically connected. So any attack on unity or truth is always an attack on goodness and beauty, and vice versa. And there's the the professor there at the seminary in Nebraska, um, Dr. Dennis McAneni, he's retired, but his books on metaphysics are just brilliant, and he's so humble. He writes so that even um people who've never heard anything about the subject can get into it because he had a lot of interaction with his students to work through the I my book's not that good, unfortunately, because um I'm not teaching, so I'm not interacting, discussing it. And I'm not quite understanding what concepts are difficult for people. But I the basically the beginning of the book might be a bit difficult, ideas you've never heard of, but it gets easier and easier and easier as they come together, and then the last part is about the beatific vision and what this means now for how we live now to be suitably calibrated for the beatific vision, which can only happen after you're dead, but it begins now, and this mutual indwelling of love, of how spirits can unite by love. It's it's a and all this is in St. Thomas Aquinas, it's amazing, and then the middle section is on evil and how it has its own materialist metaphysics, basically, which means denying the analogy of being, and listening how Jacques Lacan, Catholic, but hostile to Aquinas and Aristotle, and how these Gnostic Jews today are furious with St. Thomas and Aristotle for the analogy of being. They hate it, and it's it's the voice of the devil he wants to deny God's like they their story that the Gnostics were part as well is that the true God is a jealous, selfish God who keeps necessary being for himself and tyrannizes creatures so that they can't taste what it is. It's ridiculous to be God. We can't be God, but we can be like him and united with him. That's his promise. So they they talk about this fullness of the void, um, which is non-being. They want us to fall in love with non-being and say it has a certain joy of rebellion in doing that. No, that's hell. That's the last thing you want to do, and they they deliberately push this and try to excuse it with myths and mesmerizing language of their mystics. And it's so transparent once you've had metaphysics to see they're actually just inverting the truth. Um so that's I think if the church will recover her metaphysics in the seminaries, seminarians need to learn this stuff, and then priests will have it, and it completely blows transgender out of the water and evolution out of the water. You can't have macroevolution if you've got sound metaphysics. You can't have transgender. Um, so that that's and all the heresies against the Holy Eucharist. I have seen a couple of guys on X recently talking about transubstantiation and the substance and accidents. I have never in my life seen people speak so well about scholastic metaphysics of the Holy Eucharist. It's amazing. You have these Protestant heretics attacking the teaching of the accidents of the bread while you have the substance of Christ. And I can't remember the name of the account, he was explaining how the accidents, it's not essential to the accidents that they inhere in the substance, but they are disposed to do so. And God can have the substance of himself there in the host and in the chalice while also sustaining the accidents of bread and wine above them. Now, not everyone has to get into the metaphysics of it, but the priests should. Yeah. And if we do, if the church recovers that, and the laymen as well who are disposed to it, they are like a necessary help for the priests who devote their lives to this, then the heretics and the political turmoil and the moral degradation would just won't be able to get the foot in the door. So I'm hoping with this book that it will give plenty of Catholics a taste of it and inspire younger men to study it and excel in it, um, and priests to look into it if they've never had any proper metaphysics. Um and even people will correct me where I've made mistakes. But I'm happy if the truth of it is getting out there. But what basically Aristotle he changes um your whole worldview is awesome, and and then Saint Thomas brings it to heaven. We we need it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:10

Yeah, the um man, I the the the way we are taught as modern Catholics, even like with the slop apologetic stuff, it's like we need something a little more in-depth to handle the the things that we're facing right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:25

So um, kind of on that subject, we have a a couple questions uh from the audience kind of related. Um, so one, Molly, uh Mrs. Casey asked, yeah, father would consider doing a series with us on YouTube that's more spiritual or theological, maybe once a month. It would be nice to see that on a show that's more blue-collar.

SPEAKER_03: 1:21:48

It's it's a good idea, but I simply don't make any commitments because I'm I although every time I nearly get to the end of a project, I foolishly self-impose another one on myself. I need to step back for a few months, really. Um so I want to finish off the Holocaust narrative video series, finish this book, and then reassess because we can't defeat this evil, I think, as well, but simply by engaging with it in fighting, although that's important. We need to first be engaged with the good, with with Christ, with the liturgy. And it's so good that then the evil is completely uninteresting and unattractive, and you don't want to let it in. Um, the way that social media can take over, you know. So I'm also I'm I'm suspended, right? Um, because I couldn't possibly be raising these things if I were part of an order. Um, but it's not a great state to be in. I'm obeying all the penalties of my suspension. I'm not trying to set up an apostolate, but I do want to have a rethink about all that. I'm not gonna go ask to be received back into any order or diocese with faculties if I can't say the traditional mass and uh the proper Good Friday prayer for the Jews, basically. And that's not about to happen soon. I think it's could be another 10 years or something. Yeah. Um, but that's a long answer. I basically I might really disappear for a few months. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:19

Well, I don't know if we can do anything regularly, but if there's something that we can come up with together, it might be might be nice to just do something because our especially the first like two or three episodes we did together before we started getting onto this topic, they were that they were all spiritual, they were beautiful. Yeah, I guess what I sorry, go on. No, I was I'm just saying, like, the uh this topic has just become something very important that needs to be discussed, and like even when people are listening to this, I know like even like some sometimes when you talk about the Holocaust, my and my reaction is like it's like we have been so programmed to think you cannot discuss this, which is kind of why I want to get you on. It's like I'm not going to like if I the truth has to be spoken about.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:06

So if you guess what it's very hard to do saying why I'm suspended and obeying the penalties, I never want to assign myself any kind of mission. I have that'd be disastrous. I never want to assign myself an apostolate. The reason I feel completely justified raising the Jewish question, and the Holocaust is a big part of that for liturgy, is because I was removed from saying mass because of COVID, a Jewish thing, and told to send the faithful away, which I wouldn't do, and then traditional custodes, Francis trying to destroy the traditional mass, and that blocked my reappointment. So I I feel my on the day of my ordination, I'm obliged to say not only mass every day in the office, um, or there's different obligation with the mass, but in an apostolic society where you have active orders who might teach in schools or work in hospitals, you have contemplative orders who very much even cloistered, but apostolic means you're meant to bring the fruits of your contemplation to the faithful, to the world, and and the sacraments and the gospel. That's what God shows me through the act of ordination that the church wants of me. For the hierarchy of the church, then to capitulate to this antichrist Jewish COVID tyranny, and then for Francis to work for literally for Satan, trying to uh eradicate the traditional mass, which is said in that letter, the idea is to get everyone to the novice order in the midterm. That's where this is aimed. I'm not allowed to submit to that because I'm ordained for something else, which is lifelong and can only be changed lawfully, not illegally. And it I'm I am not going to consent to a change to that mission that Christ has given the church. So that's everything I've done since leaving my order and being suspended is aimed at this purpose that we have priests are recognized to have the right to say the pre-55 Holy Week. When that is achieved, everything else can follow. Doesn't mean it will, but it can. Things can come back to normal. The church can be itself. So everything I'm doing is for that. And if sorry, again, a long answer, but if I start saying, Oh, I'm gonna write books about this and that and go online for this and that and do video interviews for this and that, I will then I think fall down a slippery slope where you then start setting up your own apostolate, appointing yourself, treating yourself like you can give yourself a mission, you can't. I'm only trying to save the mission I was given on the day of my ordination. And I'm I have every right to do that, and I'm not scared to to fight for it. Yeah, but if I if I stray, which is very easy, because you want to you think you're making an impact, you think you're fighting for the truth. Then no, we you really have to stick to your duties of state before you take anything else on. Um that's what I need to reassess.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:06

Yeah, like yeah, you think you're making an impact, people are starting. It's very, very hard. It's a struggle, especially for I think anybody doing what we do, like the um there, like I we I I actually like that we're a small show and that we don't get that much recog like that much attention because you've been on other shows. Yeah, you've only been to Vanity Fair once, eh? Well, I well, the thing is, like, there's the there's another show you've been on that caught a lot of heat for having you on. It's because they're more mainstream and they and it's like the fact that we're not mainstream gives us the ability to have conversations like this where you know nobody cares what the construction worker and the accountant are saying, you know, it's like that that's why people want to watch it though, because it's so real, because you two are so real, um, and it's not so filtered, and it doesn't have this backdoor pressure yet.

SPEAKER_03: 1:28:05

Yeah, but because the thing is, because of what you are, you grow, and then the pressures will come. Temptations for a bigger sponsorship or for just modifying your words so that you don't get a strike or something. That and every everyone has to deal with that, yeah. So it's it's very hard for the big channels to to balance it, and very tempting for smaller channels to want to aim big. I think you're best when you detach from everything, let go, say what you think matters, and and be very easy going with other Catholics who are saying what they think matters. And it's then the conversation that um helps us all, right? It's not that some guy is gonna come out and lay out everything true, but we're having a conversation about it, especially when the Vatican is compromised. It it's definite there has to be confusion, yeah. It can't be normal while that's continuing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:03

Yeah, the the the it is so much confusion right now. I think I think a lot of people are just just just trying to get a bearing on what what what what is going on in the world and in the church, man. It's like we we yeah, that's it. I mean, I that's that's kind of what it is for me, and I and I like having conversations that kind of uh challenge my presuppositions and and then also just ones that are difficult because you're afraid of the backlash you're going to get.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:35

Like we're it's it's I think you're very good at k keeping a broad spectrum of guests coming in, yeah. You know what I mean? That's that's brilliant.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:46

Um, um, yeah, by the way.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:49

I put that dog out an an hour ago or half an hour ago, he's not come back, and I'm responsible for him.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:56

So I'm gonna we're gonna wrap this up anyway. But father, thank you so. Much for giving us your time. We always love having you on. Um, if in a few months when you're book when you're when you have something else coming up, let us know, and we'd love to get you on to talk about it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:30:09

All right, thank you very much. I will. Thank you so much, Father. God bless you all.