Cardinal Burke Makes Strange Claim About AI Videos of Himself (Full LOCALS Version)

What happens when AI fakery, cultural flashpoints, and a wobbling Church all collide in the same news cycle? We dive straight into a fabricated video pinned to a prominent church figure and unpack how “AI slop” channels weaponize controversy for clicks. That opens a larger door: if anyone can forge a message, how do believers sort true teaching from noise—and how should leaders respond without sounding like press releases?

From there, we zoom out to a week where Diwali lit up Western capitals and social feeds, sparking questions about religious visibility, identity, and whether institutions are stabilizing pluralism or speeding its fracture. We trace that tension into the Church’s own house: the fate of Traditional Latin Mass communities, requests for dispensations, and what limited extensions reveal about the Vatican’s approach under Leo XIV. Along the way, we weigh calls for clarity from bishops, the language we use to describe anti-Christian violence, and why softening everything into “social conflict” can erase the lived reality of the faithful.

The episode also tackles the engine behind the outrage: algorithms that reward rage, tribal performance, and bad-faith bait. We look at how viral cycles distort our judgment, why bot farms can swing a conversation, and how credibility gets spent on spectacle. A segment on charismatic miracle claims challenges the line between faith and showmanship, asking whether viral testimony without verification serves the Gospel or the market.

We close where most of this actually lands: at home. Marriage strain, porn, and the hard work of fidelity aren’t solved by hot takes or hashtags; they’re built by small habits, real accountability, and grace. If unity means anything, it has to be rooted in truth-telling, pastoral courage, and local bonds strong enough to outlast the feed. Listen, share your take, and help us map the way forward together.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Sponsor Banter And Setup
• 1:45 Diwali Visibility And Cultural Anxiety
• 3:20 Social Unrest And Migration Flashpoints
• 7:00 AI Fake Burke Video And Media Scams
• 10:40 Vatican Loyalty And Tension Under Leo XIV
• 14:10 Tradition, Liturgy, And TLM Extensions
• 18:20 Confusion In The Church And Leadership
• 22:40 Ecumenism, Borders, And Identity
• 27:00 Algorithms, Rage Bait, And Online Polarization
• 31:10 Viral Tweets, Bot Farms, And Backlash
• 35:20 Protestant Charismatics And Claims Of Miracles
• 39:10 Media Strategy, Monetization, And Credibility
• 42:30 Liberal Catholicism, Vocations, And Power
• 47:10 Blackpills, Accelerationism, And Hope
• 51:00 Marriage, Porn, And Domestic Strain
• 55:00 Closing Notes And Move To Locals

Transcript

SPEAKER_04: 0:10

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, concerning false videos and images circulating online, it has come to my attention that certain deceptive productions are being circulated which attribute to me.

SPEAKER_00: 0:27

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SPEAKER_04: 0:42

I state with all clarity that such assertions are entirely false.

SPEAKER_07: 0:54

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SPEAKER_08: 2:24

That's what Indians do. You get one of them in somewhere and they bring everyone over.

SPEAKER_07: 2:29

It's so nuts. Did you see the um celebrations in in London for Diwali? Yeah, it's insane because I've never seen a Christian celebration like that in London. No, not in our lifetimes. And it's I mean, I just I don't know, man. All of this stuff, it just feels like everything is so shaky, like all of society is on the verge of cracking everywhere, like all over. It just feels like everywhere, everything is so fragile right now. And the the whole Diwali thing yesterday was just so bizarre, man. It's like they were just trying to shove it down on throw Trump at the White House doing the doing the celebration there, and with this with the Vatican doing it, it just I don't know, man. I don't know what to make of all of it. And then and then you have um uh a Muslim kid stabbing a kid at a Catholic school in England. You have riots going on in Dublin right now because they let a migrant basically get away with um a 10-year-old girl. It feels like everywhere the world is just so turbulent right now. Um you watch the videos down on Canal Street by me. Now, Canal Street was always like they always sold design, like fake designer knockoff bags and stuff. Um, and it used to be the Chinese down there, but what has happened on Canal Street is insane. Like it's just like an open-air drug market down there now. Counterfeit everything, and it's just run by African migrants. It's nuts. Um, wow, this is all horrible. I think we need an encyclical on climate shit. Yeah, no, no, they're gonna give us an encyclical on open borders on how how we should we should allow this to continue. I don't understand what like where is any I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08: 4:29

They just don't live in the real world, and that's what it comes down to. They're either completely ignorant because they don't live in the real world, and those are the good faith ones, or they're just evil men.

SPEAKER_07: 4:40

Yeah, yeah, I think it's malice. I think it's malice. I can't, I at this point, I mean, the things that we're seeing is just like even when you even if when you see the amount of tension it's causing in all the countries that are allowing the migration to come, like you're you're watching people's lives like they're the whole all of our countries are just being completely un unnerved right now, and instead of any kind of empathy towards the people who are having their countries ripped apart, it's just shut up and be kind, shut up and be kind. Do you have to do you have to do this? You and it's just I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_08: 5:21

I don't know where it all goes, but I think in like um I think Spain, like the average person lives on like ten thousand dollars a year, right? Equivalent to you know to our currency, and yet so so in America, like that would be like very, very poor. And yet they want Spain to take in hundreds and hundreds of thousands of migrants. It's how is that helping the poor? It's it's creating the poor, it just creating the poor, exactly.

SPEAKER_07: 5:53

I don't know, man. I don't know what the hell is going on. I'm I'm like, I have a hard time keeping up with everything lately. Like the last week, I've had a really hard time keeping up with everything, but the the the Wally stuff yesterday just kind of blew my mind. I was like, they're it's just like out of nowhere, this is everywhere, and they're just trying to force it down our throats. This is like worse than the Kwanzaa thing, like where they were trying to make us accept Kwanzaa as a real thing. Like, I don't know, I don't I don't get how this helps anything. I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_08: 6:26

Kwanzaa, Juneteenth, Dwali. Everything that they can do, they'll do everything possible to to suppress, like you know, the holidays of of Christendom of America.

SPEAKER_07: 6:41

Yeah, like um like any kind of Christianity that this country had roots in, like they're trying to, it's so nuts. I mean, in the past past five years, it's gotten completely out of hand. Um, I guess we'll we'll jump right into Burke. The the Burke situation was just weird to me. Um only because I had never seen an AI Burke video. I had never seen one either. I I just and so it was it was kind of it was the whole thing just seemed kind of strange. Where I don't know, let's walk let's watch the Burke video, we'll go through it and and we'll we'll kind of criticize it. Not criticize, but just like I don't know. I don't I it just seemed kind of strange to me.

SPEAKER_08: 7:23

Okay, let me pull it up here.

SPEAKER_04: 7:36

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, concerning false videos and images circulating online, it has come to my attention that certain deceptive productions are being circulated which attribute to me words of opposition to his holiness Pope Leo XIV. These reports claim that I have delivered a so-called rebuke of the Holy Father regarding his teaching and governance of the Church. I state with all clarity that such assertions are entirely false. I have made no such statements, nor have I given any address or interview even remotely resembling what is being described. These videos are fabrications, works of deceit produced through technological manipulation of my image to convey messages that I have never delivered. The deliberate use of falsehood to sow division within the church is gravely sinful. Our Lord Himself teaches us that the devil was a murderer from the beginning and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

SPEAKER_07: 9:11

I mean, we don't have to watch the whole three and a half minutes, but we'll pause it there just because I want to I want to discuss that so far. So I had originally thought he said there were AI, like made it look like him doing it, but there are these like AI slop videos that are on YouTube that are just they're so ridiculously obvious that they're AI that I don't even think, yeah, like this is these are so so ridiculous.

SPEAKER_08: 9:37

Yeah, so for anyone who it's been over the last one, two, maybe three months, all of a sudden there are multiple just complete AI channels popping up in every sort of category you can think of. Like it, like this one at the bottom is weird. If you go to this this channel, it's supposed to be about MMA fighting. Yet, you know, whatever whatever research they're doing told them that day that a video about Burke talking about Leo would get views, so they popped out an AI video about that. Like they're it is weird that AI videos are popping up for every every YouTuber out there almost.

SPEAKER_07: 10:20

I mean, not smaller ones like us, but but the implication that he's making is that it's Catholics doing this, and it's not. No, it's not, it's these aren't Catholics. People that are mad at me over my tweet. Yeah, it exactly. That's that's what this is. This is it's so Ed Penton wrote an article that kind of implied that it was maybe Chris Jackson and Stephen Cox behind it, and it's like no, this is ridiculous. Like, that's not at all the situation, and then and then Michael Matt came out, and he's like, This is outlandish, and anybody doing this should cease like cease. It's like nobody's doing this. What are you talking? It was just it's the same people that are making all the other AI videos of everyone, of everything. It's it's an AI creating the AI videos, I think. Probably it could be, yeah. It's it's there's not it's not Catholics trying to sow dissension in the church at all. So it was just it's a bunch of overseas scammers just trying to get ad revenue. That's all it is. So when he put that video out, I was just like, what the heck even is this? Like, what I think it was this weird um opportunity for him to just profess his undying loyalty to Leo.

SPEAKER_08: 11:43

I don't know if he like I mean he's a boomer, you know. He doesn't know who's making the he probably does think what he was saying and just doesn't realize it.

SPEAKER_07: 11:59

Yeah, I mean, you know what it you know what it was, it's like the guys like Burke and um Sarah even or Sarah, um, under Francis, like when when the doc when the doctrine got a little, you know, when when like Amoris Lotitia came out and stuff, and we oh we're gonna present the dubia, and you know, this is confusing, and then when the married priesting came up, Sarah wrote that book. But Sarah might make like a comment here and there about you know how Islam is gonna destroy Europe, but there's no there's no one like in the hierarchy that's concerned with the things we're concerned about.

SPEAKER_08: 12:40

No, if anything, uh they think it's just farmers versus goat herders.

SPEAKER_07: 12:45

Uh maybe Schneider. Schneider is Schneider, yeah. Schneider seems to be like Schneider, Schneider and um and Strickland.

SPEAKER_08: 12:52

I I think um isn't there one cardinal, younger cardinal from it's either Norway or Sweden. I think his last name starts with a V. I think he's maybe mentioned immigration a few times because his country is you know uh under attack through it, but yeah, that it's almost there's a very few of them. There's just so few.

SPEAKER_07: 13:20

And it's not but I I think even Strickland needs to talk about the immigration issue more, and it's not this isn't a um a political issue at this point. This isn't like a um it's not like conservative versus liberal and or Republican versus Democrat at this point. Like we are we're really getting into some dangerous stuff here where our countries, and it's not just America, it's America might withstand it better than Europe, but Europe seems like it's on the precipice right now, like about to completely just fall off a cliff everywhere. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the I don't know what happens, and then so you could finish playing it out because he goes on to just it's it's it's almost like he's um man, I don't I don't know, I don't know what happens under Leo. Well I don't know. Things are kind of getting shaken.

SPEAKER_08: 14:12

Eric Varden, yeah, that's what I was talking about.

SPEAKER_04: 14:17

These falsified productions bear the unmistakable mark of the evil one. Whoever seeks to confuse Did he just call the subcontinent the evil one? The faithful, and to set brother against brother within the body of Christ. I therefore declare publicly and unequivocally my obedience, filial love, and unwavering respect for the Supreme Pontiff, Pope Leo XIV, the vicar of Christ on earth. The unity of the church around the successor of Saint Peter is willed by our Lord Himself and is essential to the integrity of our Catholic faith. I urge all the faithful to give attentive heed to the authentic teaching of the Holy Father and not to the voices of division which distort the truth for worldly purposes and sow the seeds of scandal among souls. Let us respond to the situation not with anger or suspicion, but with faith and prayer. The Christian's first recourse in every trial is always to the heart of Jesus, who conquers falsehood by the power of his truth and love. I ask you, therefore, to pray earnestly for those who create and spread such deceptions, that touched by divine grace, they may turn from darkness to the light of truth, from the bondage of lies to the freedom of conversion, and be reconciled to God, who is rich in mercy and abounding and steadfast love.

SPEAKER_08: 16:19

Yeah, I don't know why he got so worked up over some Indian AI slop.

SPEAKER_07: 16:24

Indian AI slop and um I don't know, man. I I don't know because the things were the things we're seeing under Leo are not helpful after all. Like um the okay, so even the um, so they got an extension in Cleveland for the TLM, for their TLM, right? But they request they they requested a five-year extension. So the the bishop requested an additional five years. The Holy See granted two years with the following instruction. We ask that you continue resolutely to lead the faithful who are attached to the uh anterior ritual form towards full appreciation and acceptance of the liturgical books renewed by the decree of the second Vatican Council and promulgated by Pope St. Paul VI, John Paul II. Furthermore, they recommend that one of the masses usually celebrated according to the 1962 Missal be celebrated in Latin using the current Missal. So they asked for five years, they gave them two, they said, We'll give you two, and we want you to start orienting your parishioners towards the new missile, and we'll give you your Latin novus order.

SPEAKER_08: 17:35

But to be fair, I I do think it's either traditionus custodus itself or the um the the dubia rescript that states that two-year dispensations can be given.

SPEAKER_07: 17:48

Oh, so they they won't, they're not allowed. So I they were there was a testing ground there, I think.

SPEAKER_08: 17:53

I I think so, and I think it shows that yeah, that the best we're gonna get is uh at least two years stick to stick to Francis's documents.

SPEAKER_07: 18:07

That's that's depressing, man. Uh so well, all right. So what I'm thinking is the bishops who keep asking for their two years, they'll get it.

SPEAKER_08: 18:15

But as these okay, well then then what about Knoxville? Because right, because Knoxville claimed that they asked for an extension, and the the DDW told them no, you're shutting it down. So either the Vatican is picking and choosing which ones, and if they're doing so, I I you know what are the reasons for that, or Knoxville's lying.

SPEAKER_07: 18:42

Knoxville's bishop didn't ask for an extension. I don't think they asked for an extension. I think maybe, maybe, yeah, maybe not. I don't know. I think their extension was up and they didn't ask for a renewal.

SPEAKER_08: 18:52

It very well could be.

SPEAKER_07: 18:55

I don't know. So I'm I'm seeing it as like the the bishops who like really like are in favor of the TLM, like they'll keep giving them their extensions, but as those guys age out, they're gonna replace them with their own guys, and you're gonna eventually get all these new guys that just get elevated that have been elevated for the past 10 years going forward, and you're just it's gonna they're going to wipe it out as best they can on the diocesan level. Yeah, I think I think that's pretty clearly the Vatican's goal. Yeah, I have no like hope for some restoration of the diocesan TLM.

SPEAKER_08: 19:27

I think Leo's Vatican is gonna be not as um confrontational about it, you know. So it'll drag it out a little bit longer, but it does seem like that is still the goal of the Vatican, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 19:43

Yeah, yeah. Leo's just he's he's gonna like put put like uh an a nice smoothness to the uh approach, but it's the same approach. I mean, that's what it seems like to me. Yeah, I don't see how to see things differently. Um you have uh uh it very few. I mean, uh Schneider Schneider came out with an interview. Um, the church continue cannot continue into further confusion. Um uh let's see. Let me let me skip that. Okay, so uh Schneider said we cannot continue as a church to go further into confusion, he warned. Petitioning Pope Leo to perform a clarifying action to strengthen the entire church and faith. Um, I don't see this happening, guys. And um let's are there any good questions in this? Um sorry, I should have probably read through this beforehand. I just saw you put an interview out. Um would you say uh what do you say are the most pressing needs in the church today? I would say the most pressing need is that the Pope should strengthen the entire church in faith, which is his first task. One of the main tasks of a pope, which God himself gave to Peter and his successors. It is evident to all that the life of the church is immersed in an unprecedented confusion of faith regarding faith, morals, and liturgy. The church is really immersed in a kind of dust or mist of confusion. See, I don't agree with that. I think that like the faithful know the faith. I think what's in confusion is this hierarchy.

SPEAKER_08: 21:18

I mean, the faithful clearly clearly doesn't know the faith, though. When you have 90% of them supporting contraception, well, that yeah, I don't even consider those faithful. Well, I mean, you can't just write off 90% of the church, yes, like like that. That is the hierarchy's job, right? To save their souls. So I think now you're saying that is what the hierarchy needs to do is save the souls of the 90% of confirmed Catholics who who don't follow the faith at all. Yeah, but I I do understand what you mean, yes.

SPEAKER_07: 21:52

For those of us who try to live faithfully, yeah, like we we know what the church teaches. It's not like the the it's not so much it's not so much a confusion about the faith as it is a confusion of who the hell are these men that have taken over the church? Yeah, like what is going on? Like we have had a complete takeover of the church, but you look, we always had bad actors in the church. You always had that throughout the entire history of the church, but what has happened now is unprecedented. Well, I mean, if 80% of the hierarchy was Aryan, like yeah, I guess it's just because of the the level of the top that we're talking about, but it was I mean, it it is just so freaking confusing right now, man. Yeah, and and it's not so much that you know, yeah, that I guess that I guess I guess Schneider's right, you know. Um but that everybody's making this about it's just liturgy, it's not just liturgy, man. I really think the ecumenism thing is so bad right now, so bad right now. Like ecumenism and the open borders stuff, all of it is just it is going to be the thing that swallows up the church completely. And I'm I'm just going back and thinking about Christ's words, like when he outlike, sorry, guys. It's gonna be one of those shows I haven't slept much, but have um when I when when the son of man returns, will he find any faith left on earth? Because it seems like what we're going through is the great apostasy right now. It's so bad, and then all the stuff happening in the world on top of that, watching nations feel like they're crumbling around us. I don't know. Um so all right, so for Schneider wants fiducia supplicans. Um yeah, he's gonna he's gonna go back to those main things. I I don't I haven't really heard any of the hierarchy talk about immigration, though. Like any any of them.

SPEAKER_08: 24:03

Because it's a I mean they really shouldn't. Right? Like they shouldn't interfere with cutting policies. Well, it's it's a it's a it's a prudential thing of you know of the the temporal sword, right? They they can lay out the principles and the morals and things like that.

SPEAKER_07: 24:30

I don't know, Rob. I think I think Leo coming out and putting that religious freedom statement out the other day again is well that's that's not a that's not a prudential statement about you know the temporal sphere. No, well, what I'm saying is while all of this immigration is going on, he puts out a statement on religious freedom. Like like the Pope should be warning our leaders to remember Christ as king, of course. But do not like this is what the Pope and the Bishop should be exhort should should be exhorting world leaders to do. You don't have to interfere in the temporal issues of who they allow in the country, but you should be telling them keep your countries Christian, remember to keep Christ as king, because allowing these foreign people to come in our nations and I I don't I don't know what they're thinking. It's it's a way bigger deal than the liturgy.

SPEAKER_08: 25:24

They don't care, they don't believe Christ is king, they don't care about Christian nations, they don't they don't believe any of that, you know. It's this is this is like I'm not talking about anyone specifically, I'm not making any declarations or accusations against anyone specifically. I'm talking about the hierarchy in general, and anyone who who sits there and doesn't believe that 80% of the hierarchy doesn't actually believe in the Catholic faith, you're delusional.

SPEAKER_07: 25:54

It's just that when like when I saw the thing in um in London, it to me it was just a pagan celebration happening in London all over the place. And former formerly Christian nations celeb like all this talk of like Christian nationalism going on and stuff, it's in it's an important conversation, even like the idea that the nations have crisis came. This is the problem with the declarations on religious freedom. It's that like religious freedom should be tolerated in a country where you have uh, you know, it's not an explicitly Christian country, you can tolerate other religions, but the way things are happening right now, it's being foisted upon us as if all of these things are equal. And as that's going on in our countries, the Vatican is going about this crazy ecumenical project trying to normalize all of it. And then Leo last week had that statement that he was talking about how how when immigrants come in, they don't need to integrate, they don't need to assimilate, they can keep their culture when they come in. They don't need if they're coming into Italy, they don't need to become Italian. Yeah, it's funny how backwards he he has it.

SPEAKER_08: 27:15

Like I agree a person, like yes, people should keep their cultures and their nations. That's why immigration is bad. You know what I mean? Like it's the like, why can the immigrant keep their culture, language, a nation, but yet we must give up ours to make it a melting pot.

SPEAKER_07: 27:37

Um, Kevin reached out to me about this. Um, um, well, I I told Kevin I have to think about like how how we would do that because I the thing is it I would say if it's about some aspect of learning about the faith, sure. Yeah, like it's not gonna be a discussion on set of accontism. On set of acontism, yeah. No, I'm not I don't want to do that. The thing is, look, it like this the settes are have been like harassing me lately because because I went off on the on uh uh uh the rundown the other night. But the thing is, even even if they're right, it still matters what is happening. Like the things we're talking about still matter to them just as much as it matters to us, because the even if Leo is not a valid pope, whether he is or isn't, it's irrelevant because the world thinks the man sitting there is the pope. So it's like what whether he's whether you guys are right or not is irrelevant in the eyes of the world, the world sees him as the bishop of Rome, and what the bishop of Rome does is important. Um, I see if somebody harassed harasses you, that doesn't count. It's just the the whole the whole thing, it just matters to you guys. It's the reason you guys care so much that trad still say Leo is a valid pope, just as much as we are concerned with what this man is doing in that seat, it matters to all of us because the the the hierarchy that is there, whether whether it's valid or not, is presenting itself as the Catholic Church. And when the Catholic Church changes a teaching, or if it softens its approach on a teaching, or if it starts exhorting the world to open its borders, like these things matter whether he's valid or not. So to me, it's an irrelevant question because it's not something I'm ever gonna be able to prove. It's a good theory. I don't know, it's just uh we have Maudsley on Saturday.

SPEAKER_08: 29:40

Yeah, it won't be a live YouTube show on Saturday, it will be live on locals. So everyone make sure you go over to our our locals and join locals. Um, but we will put then any safe clips up on YouTube.

SPEAKER_07: 29:52

The um, because all of this does have to do with what we're gonna talk to Maudsley about. It just does all of it, it's all Connected because what is happening right now, even with Trump coming in and Palantir Palantir, and all of like they're setting up a system right now, man. All of this they're causing chaos, and there's gonna be some kind of event, and it's like we are leading and marching our way towards something right now. And I mean, I can just feel it in my freaking bones that something scary is coming. It's it's just the the things are so fractured uh amongst all of us, amongst Catholics, amongst just your just just your tip like your everyday American who who's arguing with each other constantly. All of it is getting it's getting pretty pretty crazy out there, man. Like I I had to actually turn social media off for a couple of days because it was like I've been barely popping in. Just it's just it was like overwhelming to me trying to pay attention to work and check that stuff out. And I missed a lot. I don't know. Yeah, trading was getting boring. Yeah, it will be available on locals for sure. Um, yeah, the uh Mawsley interview will definitely be available the full thing on locals right away.

SPEAKER_08: 31:15

The audio, the full audio will make it out eventually, not on Saturday, probably Monday, Tuesday. But we just don't we can't trust YouTube with all of it.

SPEAKER_07: 31:25

I don't I just don't know where the conversation is going to go. And um, I don't want to be like I don't want to not say something because we're on YouTube. I'd rather just be able to have the conversation we're gonna have and then see what can whatever we can put on YouTube, we will. And the full thing will be up on local. So if you're a locals member, you'll see the full interview. We'll put it on locals live Saturday. So if you guys want to watch it, it's it's 9 a.m. Eastern on Saturday, we're gonna have uh Father Maudsley on. But yeah, all of this just I don't know, because I mean I I've never seen an administration like the Trump administration when it comes to Israel. Like it just seems like every other day there's another member of the cabinet going and kissing that wall.

SPEAKER_08: 32:11

I I think I think previous administrations were, but not recently. Like I think, I think probably I don't know.

SPEAKER_07: 32:26

Trump was supposed to come in, he was supposed to end the war in Ukraine right away. Yeah, and it feels like all we hear about is another member of a cabinet member going to Israel, Israel's buying TikTok, israel Israel is all we hear about. Like, I don't you you get to a point where you don't want to freaking talk about Israel anymore, but it's everywhere, all you see, and I don't know if it's my algorithm or what, but it's just everywhere.

SPEAKER_08: 32:52

And I mean that that's another thing, like it's hard to know how much of the issues we see and and things really are real. I mean, now obviously immigration is because we feel that like in our daily lives, not just online, like we see the prices of things, we see the cost of housing and and things like that. Um, but you know, like like uh as far as the influence of Israel, you you know, you don't necessarily see or feel that in your daily life outside of the internet, so it's hard to say what what the algorithm is pushing and what's not.

SPEAKER_07: 33:28

And the algorithm is weird now, though. Like, I I don't see the same people, like you had that viral tweet. If you didn't text that to me, I'd have never seen it.

SPEAKER_08: 33:37

And then I I've had a few people say that people who I interact with on Twitter daily.

SPEAKER_07: 33:41

I did not retweeted it, and people were like, bro, Rob has a viral tweet, and it doesn't come across my feet. Like, what's happening in the algorithm is very strange right now. And I'm not seeing people I always see. I actually changed it over to the um people I follow specifically because I was the for you tab is just the things that they're showing now, man. I don't I don't know. It's it's they are feeding us rage bait over and over, and it got it got me that's why my tweet blew up right because it was a rage tweet, right? So it went it went haywire. That and that's all we're getting now are the tweets that piss people up. I'm all I see are videos of black people doing crazy stuff. It's like they're trying to make me hate, hate, they're trying to make me racist and anti-Semitic, and they're trying to make me see everything with like it's just all they're trying to do is enrage all of us. Um well, bring your tweet up because it uh really did look like an image it looked like the lake of fire, it looked like an image of hell.

SPEAKER_08: 34:56

So I'll just I'll bring up the video itself. Bob, you said they're trying to make you racist? Taffy's gonna have fun with oh videos that I cannot share.

SPEAKER_07: 35:12

Okay, so somebody's prone to it already to be getting fed the stuff I'm getting fed is not good. I'm just telling you.

SPEAKER_08: 35:20

Um, so it said Hinduism is the most aesthetic religion, period. Does that not look like the lake of fire? I mean, it it just and that's what I tweeted. I said it literally looks like hell on earth. What what do you add on that? Uh let me go hold on.

SPEAKER_07: 35:48

Yeah, bring your tweet up. I want to see yours.

SPEAKER_08: 35:50

4.5 million views.

SPEAKER_07: 35:52

Are you gonna beat me? My record is five million. That thing's gonna pass by.

SPEAKER_08: 35:56

Well, and so like I I was watching it catch up to Kale's ball cap tweet. Yeah, like Kale's ball cap tweet only got like 2,000 likes with 3.8 million views. I'm at 174,000 likes. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07: 36:13

It just it just the the thing is Twitter is run by Indian bot farms, like there's so many Indian bots on Twitter, and that tweet got to the Indian bot, and they were enraged by it.

SPEAKER_08: 36:27

The number of replies from accounts that look like they're white guys named John Smith that reply in Hindi is incredible.

SPEAKER_07: 36:36

It's so funny because that no, like every all right. So, first off, Rob's been getting a ton of death threats, right? Yep, but every every single American that saw that said this. Wait, said I don't know if it looks like somebody said, Can you imagine the smell? Like, that's all everybody can you imagine the smell, yeah.

SPEAKER_08: 36:55

Like, oh man, Jim says Ant's gonna report the tweet so it doesn't be as well. I'm famous in India. I'm also uh it's probably not safe for me to travel there. It's um did you see who uh wouldn't curse Vishnu online this week?

SPEAKER_07: 37:15

Yeah, modern Boethius, right? Well, was look the thing is we the everybody gets on him, but you guys have to contend with something. He's just repeating stuff the Vatican releases, man. And it's true. Look, this is kind of the stuff that that frustrates me with like the Pope splainers who who aren't like Boethi, like like modern Boetheists and Pope Respecter, those guys are towing the Vatican line, they're kind of basic. Whereas there were a lot of guys who were Pope's planers but were like, no, no, no, we can't, you know, like they're not actually for ecumenism, but they defend the Pope because they come into the Catholic faith and the Catholic Church, and that it's like the noble thing to do is to defend the Pope. But but deep down, if you question them on this stuff, they're like, Oh, they get uneasy about it, you know? And like some of this, some of the stuff coming from some of the stuff coming from from Rome is just so bizarre.

SPEAKER_08: 38:19

Do we want to go over the uh the Parallel stuff of uh yeah, actually, absolutely, yes.

SPEAKER_07: 38:25

We have to touch on Parallel before we go over to locals. So, yeah, we'll do we'll do Parallelin. Parallel, I mean it it's I I almost don't know what to say to it. It's evil.

SPEAKER_08: 38:42

Like this is evil what he said. So uh speaking at the aid to the church and need needs religious freedom report, what a name. Um needs religious freedom report, right? Says that the violence against Christians in Nigeria is not a religious conflict of Muslim against Christians, but rather more a social one. For example, disputes between herders and farmers. We should all also recognize that many Muslims in Nigeria are themselves victims of this same intolerance, adding there are extremist groups that make no distinctions in pursuing their goals, they use violence against anyone they see as an opponent.

SPEAKER_07: 39:23

So this is this is kind of what I'm talking about, right? This isn't this isn't it's Marxism naive, or this isn't this isn't just you know like that is pure evil. Like you're seeing Christians being slaughtered. Now that they're not just being slaughtered, it's like become Muslim or we kill you, and they they murder the men and they enslave the women, and they they do that in a church, like in a period of the church.

SPEAKER_08: 39:52

And they specifically go to to mass to do this, like and they will kidnap seminarians and priests and try to ransom them.

SPEAKER_07: 40:00

It's like how how the how the how the a pre-conciliar church would have called a crusade. There would have been a crusade called to save our Christian brothers in Nigeria. Um bro, I'm a farmer, I'm not getting in any disputes with her. Um all right, so what about this? Yeah, I heard a priest from Nigeria agreeing with Parallel and it's not only Christians who are victims, I also heard two or three other Nigerian priests disagreeing with him too. So but yes, like dismissing, dismissing the just completely dismissing the these poor people's plight is just well.

SPEAKER_08: 40:52

The thing is, if if you he says social, right? He says it's it's more a social one, but that's not what he's saying. He says disputes between herders and farmers, he's really talking economics, he's he's coming at it from a Marxist worldview, you know, the the the bourgeoisie versus the the kulaks on the farms and and things like that. So it he's just a Marxist, he's not a Catholic.

SPEAKER_07: 41:16

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_08: 41:18

I I don't I but you're right, because he's the same person that made the deal with the Communist Party in China. You so yeah, but I forgot about that. He really is a Marxist at heart.

SPEAKER_07: 41:32

Yeah, this stuff. I don't know. Look, I didn't I didn't mean to be just have this be a black pill episode. I'm just like the past week has been rough for me. Do you know who Eric Prince is? Um, no.

SPEAKER_08: 41:43

So he he's the founder of Blackwater, the uh oh yes, I did see that. Yes, the um the private military company. So you literally have a billionaire who founded his own little army going ask saying the Vatican, you fund this, and I'll give you an army to to protect Christians. You know, the best they come up can come up with is no, it's herders versus farmers.

SPEAKER_07: 42:06

I I don't know. I don't know what happens, man. I I just I see all of this escalating. I see everything, everything. It's going to get crazier and crazier, and it's gonna happen faster and faster, and the world is gonna get darker. Um, I don't see any of it improving. I think it's going to get well, I think the situation in the church is going to get far worse.

SPEAKER_08: 42:30

Um, I mean, the situation in our country is gonna melt down in about 10 days.

SPEAKER_07: 42:38

Oh, if the if they don't get the government over GBT and stuff, yeah. You're gonna have people robbing everything.

SPEAKER_08: 42:44

It's gonna be You're not gonna be the only one, the algorithms turning racist if that happens.

SPEAKER_07: 42:51

It's just it's just things are getting, I don't know. This was uh I'll try to come up with something better for us to talk about tomorrow night. But I I just had to because this has all been on my mind for the past couple of days when I'm watching these videos in Dublin and I'm watching the Diwali stuff, and I'm just like, what the hell is happening right now?

SPEAKER_08: 43:16

Uh that's Black Rock. Black Rock is the monopoly, is the private equity firm buying houses. Blackwater is the military company that got in trouble in Iraq.

SPEAKER_07: 43:27

Yeah, I'm um yeah, we'll well, we're gonna go over to locals and uh we'll figure out what we're gonna talk about over there. But yeah, I actually have two things I want to talk about on locals. Uh that are that are a little, I mean, they're they're not happier or anything, but we'll go over there and we'll talk about it. But uh tomorrow I will try to try to find something better for tomorrow night. Tomorrow problem is um I have uh CPR training tomorrow at 5 p.m. in the city, and I don't know how long it runs.

SPEAKER_08: 44:01

I'm so glad for all of your employees that they no longer do the rescue breathing portion of it. Yeah, they don't.

SPEAKER_07: 44:12

You just basically do chest compressions now. Yeah, kind of interesting. Um, but all right, so we are size.

SPEAKER_08: 44:18

Anthony says the same news, but also Jews. Yes, pretty well.

SPEAKER_07: 44:23

No, I actually I I there's um uh Chris Christopher Hale uh brought up an article from um uh uh Donahue. Uh uh who's the who's the uh the the Catholic Defense League? Bill Donahue. Bill Donahue, right? Bill Donahue in 2012 wrote an article saying that that uh liberals should leave the church there, you know, and it's just kind of funny how the tables have turned. It was kind of kind of interesting to see the switch. Uh and then uh there's also but then linked to that is a Joe Heshmeier video of him saying that liberal Catholicism is dead, which I agree with, and I think it's going to add to I mean, I guess we can do the Heshmeier video here.

SPEAKER_08: 45:11

Okay, that's interesting. That gives me that gives me time to upload a video for the beginning of locals here. Okay, the Heshmeier. Let me look for it here.

SPEAKER_07: 45:20

Yeah, wait, where'd Bobby's comment? If Anthony does CPR for more than a minute, he'll end up needing it. CPR is hard. Yeah, it really is. Well, the thing is to do it properly, you're gonna basically break someone's ribs. Yep.

SPEAKER_05: 45:40

Liberal Catholicism, at least in terms of the priesthood, is spiritually barren. In fact, dead. It simply has not reproduced. Why? Because you can't just blame the bishops. It isn't as if the bishops are the radical conservatives. Rather, they're ordaining men who, in many cases, are more conservative and more traditional than they are. So, what's driving this, and more specifically, what's driving the failure of liberal Catholicism to produce priests? I would suggest two things. Number one, if you accept liberal Catholic theses like Gary Willis's claim that the priesthood is not of apostolic or Christ's origins, but is rather an innovation, an addition to Christianity, why become a priest? If you don't believe in the priesthood, don't be a priest. But even more broadly, we could say if your view of the priesthood is essentially that he's a community organizer and a social justice activist, you don't need to go to seminary for years to do that. You don't need to get ordained, you don't need to be accountable to a bishop or a religious superior, and you certainly don't need to be celibate. Second, what I've been calling this rightward shift has been both in theology but also in politics. So, what is that going to mean for the future of the church in America? What are you going to hear from the USCCB and from the pulpit on topics like abortion, on immigration, on just war? I'm struck by this question. What will we have gained? And what, if anything, will we have lost? I'm actually very interested in your thoughts on that. I'd love to hear how you foresee that.

SPEAKER_07: 47:00

I want to give you my thoughts, Joe. My thoughts are that yes, there are so you do have because we hear read articles like this all the time. Like the guys, the men that are joining seminary are pretty conservative, they're not trads, right? They're not trads, they're concerned, they're like JP2 kind of guys.

SPEAKER_08: 47:20

They're not even conservative in they're they're orthodox, orthodox in their in their faith, right?

SPEAKER_07: 47:27

So they like they they believe the Catholic faith. And but the problem is that because you have no, we're probably gonna blackbill with this too. Just give us a minute. Because you have the power at the top, only elevating the devious ones to the points of power, it it becomes this like they only elevate the guys who are nefarious, and that's kind of the place we're at right now. So even if you have these conservative priests, now the other thing is the the the liberals who do join the priesthood, like guys like James Martin, they join to commit revolution, yeah. They don't join because they one could call it infiltration, yeah. Like they're joining to infiltrate and and be elevated. And look, you you you go back to the to the to the um abuse crisis, and not even not even for like the child abuse, like the the you go back to McCarrick. McCarrick, what he was doing, bringing the seminarians out to his beach house, feeling them out to see which ones he could have his way with. Now, the ones he could have his way with, you're the one getting fast tracked up. So they basically have this club where the homosexual men just bring up the other homosexual men, and those are the guys getting into the position. So you basically, every single person in power is either a homosexual or willing to turn a blind eye to it, and that's where we're at right now. So, yes, you do have a lot of conservative priests, and you you are so so that's what was kind of interesting about the Raymond Arroyo conversation with Frad, where Arroyo was like, you know, back in the 80s, it was mayhem down at the parish level, but you had this, you know, conservative as Pope. So you had, you know, these good encyclicals coming out from the Pope, but then at the parish level it was mayhem. Now there's kind of an inversion of that where you could have a very solid parish now, and you could have some very good priests now, but all the men at the top are just wicked, they're just wicked. And anytime, and and if they have a bishop who isn't wicked and he's good, he's gonna get Strickland. Like Strickland is now a verb. You're gonna get Strickland. Stricklanded, Stricklanded. Um so it's uh it it's not it's not it's not looking good, you know. And um, I saw there was a video of uh um what uh what's the what's the a bishop in San Francisco, uh Cordelione participated in uh a conference on marriage with an Orthodox uh priest, and there's a conversation with between them. There's a guy that Lila Rose had on his channel. I'm just amazed Anthony knew what a verb was.

SPEAKER_08: 50:23

I love how you misspelled new there, Brian.

SPEAKER_07: 50:26

Yeah, go ahead, make fun of me. Strickland or Pelled. Yeah, uh Strickland got off easy. He's lucky he didn't have any surgeries coming up. Oh, I mean, that's not even something to laugh about, but that's that's what happened to Pell. Like Pell.

SPEAKER_08: 50:45

If they can murder JP1, they can murder Pell.

SPEAKER_07: 50:48

Pell wrote that Damos memo, the Demos memo he sent out. Uh, then he got a lot of info about what was going on with the Vatican Bank. He needed he was not someone they wanted to contend with at the next conclave. I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_08: 51:06

Do you uh I mean I'm not even gonna say like I believe this, but uh do you think maybe Burke's little plea was an attempt to make sure he doesn't get belled? No, I think Burke because he was Demos too.

SPEAKER_07: 51:23

I know, but I think Burke I think Burke genuinely is is coming up on the end of his life and doesn't want to he doesn't want to go down as causing schism in the church, like especially if if he helped engineer Leo's ascendancy. I I just don't think he I think I I think he doesn't I think he wants to get face his maker saying I didn't cause any schism in your like he takes schism very seriously. Well that's why he's harsh on the SSPX. Yeah, take schism very seriously. I don't think it's cowardice, I I think it's confusing, is what I think. And he's a he's a he's a post-consiliar bishop. I I just these guys these guys came up after the council and they they they they love Vatican II, man. All of them. Well, all of them not Schneider, but he's not Schneider's the only one, but Sarah does. Sarah's a Sarah's uh hermenutic of continuity Benedict guy, yeah. Like this, yeah, this that too. The oh um the uh conservatives have this temperament, that's why they always lose.

SPEAKER_08: 52:40

Well, it's because for the most part, conservatives, even the modernist type in the hierarchy, are actually like decent men who try to be holy, yeah. So they're they're limited by that, they have morals. The the liberal leftists don't, you know, the ends justify the means to them, so they have an upper hand in almost every single scenario.

SPEAKER_07: 53:01

I do think look, so now that Strickland got Stricklanded, and uh and and um Schneider, like I think Schneider is like, I don't care, I don't care. Let them excommunicate me at this point.

SPEAKER_08: 53:16

Like, yeah, to him, it's like, what are you gonna do? Put me in a gulag.

SPEAKER_07: 53:19

Yeah, I think that I think he's just like at a point where he's like, I'm going to speak the truth. And Strickland, same thing. He's like, So, what can they do to me? What can they do to me?

SPEAKER_08: 53:28

They took my diocese away at this point, and he's just a little too cozy with some weird parts of the church, you know, charismatics and such.

SPEAKER_07: 53:42

I think he's just I think he's just tries to love those in his care. And I think a lot of people a lot of those people love him. And I I I think that he just wants to love those in his care and he wants to preach the truth. And it's just a it's just a really confusing time, man. And it's like anytime anybody brings this stuff up and goes, look at who Leo's, look at who Leo's promoting, you're a schismatic, you're a cent of a contest. It's like I don't know what to tell you guys, man. Like, I'm not blind, I see what's happening, and this is this is happening. And to pretend otherwise is almost like complicit complicity in it at this point. I don't know. Um I don't know. It's it's scary stuff what we're talking about. We're talking about a complete and total takeover of the Catholic Church by by wicked men. Like that's what we're talking. I mean, it's been going on since the council, it has been going on like the council was the original revolution, but we're at a point now where it's just it's just been completely taken over, and there's it's going to seem like all hope is lost. Hey Joe, Joe Diodotti. OG.

SPEAKER_08: 54:59

It has been a while since I've seen him in here.

SPEAKER_07: 55:01

Yeah, in a live chat. So all right, yeah. I mean, look, it's kind of hard to not.

SPEAKER_08: 55:10

We did turn we did turn the the Heshmire thing into a black bell.

SPEAKER_07: 55:14

Yeah, I'm look, I don't I it's one of those nights. I'm just black belling. I don't know. It's a freaking Elon Musk, his algorithm. I don't know what he did to it, but all I see is man, they are really trying to start a race war in this country.

SPEAKER_08: 55:32

That's all I'm gonna say. All I'm saying is about 10 days, you better be ready to blow the bridges to Long Island.

SPEAKER_07: 55:39

All I see are black people doing wild stuff, man. We are talking a level of fatigue.

SPEAKER_08: 55:47

Well, for for the record, he's talking about his Twitter algorithm.

SPEAKER_07: 55:51

Yes, like, but I don't I if it's in mine, it's in everybody's. I don't care. Like the level of fatigue is hitting an all-time high, man. Even like you you watched the crowder conversation at the uh at the barber shop. Yeah, it's just I don't know, man. It's it's just it's just they are trying to amp up some major hostilities inside our country, like they want you to hate your neighbor, they want you to hate, and the thing is, I am I'm actually on the streets and I have very good interactions with black people, like I really do. I have very good interactions with black people. If you all want to hear a story from Charlotte, you'll have to come over to locals because I can't see the story on here. Yeah, yeah. Um, I wonder how many of the early Roman mod martyrs were black pillars. Yeah, uh I yeah, you know what? I don't I'm not really it's not that I'm black pilling in the sense that like I I know this is all necessary. I'm an accelerationist, like I want this to happen. I really do. I I like this has to happen. So as much as I'm just like trying to assess the situation, and but the reality is this thing needs to come down, like this thing, this thing needs to come down.

SPEAKER_08: 57:10

What you're saying is in the short term, you don't see any uh any light at the end of the tunnel coming up quick.

SPEAKER_07: 57:17

No, I'm a long-term optimist, a short-term pessimist, I guess.

SPEAKER_08: 57:20

Long-term optimist, you think the world is ending.

SPEAKER_07: 57:23

That's a good thing, isn't it? I'm just saying there's no doesn't Christ come at the end.

SPEAKER_08: 57:31

I mean, I don't know if I would call that like I don't know. Um I'm seeing so many Sicilian videos too. Yeah, same thing.

SPEAKER_07: 57:45

So the the yeah, I don't I look. Um I honestly no, yeah. You kind of you want your family, it's man. I think the living will envy the dead. That's how bad it's gonna get. Like in some places, not everywhere. I think in some places it's going to be so bad that the living will envy the dead. I think Europe, Europe, it's going to be so bad that the former cr formerly Christian nations in Europe are going to envy the dead because they are going to be chastised by Islam in a way it's going to be biblical. It's going to be the Assyrians coming in. It's going to it's going to be biblical. It's going to be the Romans destroying the temple type stuff. Yep. That's just that's just how I see it. I I don't I I'm they're they're um essaying their children and letting them go, let them get letting them get away with it. Like, how do you how does that work? In fact, they're arresting the people who protest who protest against it. It's uh it's interesting because like when Tim Pool talked about this today, but when we saw the BLM riots, we were like, people, these people are animals, how could you destroy your own city? But when I watched the riots in Dublin, I was like, good. Like they they let this animal do that to a girl and get away with it, like your city should should burn down. The people in control need to need to so it really is just where your line is, where where you've where you're like, I've had enough. So um, yeah, I I mean don't watch the Scorsese movie on it. I don't know if Anthony's read about him, but I know he watched silence. Well, the Scorsese movie is like the first 90 is the greatest Catholic film of all time, and the last 10 is the worst movie ever made. So um, all right, we we're at an hour. We're gonna head over to locals and we'll uh I don't know. We got we got that Fuentes clip where he's talking about the SSPX. I know it's old news, but it'd be interesting to break that down.

SPEAKER_08: 59:57

Fuentes and the SSPX, two subjects I Absolutely love to talk about.

SPEAKER_07: 1:00:02

Yeah, well, we'll do something. Either way. Alright, so we're gonna go to locals. We're only gonna do a half hour there, and then I'm jumping I'm gonna be on with my. We can rip on Lila. Yes, actually, that's what we're doing. Lila. We're doing Lila Rose. Lila Rose over on Locals. Because that woman. No, I actually have clips. Hold on.

SPEAKER_08: 1:00:24

I um I have a video. I'm gonna take us out with uh that um that uh the former vid editor that he no longer wants to be referred to by that name on our show. Yeah, never mind. You guys won't understand if you don't know who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_07: 1:00:44

Okay, so uh yeah, that you know what? That's all we're gonna. I'm gonna I got I got three clips from the Lila Rose podcast that I want to play. Lila Rose had uh basically a necromancer on her show. Uh a guy selling prophecy. It's like Simony stuff. It's insane what what what she anyway, that's what we're gonna do over on locals.

SPEAKER_08: 1:01:08

Hold on, let me let me upload this video.

SPEAKER_07: 1:01:10

So, yes, I'll be on Mike Pantile's show tonight with uh me, him, Fawaz, and myself will be there uh at 9 p.m. So if you guys wanna if you can't join us on locals, head over there at 9 p.m. and you'll see see me over there. Let me throw Rob on separately.

SPEAKER_08: 1:01:27

Yeah, I'll be on next month sometime. Let me throw the link to locals in here real quick while the video loads, and then I'll take us out.

SPEAKER_07: 1:01:40

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SPEAKER_02: 1:02:43

Can police help track down missing persons with tips from prayer groups? That's the question that Dana McCollum asked himself. Now he has incredible stories of how prayer teams help rescue and save the lives of missing people, and in some cases, help bring them back to life.

SPEAKER_06: 1:03:20

Would you change it?

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Is it a powerful good? And it seems fit. Bless you with this gift, you should use it. Who are you? Thank you. I'm scared.

SPEAKER_06: 1:03:34

For only a few thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:36

This Protestant will teach you to have the same gift. Did you see how clearly told me it? Not only can you see the future, I can change it.

SPEAKER_06: 1:03:48

Love the roses, the no deadbeat zone.

SPEAKER_02: 1:03:51

It's only a few grand. You should support our separated brethren. What are you, poor?

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:00

Sometimes I will hear the clock.

SPEAKER_07: 1:04:25

Bro. Did they catch that? Are you sure? Well wait, like I'm having trouble logging into uh locals. Hang on. Um all right, so I sent two clips. I don't know which one is which, but dude, when she when this guy says, Oh, they've raised people from the dead, it's I can't believe I had to sit through that ridiculous freaking episode for content. I like I just man was that awful.

SPEAKER_08: 1:04:54

Um did you just send them now? I just sent them okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 1:05:02

A shorter one and a longer one. I have to explain that to my son-in-law. Uh play the shorter one first. Let's see what that one is. I forgot. I mean, I sat through this ridiculous show, and I was just like, I was so angry at you for making me watch it. I was like, the things I do for this stupid show, man. If we you know what, if we don't play the clips, I'll be even more mad. So let's take training.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:26

And so we had about 120 people attending. We divided into 10 teams of 12, and I pulled posters off of uh missingchildren.org, uh, local posters. And um, and we all we did was we just prayed over them and asked the Lord for any intel about their situation. Well, I had some backstory information on some of these children that nobody else had that I had obtained from the website. No one knew we were going to do this exercise, so no one had that information available to them. And one of the groups actually got the name, the names of the people who abducted this child and the car, like the color of the car, the type of car. They got some really strategic intel.

SPEAKER_08: 1:06:20

They got the color of the car.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:21

And then I went to just this one team and I said, What it was a black car.

SPEAKER_08: 1:06:25

So helpful.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:26

Well, do you feel like this child is still alive or Joe Smith in a black car?

SPEAKER_07: 1:06:32

Listen to this. Wait till you see how crazy this gets.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:35

Um, because she'd been missing for two years. And um, so they're like, they prayed again. They're like, We feel like she's alive. What should we do? Uh like we we didn't know what we were doing, we were just experimenting. And so we prayed some very specific directives over, and then two days later, that child was found after two years. So we can't draw an exact correlation between our prayers and her rescue, except for the fact that she'd been missing for two years, and it seems at least highly quin coincidental, right? No, it doesn't that um that something happened. So there was a police officer in our church.

SPEAKER_07: 1:07:20

So, okay, so this guy goes, he goes, I I pulled these posters off and we prayed and we prayed, and someone someone guessed the guessed this information that was on the poster, but they didn't read the post. It's like like Long Island Medium type crap. Like like going and like it's like reading a room, you know what I mean? It's like uh maybe the car the car's blue, the car's black. Like this guy is selling the gift of prophecy. Except it's not that, but that's what he's making it. He's selling lessons in the gifts of prophecy. Someone goes, No, never mind. Just keep going. Yeah, asking the Lord for intel. It was the one above that. Um how often do they say they say suspect that a kid took the kid is always black? Um I'm seeing I'm seeing a black man. Damn it, he was right. No, when you're talking about kids getting kidnapped, there's always a white guy. You guys know that it's easy to profile.

SPEAKER_08: 1:08:29

It's like that uh that that tweet. It's um uh oh, I I don't even know how to explain it.

SPEAKER_07: 1:08:37

It's it's it's like it is it's not just divination, like what they're doing is almost like a seance, it's kind of bizarre. And I don't know, it was just like why why bring a guy like this on? I don't get what uh that's why money, it's always about money. Yeah, no. Uh uh Dr. Dr. Phil said uh Dr. Phil he sells divination and necromancy, but in corpo sales, yeah, in corpo speak. Um, yeah, white guys kidnap their kids and kill their wives. Uh play the other clip because black guys can't kill their wives, they don't have wives, they're not married, yeah. They're not married, and they don't know which kill their baby mom is plenty, I promise. They they kill their baby mama.

SPEAKER_08: 1:09:23

How can you kidnap your kids if you don't know which ones are yours?

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:26

How do they not understand it was bad whilst editing that she doesn't? I don't think so. Like Thursday's like keep bugging her day two of this, like, dude, she's never taking it, like she's woman can't be shamed something at all, like she can't be shamed into anything.

SPEAKER_08: 1:09:43

She did plus she doesn't understand that it's bad because she's not really Catholic, she's still an evangelical Protestant at all.

SPEAKER_07: 1:09:50

Yeah, she's she's an evangelical Protestant that accepts some other premises.

SPEAKER_08: 1:09:54

She just was realized that there was more money in the pro-life movement if she was Catholic, is probably what it comes down to.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:01

We've described like a lot of converts become Catholic and they're basically still just faith alone, but it's like faith alone or uh it's like faith alone, like uh like solar scriptura, except now it's solar scriptura plus the catechism, plus the plus the sacraments and stuff, like they like they it's but it's it's not really that it's like it's still faith alone, like it's still like a set of beliefs. It's still like okay, as long as I uh assert to the correct propositions, I'm Catholic now.

SPEAKER_08: 1:10:31

It's not it's not they don't live a Catholic life, yeah.

SPEAKER_07: 1:10:36

It's not like they live a thoroughly Catholic now. We're not talking about all converts at all, guys. We're most of our Yeah, no, no, no. I'm I'm I'm I'm saying like it's just look, it's a hard thing, even for cradle Catholics. If you're being catechized by that brand of apologetics, it's very easy to fall into just you know, like asserting to a certain set of propositions, and that makes you Catholic. Like that's all that's really required of you. It's like, okay, it's like faith alone plus confession, you know? Like I confess my sins, but like it's still kind of Protestantism. I don't know. I don't know. I probably I'm probably guilty of it myself, but do we want yeah? I was watching this one is this is the raising the guy from the dead thing.

SPEAKER_09: 1:11:26

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_08: 1:11:28

Like, do they not know who was literally who literally did that in the New Testament, where we get the term from where we get the term Simony from?

SPEAKER_07: 1:11:37

Simony is selling magus. Simon Magus. Simon Magus. And that's we he was trying to sell like gifts or or or he was trying to buy it. No, he was trying to buy it, right? Like he was like he was trying to Simon Magus was trying to buy spiritual gifts, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:00

Correct. Before you give up, before you give up, then I'll pray for you. So about 200 of them. Dude, don't ever pray for me, please. And um, so I laid hands on them and we just prayed a simple prayer of faith.

SPEAKER_08: 1:12:13

And like when someone says that on a Catholic show, it should instantly be like, Nope, sorry, you're we're done, you're off the show.

SPEAKER_07: 1:12:20

Like you have no authority to lay hands on someone and pray. Like it's just but charismatic Catholics do that stuff too. Like you ever see the you ever see the picture of Father Mark Goring with all the women holding their hands over Father Mark Goring praying over him? That sounds kind of weird, man. That's not Catholic at all. That's how you get demons.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:42

And the and the Lord was present, and there was a there was a sense of his confirming of of presence and power. But the next day where we come back, and two two of these guys we prayed for had a resurrection.

SPEAKER_08: 1:13:00

What he's claiming they brought two people back to life.

SPEAKER_07: 1:13:07

Yeah, and then they're in Russia though. Just wait. Just wait. Just watch.

SPEAKER_08: 1:13:14

You know, I know I'm the one who told you about these, but I definitely did not watch a second of this stuff. I know you didn't.

SPEAKER_07: 1:13:21

I know I look Rob has the back end stuff. I am in charge of content, so he tells me, like, we should discuss Lila Rose. It's like, damn it, I gotta watch this stupid show. But he doesn't have time to watch it. I do like I can I'm in the car for hours, and it's like, all right, I guess I'll put this stupid thing on and screen record right now. Oh but I but I try to find, but like I had I tried to look on her her clips, like it shows like what they're talking about. And when I saw I was like, let me jump to that one because I tried sitting through 40 minutes of the intro, and I was just so bored. It was such a 40 minutes of the intro, like the first it's a three-hour conversation, dude. Like the first 35 minutes I listened to just to see if I could find anything good, and I'm like, I can't just listen to this one.

SPEAKER_08: 1:14:07

We're asking our audience to watch four and a half minutes, and I'm like, Oh, that's probably too much.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:11

That her listen, her videos, some of them get 400,000 views, dude. Like, she's oh, she gets insane because she has a woman's Protestant audience, and she's a woman, she has a Protestant audience. She's Lila Rose, head of you know the pro-life movement.

SPEAKER_08: 1:14:32

She's I suppose when you put what what is it, three or four million dollars in a podcast production a year.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:38

You can I wonder how much of that is AdSense, AdSense on YouTube. Like she could be putting thousands of dollars of AdSense into these videos, and it wouldn't even wouldn't even affect it, just gives her a bigger profile, you know.

SPEAKER_08: 1:14:51

Yeah, it's true. I mean, if we put in 200 bucks and get 20,000, yeah, put in 2,000 and you get 200,000.

SPEAKER_07: 1:14:58

Yeah, that's that's a good point. Like she could be ad sense because they're all they're none of them alive, they're all videos, right? So she could be literally ad sensing everything she puts out, and that's why she's getting 400,000 views on these.

SPEAKER_08: 1:15:15

And as a nonprofit, she doesn't with running on donations, she's doesn't care if the YouTube part is actually losing money, yeah, because that's just a tax-free expense she gets to write off.

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:29

It's a tax-free expense, she gets to write off, and it's how she raises her profile to get more donations, right?

SPEAKER_08: 1:15:34

Exactly.

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:40

Yeah, dude, it made her famous. It made her famous. She's famous, she's like she's famous because of this. She dumped millions into this podcast.

SPEAKER_08: 1:15:50

The studio dumps millions into it every single year.

SPEAKER_07: 1:15:54

Every year, she dumps millions into it because it makes her a celebrity.

SPEAKER_08: 1:16:00

Yeah, weird. Okay, here we go. More resurrections.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:04

Oh, one of them is on the way home.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:06

Wait a minute. Yeah, they had died the night before.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:10

No, no, no. They had prayed for somebody. Okay, so yeah, we prayed the night before.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:16

On the way home from that meeting, yes, there's a car accident. Traffic's backed up.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:22

He gets out of his car, he walks up to the EMTs or whatever it is in Russia and says, I'm a I'm a pastor, priest. Um, can I pray? Is it is there anything you need? And they said, Well, you can give last rights because he's dead. And he said, Okay, I'll do that. And he's walking over to do it, and he goes, Oh no.

SPEAKER_07: 1:16:44

You can give last rights because he's dead. Do you give a dead person last rights?

SPEAKER_08: 1:16:50

Um you give a dead person last rights. So a lot of priests will give conditional last rights um if the body is still warm because you don't always know, you know, because death theologically is the separation of body and soul. So, you know, without a if you don't have a heartbeat, physiologically, you might say they're dead. Yeah, but if you bring life, right, was that soul gone and then comes back? No, so a lot of priests will give last rites, um, well, at least while the body's still warm, usually. Okay. But is he saying they have Orthodox or Catholic priests on their prayer teams? Because no crazy Protestant pastor actually.

SPEAKER_07: 1:17:35

I think the whole story's made up, dude. I honestly think the whole story's made up. You're right. I think the whole story's made up.

SPEAKER_08: 1:17:41

Because uh, I don't even know what I don't think the Orthodox calls call them last. I don't know what they call it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:49

Because he was he still wasn't even thinking about it, he was just like getting ready to give last rites. But as he's walking over, he goes, I just prayed, I just said I'd pray for a hundred dead people, and here's one like now. And I didn't train him how to do it, I just we just because it was at the point of the meeting. Well, that's what the EMT said. Yeah, he's like on the ground sent him to do last rites. Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:17

So then what happened?

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:18

So he went over and just prayed a simple prayer, and the guy coughed and stood up and stood up, stood up, totally healed, totally and and another one was taking a train ride home.

SPEAKER_07: 1:18:34

Totally healed, it's in Russia. There's no way to verify this story at all.

SPEAKER_08: 1:18:40

Like, how can you not only spend hours recording this, but then I actually think you should put this online as a Catholic?

SPEAKER_07: 1:18:47

Dude, the whole show is this. This was the whole show. Just him telling these outlandish stories that cannot be verified. They're like these.

SPEAKER_08: 1:18:55

Well, we don't really know if we're doing anything, but like we could be possibly, but by my book, some stupid idiotic stuff on this channel, and none of it comes remotely close to this, dude.

SPEAKER_07: 1:19:09

This guy is associated with what Bethel Church or something. Um they um, I mean it's very prosperity gospel stuff, like it's not even authentic Protestantism, like it's just nuts.

SPEAKER_08: 1:19:22

Um why are they putting scarves on us in the chat? I don't know.

SPEAKER_07: 1:19:29

Yeah, the guy was very strange, but I don't I don't know, man. I I think when you get caught up in that ecumenical Protestant Catholic uh pro-life movement stuff, like you're exposed to things that you always downplay your Catholicism for the for the um the what would you call it? Uh sentimental sentimentality, uh like sentimental unity that's meaningless. It's sentimental unity that doesn't mean anything, it's just uh well well, we all love Jesus, so let's just not talk about anything that divides us. And that's what the Vatican's doing, and that and you can't even look, this is this is Vatican II Catholicism. So yeah, I mean it's no different from King Charles going to the Vatican and him getting I don't know, like uh or a non-Catholic receiving communion, and it's just happening all the time. Um I wish I had greater than that that guy was saved by faith alone. Oh man. Any press is good press for these people. It's white girl autumn. Yeah, it's just that that whole like Protestant Catholic ecumenical world is strange. It's very strange. It is um his evidence for why the guy was definitely dead was because an EMT asked the pastor to give him less rights. Yeah, that's the thing. They want us to be united with the Anglicans, but that means we have to become like the Anglicans. Like we have to ordain women and crap like that. It's just silliness. Um no, we're not joining Pelican. I thought everybody knew that.

SPEAKER_08: 1:21:25

I thought so too. We've announced it literally multiple times. I mean, unless they still have some of our crap on their website without realizing it.

SPEAKER_07: 1:21:34

Um yeah, when is Lila buying a private jet, like a like a uh mega church pastor? I mean, she's she goes to these conferences, like the she goes to the Christian pastors' conferences and stuff, and she speaks at them. So um, no, I think we're gonna actually wrap this one up because I have to pee really bad before I go on with Mike. And I don't think I have it in me to make it through the whole Nick video. Yeah, that'd be another 20-30 minutes of then you'd have to do it. Yeah, it's open in another half hour because I um uh I looked at the website and it looks kind of boring. What is the scoop of Pelican? I thought you guys were gonna be uh trading, probably. Trad ink. Um, it just didn't, it wasn't a good fit for us, that's all. Like um, I don't know. Rob Rob and I kind of like doing what we do. And it was like it would have required a lot of obligations on our part. Uh oh, yeah, that honestly, I I'm hoping that Mike lets me talk about the Will Nolan thing on his show tonight, uh Majorion, because I mean he's very good friends with him, and he's like I think he's like his godfather or something. Will is Mike's like something with like he helped him come into the church. So I don't know if Mike will be willing to go there, but I think it's I think it's worth talking about his tweet.

SPEAKER_08: 1:23:07

Leela didn't take those stinking pea breaks.

SPEAKER_07: 1:23:11

They wanted Anthony to wear a dress shirt, so he stormed out. Um yeah, you did, but I think I like I think Will had some I think you Will was aiming to like he worded it bad. I think he was just trying to encourage like women to make sure they have healthy sex lives within their marriage, but he worded it terribly, but I don't know. I didn't really like read it thoroughly. Like he worded it as if like having sex in your marriage will help will is the only thing that will keep you from porn or something. It's like that's ridiculous. Like, you need to if you like if you're a porn addict and getting married is not gonna change that, you're gonna be addicted to porn. Yeah, but there is something to a healthy sex life.

SPEAKER_08: 1:23:54

Matter of fact, if anything, if you're a porn addict, your wife probably like like maybe should withhold sex.

SPEAKER_07: 1:24:03

Yeah, obviously, maybe I would I would say uh uh a healthy sex life isn't so much a defeat for porn, it's more just healthy for your marriage, it's just part of being married, super, super healthy for your marriage, like your relationship it's very important to your relationship, and when your relationship's healthy, you you you you will have a much easier time of keeping custody of the eyes when you're happy at home and stuff like it. If you're if you're unhappy in that area, like you'll it's not that yeah, like you should still have self-control, but I could I would imagine if you're furious all the time because your wife's withholding it from you, like I could see being so angry at her, you go screw her. I'm doing that, you know, and then blaming her for it. I could see that. I'm not saying it's justified, but um most of the time the porn addicts are the ones withholding sex, very true. Yeah, I do have like friends that I work with that haven't slept with their wives in a year because they'd rather.

SPEAKER_08: 1:25:05

Yeah, I just don't think it maybe obviously I don't know the intimate details of everyone's marriages. I just can't imagine it's that big of a problem. Not the porn part, obviously, that is. I mean, like the withholding of the marital act.

SPEAKER_07: 1:25:19

Oh, dude, it is a it is a major problem in a lot of people. Seriously. Oh, dude, you have no idea. It's like there are so many, I know so many marriages where like once they're married, the wife just cares about the kids, and the husband's kind of so the husband goes to work, he feels like an ATM, the wife feels like all he wants is sex, and they just it just causes okay.

SPEAKER_08: 1:25:45

But I guess I should say I can't imagine it's that big of an issue in like meeting marriages of like actual like faithful Catholics.

SPEAKER_07: 1:25:56

I don't know. I mean, I don't know, but I yeah, dude, you'd be surprised, man. Women women don't care about it as much as men. So it's I I I think it's something a lot of modern men deal with. I just do. I I just think it's something it's a major problem in a lot of people's marriages. So um yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna try and bring it up on mic show because I would like to talk about it. Um I have I put a clip of like a divorce, a female divorce lawyer talking about um how stay-at-home moms are the most vindictive in divorce, and how that is actually the most common people that get divorced. The stay-at-home mom, like the traditional family where the husband goes to work and the mom stays at home, they get divorced at a higher rate than working women, and it's typically because like female as feminism, their their social media algorithm, things like that, other women encouraging them, so all the same reasons, yeah. When but it also devastates the two of them because they can't really afford to split they're splitting, yeah, they're splitting a single income at that point. Where when the wife works and the husband works, like if you split up, it's like, all right, well, I have an income, you have an income. There's not, you know, so it's less less friction when you get divorced. But all right, let's wrap this up because I need a half hour between shows. I gotta pee so bad. Um, all right, we will see you guys tomorrow night. I'll try to find something more positive for tomorrow night. I just had some stuff I had to get off my mind tonight, so but all right. Uh take a second. What the hell's about my channel? I'll see you guys on Mike's channel in a half hour.