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Avoiding Babylon
Is Candace Owens helping the discourse? (Full LOCALS Version)
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Access to the FULL show on audio!The assassination of Charlie Kirk has revealed a terrifying truth about America that many suspected but could never confirm until now: we are no longer one country.
Unlike national tragedies of the past—9/11, JFK's assassination, even Martin Luther King Jr.'s death—which briefly united Americans in shared grief, this event has exposed an insurmountable divide. Half the country mourns while half celebrates, suggesting we've crossed what might be called an "event horizon"—a threshold beyond which return becomes impossible.
What makes this moment particularly dangerous isn't just the assassination itself but the environment surrounding it. We're witnessing fifth-generation warfare, where information manipulation creates a fog so thick that citizens can't discern truth from falsehood. Media narratives fragment into decontextualized clips, deepening divisions rather than promoting understanding. Meanwhile, America's youngest generation appears most severely divided, with fewer shared cultural touchpoints than any generation before them.
The dissolution of American identity accelerates through diminishing national pride and increasing cultural balkanization. Cities like Dearborn, Michigan—where American citizens are publicly declared "unwelcome" by elected Mohammedan officials—showcase this fragmentation. Immigration without assimilation further erodes what little common ground remains.
Most concerning is the potential for escalating violence. While the right has traditionally tolerated leftist agitation, patience wears thin. When pushed beyond a breaking point, the resulting backlash could trigger a cascade of retaliatory actions spiraling into widespread conflict.
As we navigate this precarious moment, Charlie Kirk's own wisdom resonates with haunting clarity: "When conversations stop happening, when individuals become wordless, that's when violence begins." The question remains—have we already passed the point of no return?
Join us as we examine what might be the most consequential moment in recent American history and consider what, if anything, can pull us back from the brink.
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Because IQ is largely genetic and because it is closely tied to violent crime, mandating the sterilization of those with IQs under 93 would likely drop violent crimes to 10% of current rate, no more than two generations from now.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it's like the fourth, fourth crusade all over again he never drops the ball man like he just. He never misses that kid, he is just so good so he sends it to me late last night. He's like I don't have anything for tomorrow, but I made this a couple days ago and maybe you guys can use it. I'm like you made the most genius thing a couple days that kid does not miss.
Speaker 3:He's amazing. I actually gave him a homework assignment. I posted the clip of the Simpsons clip of the Protestant heaven and Catholic heaven and I said I know it's a cartoon, but if you can somehow get Charlie Kirk in Catholic heaven, do you have any idea, bro? I think the Protestants are losing their mind over candace saying that charlie was praying the rosary losing.
Speaker 2:I think it might be a little too soon to play jokes with that?
Speaker 3:yeah, I guess. So yeah, it's poor taste. All right, we'll give it a, we'll give it a little bit, but give it, I mean. I mean, we all know charlie kirk was praying the rosary. I mean, it's a wrap, he was catholic, and if he wasn't catholic before, he is now he is now now he is now, so I don't know how I'm calling it a win.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we've had some, some interesting side conversations, you and I. So I'm watching the fiasco caused by Candace right, she's good at that man dude. She had two hundred 258 000 live viewers on youtube before like what wait? What do we? What do we have?
Speaker 2:200 if we're lucky, it's been rough.
Speaker 3:It's been rough lately 230 live viewers and she has 258 000 live viewers. Man, that girl, it's such an interesting. Um. Well, okay, so, uh, uh. Mrs c says it's too soon for candace to talk about it at all. I don't know, man, when, when some something's close to your heart like this because she was friends with charlie um, and there's some mystery surrounding some of the circumstances, like I don't know how, I mean especially her, she doesn't know how to not, you know, it's, it's I. I just don't think she, she, I don't think she could there are stereotypes there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I mean, um it's. It's funny because my wife doesn't watch podcasts and stuff.
Speaker 2:Adrian, are you sure? You sure it wasn't more like 240,000-ish?
Speaker 3:Oh boy, I'm making those jokes already. My wife doesn't watch podcasts and stuff. And I come home yesterday and she's got Candace on and she's watching Candace and it's like, all right, she's not watching Lila, that's a win, right.
Speaker 2:I mean her not watching Lila is a win. Her watching Candace is maybe not a win.
Speaker 3:No, well, I think you and I are going to have a different perspective on this. And so, man, my, my because my wife's an artist and she mainly sees like what artists are posting on their Instagram and stuff, right, and they're all. She's basically like I don't like she's devastated about what happened to Charlie. And then she's like I don't like, she's devastated about what happened to Charlie, and then she's like I don't understand what's wrong with people.
Speaker 3:I'm seeing people on Instagram saying things like why are people so focused on Charlie Kirk when children are dying in Gaza? And like like things like that. And I'm like, I'm like like, first off, like plenty of people are very focused on what's going on in gaza, like I don't, you know this isn't? It's such a weird thing to say. It's like, well, because the guy was a very prominent figure and the and the imagery that came from that event was so traumatic for the country and that's why people are talking about like, like the leftist mind is so bizarre the way they justify things and try to try to you know whatever. So, um, yeah, well, she somehow figured out the passcode to get on. I don't know, I tried to lock her out, but, um, one, two, three, four wasn't that difficult no it wasn't that tricky.
Speaker 3:Um, so yeah, so she, she is interesting because so she, she's, she's. She doesn't watch podcasts, right, but then every once in a while she'll just go on youtube and whatever comes on, comes on and because, like she subscribed to us, like they'll give her catholic stuff and then they'll give her candace, owens and she'll, she'll see like candace and milo on together and then she'll see a nick fuentes clip and she'll see Candace and Milo on together and then she'll see a Nick Fuentes clip. And she doesn't understand why Milo and Nick don't like each other and Candace and Nick don't like each other. She doesn't know anything that's going on.
Speaker 2:We could just take this from a stereotype perspective with those three, and it explains it pretty well.
Speaker 3:It kind of stinks because I would, uh, I think, well, I don't think we'll have a shot at getting milo now because he's going to go back on tour and he's going to do his college campus thing, but I think I would give, uh, I think, I think we would get a very good interview out of milo. But I know, like the way the factions are divided right now, you do that and then you piss off these people. It's just so bizarre how people are so caught into their tribes that you can't just have an interesting conversation with somebody without it setting off a whole other brigade of people being furious that you talk to that person but it would be nice to kind of talk to all of them as people not really involved with any of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so OK. So the Candace thing, ok. So you had messaged how did this conversation start, where it was like, do you want to nurse the nurse and doctor? It started with the nurse and doctor. It started with the nurse and doctor thing, right. But um, then I I sent you, I sent you the let's let's play the clip I sent you of the, of the, of the newscaster. So okay, we're gonna give you guys a little context here. So I, rob and I are in a group chat with a couple of guys and I saw this clip and I said I I think this girl, well, you said I'm so jaded that yeah, I said I'm so jaded that I think this girl is just being an opportunist and that this isn't like an authentic thing.
Speaker 3:But I didn't tweet it because I, because of the nurse thing, like I'm like, oh man, I like I don't like women who are desperate for attention at all, like it. Just something about it just like infuriates me, so I don't like women, full stop yes, but especially attention seeking women, right? So when the nurse thing happened, I just I don't know. I saw that. What so the the nurse story?
Speaker 2:is the nurse uh, her overheard a doctor say something about charlie kirk, like not caring about charlie kirk or something, and she went on her facebook or whatever to be fair to her, it was in front of other doctors and patient in a patient and she reported it to management first, okay, and then when they did nothing, then she went to.
Speaker 3:Then she went on facebook, right the instagram that she also posed pictures of her bikinis so when I, when I saw that, I'm like, yeah, I hate the surgeon, the surgeon should be fired, but I hate this woman too, I just, I just I wanted, I wanted the surgeon fired for what he said and I wanted her fired for public indecency like that was my mindset, I'm like, I'm like this thing looks like an only fans ad, like that's how it looks and I was just disgusted.
Speaker 3:But it was so close to the incident that even you had to say something publicly. So I'm like, all right, that was a bad take. Like it's not. You know, it's a bad take, okay. So I had a bad take. So the next one that came into my head was this one and I'm like I better not tweet this.
Speaker 2:Let me send this to the group chat it's a good thing you didn't, because we were all like don't be stupid so I'm like, let me send this to the group chat and test it out.
Speaker 3:I need to make sure I don't get pushback. Well, it's not just pushback, it's that, because I still do think what I think about this. But is it too time sensitive where I shouldn't do it yet? And you made a really good point to me. So let's play the clip and then we'll give context here.
Speaker 5:Much for tuning into Marketplace today. So I want to talk about something for a minute, and it is heavy, so please bear with me. I want you to know that it's okay if you feel sadness, it's okay if you're grieving. Two days ago, I lost a mentor, my first boss, the first person who made me believe in myself. That encouraged me to chase this dream that you're watching right now, charlie Kirk. There's a lot going on in our world right now, in our country, but I want to say one thing Lean on your neighbors, speak up for what you believe in, I don't care what it is. I want to share with you one of my favorite sayings that Charlie would always tell us at the office. He would yell it from the mountaintop. So please listen. When conversations stop happening, when individuals become wordless, that's when violence begins. So if you do one thing today, make it be with passion.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:You guys get it right. So local ABC affiliate anchor Benny Ray Harmony resigns after she was suspended for paying tribute to Charlie Kirk live on air, and then she puts out the statement. Many in the mainstream media have been fired or punished for mocking his assassination. I believe I am the first to be targeted for honoring him on air. My resignation is guided by values that are essential to who I am, which I refuse to set aside in order to keep a job. I choose my faith and love of country and always will unbelievable.
Speaker 2:You should be ashamed of yourselves, uh, abc now adrian has a very important question for you guys stop, I'm not, stop, you're gonna make me apologize.
Speaker 3:Stop it. You have it yet? No, I haven't, but I do feel bad about that. So um so now I said to rob in the group chat. I said I'm so jaded, I think this is self-serving and like she resigned, she wasn't fired I don't even know if she was she was suspended. I just think she's looking for a better job and just wants to make it all about herself. Rob, what did you actually say back to?
Speaker 2:her. I said so you said I'm so jaded that I think she planned this to jump, planned this to jumpstart her solo career and I said look, I get it.
Speaker 3:But ultimately this to jumpstart her solo career. And I said, look, I get it. But ultimately, so what if she did? Let's use it to tear down a liberal broadcast channel. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. And and so, like, I'm trying to work this whole situation out of what's happening around us. Right, so, like that is what gave me the like, the idea for the show tonight, because Rob made me think with that statement right, don't let perfect be the what is it?
Speaker 2:Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Speaker 3:So because even if this woman was doing that for self-aggrandizement, or to jumpstart a solo career, or for attention or anything, I might be right. I don't know, I was just guessing.
Speaker 2:I think you.
Speaker 3:You probably are, but I don't care but don't miss the opportunity to to take down this, these disgusting people who even suspended her for this right.
Speaker 2:Right, I mean we have to prioritize the problems we have right and like, yeah, we can deal with um, as you would put it uppity broad at a later date. First, let's deal with the people that literally cheer when we get murdered.
Speaker 3:So the thing is like I agree with that, but like I'm not going to. I'm not going to simp for Charlie here. I'm not becoming a simp in honor of Charlie. I love Charlie, but I'm not going to simp for Charlie here.
Speaker 2:I'm not becoming a simp in honor of.
Speaker 3:Charlie, I love Charlie, but I'm not All right, so I'm still allowed to fight. As long as we fight gross women behavior and fight leftists at the same time right.
Speaker 3:As long as we don't let things distract from the opportunity that we have right now and unfortunately I think it's already happening and we probably already lost the momentum and it's probably all screwed and we might as well just take the black bill now, cause we're all well, I do see the administration totally dropping the ball right, like there is this there was this feeling of momentum, not just I don't it's such a weird way to say it, but there was a feeling of, of genuine hurt and anger and people have kind of had it right and you're seeing the the same old tropes that leftists would throw at us about, like free speech and stuff like that. I think people have gotten to a point where they're just like we don't care about free speech right now. Like you, you don't have the right to be a vile, disgusting human being and it well, hold on.
Speaker 2:First off, I'm not sure what this is in in regard to, like we haven't talked about any means. That would be immoral. Yeah, yeah, uh, no, we're not suggesting anything like that. Um, I think we can still accomplish a lot even if, like the administration, administration and governmental structures aren't behind us. Honestly, just having the attitude of sorry, we don't give an F anymore, you can't control us with these threats, we're going to use it right back against you in the public sphere. I think that could be enough to at least set back that movement for a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do too. I think it's. It's interesting because for years we were in the other side of the other side of the like the pendulum, where it was. They had this ability to get us canceled and to get us, you know, get us banned from things. Where there is a bit of momentum on our side right now where, if they do say some vile stuff, we can push back and maybe get some people to face some consequences, which I do think is a good thing. And then the broader question of Candace came up, because you're, like people going down the typical conspiracy lane are missing the forest for the trees, like we should be focusing in on this leftist stuff and we shouldn't be missing an opportunity here to actually get some stuff done to then go down the conspiracy rabbit hole right.
Speaker 2:Well. So for me, like the telling thing of of what we saw last week and this weekend and stuff I mean obviously the the murder of charlie itself like, yes, whoever was involved with that, whoever they may be, whether it's just this one kid, a network of like-minded people like him, or the israeli government, whoever is involved with that yes, we do need to bring them to justice. But the larger issue at hand, at least in my opinion, was how half the country reacted. Right, and that shouldn't have surprised anyone, I think, even if you intellectually recognize that that was the case. It is different than seeing it right and hearing it and stuff like that. But I think that's the larger issue, that's the more pressing issue, um, and we do need to deal with that. I think that's the real problem. Is that, um, that half the country wants the other half the country dead?
Speaker 3:yeah, and they, and they really do it. They do so all right. So the canvas thing um, the problem is we'll see clips and people will post clips like a short three minute segment of something she said and they'll frame it the way they want. And you think that what candace is saying is the jews are behind this, and that's not actually what she's saying. She's pointing out like how shameless bb netanyahu was to go on tv the day of or the next day and instead of just saying something nice about charlie kirk, he's like charlie kirk was a big supporter of israel and just tried to start like framing the whole thing around israel, like like they did that, you know and right, there were some things that we were starting to see in charlie kirk where he was starting to just just like have like he he refused to take tucker carlson off of, off of his tour and and he was starting to have the conversation around around this and saying like if you guys don't allow any conversation at all to happen or criticism of the Israeli government whatsoever, you're going to start building actual anti-Semitism. They were furious that he was taking this position.
Speaker 3:So Candace kind of just went through this whole thing, outlining how that position changed. At no time did she say they were behind what happened the other day. But that does lead to like really weird events that did occur around that day. One of them is that, like Bill Ackman offers a million dollar reward to the person who helps find the killer, and that turns out to be the killer's dad, who's a mormon, and he gets a million dollar reward now for turning in his gay son no, he's giving it to the kirk family okay, yeah, well, that well, yeah, but okay, so that's good.
Speaker 3:um, there's, there's, there's still like a lot of weird stuff and when and when and when we like when I was, even when I was talking about this the other day, it's not like at any point I thought Israel hired an agent to go and do this. It's more like what we, what we saw with, like, the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping you remember the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping, where it was like yeah, there was a trap, meant by the federal government.
Speaker 2:Yeah it the federal government.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was like entrapment right now what we've been talking about, these different cells, uh, even from from the, the kids out in minneapolis, right like he was part of these weird groups and stuff and it is.
Speaker 2:It is the same groups, the same groups, right?
Speaker 3:yeah, there's not an ounce of me that doubts that we have intelligence assets inside of these groups and the question is are are they there spying on them or pushing them on?
Speaker 3:or pushing them on right and I think it's both right. I do. I I think some of it is spying and they're probably preventing some things, but then I guarantee in other cases they're provoking stuff to get their political ends right. So that doesn't mean that somebody is directly hired by this person or somebody is a an agent of this person. It means that there's people in these groups who are acting like they're part of the group, who are actually antagonizing things or oh wait, of course we scoped this place out and you probably have a good shot from this area, right?
Speaker 2:in these groups are, you know, ideological children of the groups that you know the kgb supported, so in in like. It's been well known that the russian um, fsb has kept in contact with some of them. So you know you probably have russian agents in there, and I'm not saying they're behind this or anything, right, but then you have you know you probably have Russian agents in there, and I'm not saying they're behind this or anything, right.
Speaker 2:But then you have, you know, american counterintelligence and probably British counterintelligence. And, like all intelligence agencies all across the world, from every country, have their own agendas and they're often more in line with each other each other's than they are with their respective nations.
Speaker 3:So you get into with this, so like people will, will talk about like mk ultra and they think that the government's like putting lsd and people's things to mind, control them.
Speaker 3:Like we're at a point now where you don't need to do any of that kind of stuff especially when you're dealing with groups like these people on the left, where they're already mentally unstable right, it doesn't take much to provoke these people in like you see them cheering for something like this well, they're plus the average drugs your average soccer mom takes in a day way more powerful than the lsd they used in mk ultra absolutely so. Like these people are all on ssris, they're all eating cannabis now, they're all all these things. They're very easy. It doesn't take lsd, it takes good propaganda, and they have perfected the art of propaganda.
Speaker 2:So like not even, not even necessarily propaganda. I mean uh, I mean yeah, some obviously, but like pornography yeah I mean, for instance, the, the weird guy that was yelling uh yeah, oh man, they found child, yeah, child porn on his phone on his phone, and it's well known that these groups are they. They peddle in child porn too dude we it's.
Speaker 3:We've been talking for a couple of years now about how artificial intelligence is gonna to do this and that the government's going to be able to know every single text message that goes out. And they've infiltrated every single. Like there's not even you can't even go on the signal app without them tracking you right. So I I find it very hard to believe that these groups exist and that we don't have intel agencies inside of them knowing exactly what's going on. I find it very hard to believe that when they released those text messages from from those two today, as if that wasn't just a way to cover for the boyfriend, like it's just silly but even the fact that some of the stuff's redacted and then other stuff's put in, there's no timestamps on anything. So so to the larger question of do I think Candace is helping the conversation? Yes, because it's. I don't. I think it's good.
Speaker 3:For I know you may not agree with this, but I think that we're all thinking differently now than we would have when we just had, like, the three major news outlets giving us information, you know, but there's, there's also an aspect of so my, so my wife was watching candace and she's going through all this. My wife's like I don't understand if, like, if, if israel is really this powerful, like, why haven't they gotten candace? And I said, okay, so here's the thing candace goes off so much on some of these things that it's easy for people to just go. Candace is a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 2:Therefore, everyone who believes similar things is the same. It's easy for people to just go Ken. This is a crazy conspiracy theorist. Therefore, everyone who believes similar things is the same.
Speaker 3:It's just a crazy conspiracy theorist. What Charlie was doing was way more dangerous because Charlie was just being rational and starting to question things slightly. And if he does start to come around on that question slowly and knock down some crazy oh my goodness, the USS Liberty thing and it's more just like, hey, you know, maybe we should ask this question. Charlie has millions of people watching him and it's way more dangerous for somebody like that, who everybody trusts and it doesn't see him as a crazy conspiracy theorist. That's a way more dangerous person than candace owens is to them, because candace people you see it all all over Twitter People are just like Candace is crazy, she's a liar, she's there, she's that half half the comments are people in rage that Candace had the audacity to say Charlie, you're too smart to be Protestant.
Speaker 3:It's amazing how people like react to one little thing and miss, miss the forest for the trees and clips when they're. When you're seeing everything in sound bites and clips nowadays, it's really an interesting time to be alive and to see these, because I kind of went into this thinking that Candice wasn't helping the conversation and then I listened to Candice's show and I was like, wow, this is kind of important, what she's going through right now.
Speaker 2:Will it actually allow for any action to be taken?
Speaker 3:I don't know. Okay. So part of what I think we have to also be cautious of is, you know how, like we're getting drummed up about left and right and we're like we have to do something about the left, we have like so much of this is just building tension between the left and right in our own country and and causing but we can't, we can't, we can't live next to them I know I'm not disagreeing with you. You know I don't know what to do, but I do.
Speaker 2:I agree we shouldn't be driven blindly into what someone else wants right and a left versus right dialectic.
Speaker 2:You know we shouldn't we shouldn't be driven to another iraq war with propaganda, for instance, you know. So we do have to be prudent and reasonable and things like that. But what? What really worries me and we talked on this on an episode a year or two ago about fifth generation warfare is that the the whole idea behind fifth generation warfare and that's basically information warfare is is to make it to where you can't believe anything. You don't believe anything, right, you don't know what to believe. Let's say, can you believe something? You suddenly find something that makes you not believe in, and now you, you know you're always going down a different rabbit hole the fog of war right.
Speaker 3:Like you't, dude, I'm very much in that place.
Speaker 2:And because of that you're afraid to act, because you don't believe in what you even think you believe. You don't know what to believe, so you sit there and not. You don't act, you don't do anything. You don't unite with the people you should unite against. You don't fight against the people you should fight against. So they disarm society completely? Uh, by, by just making it to where you don't know what to believe you don't know who to trust, right, you don't know who to trust.
Speaker 3:You don't know if the person like even look at trump throughout this whole thing. Man, I'm so, I'm so infuriated with him right now, like he is such a narcissistic I I don't, I don't know. Man like this charlie kirk got him elected and watching him just like say one or two quick statements about him and then just kind of move on, like at least jd vance understands the gravity of the situation. Jd vance I mean some have you know you can have whatever opinions you want of JD Vance, but at least he understands the gravity of the situation, how attached to Charlie the American people were, and even if they weren't attached to him, how big of an event this was on the American psyche. So JD Vance got up and said some very powerful thing. I mean, he went up and said the Nicene Creed. Essentially, I never thought I'd hear the vice President of the United States get up and say the Nicene Creed on air.
Speaker 2:I think we're seeing a Trump that was either way more affected by the assassination attempt than we thought or is really just suffering from old age at this point, and I think, from from what everyone says that knew him and Charlie and their relationship, that he is probably just grieving, you know, and maybe the only way he knows how you know I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he knows how. You know I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it's like, well, I don't know, man, I think we're. I think the whole situation has been very, uh, reminiscent of like 9-11, almost, where you don't know when it's appropriate to stop talking about it. Right, like I still remember after 9-11, you couldn't take your eyes off the TV and you, like I remember wondering, three months on from and I don't think this is that impactful, obviously, but three months on after 9-11, there wasn't a single day where every single New York newspaper didn't have a picture of ground zero on the front cover I remember thinking like is anything else ever going to be front page news like you even saw that this year, 24 years later, there were some people who were upset that the anniversary of 9-11 were overshadowed by this assassination in charl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3:It's an interesting one because 9-11 really is such a an impactful event and all and anybody, anybody over 35, I was, how old are you say?
Speaker 2:I'm, I'm, I'm 36, so yeah, I would say anybody over 34 35. It was a very, very, very impactful if, if you watched it in school basically, and remember watching in school, yeah, and it impacted you for sure yeah, um.
Speaker 3:So even this, though, right. So who benefits? Right? Um, you like there also is a degree of which you can't just see, the see something that happened and find the evidence you want to find to make that the case right. So, and there's so, there's so much of that going on through this fog of war fifth generational warfare stuff too where we all kind of have this preconceived idea of what happened, before we even know what happened and you don't have all the evidence out there. Like there's no conspiracy yet, rob, you were saying this to me in the green room. There's no conspiracy yet because the, the government hasn't told us the story right.
Speaker 2:You can't have a conspiracy theory if you don't have, if you haven't been provided yet with the full narrative you're supposed to believe. We don't even have that yet yeah.
Speaker 3:So there's not even anything to pick apart and say they're lying to us about, yet we're just getting these bits and pieces of things. It does look like they're trying to make it seem that one man did this and one man was responsible, and I don't think anybody's buying that?
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't. Who do you mean? They don't think the FBI is?
Speaker 3:seeing the indictment so far is just about the one guy. The news reports are being presented about these text messages trying to absolve the boyfriend. Even the way the news, the news is presenting it like. Oh, it's so strange we have that clip of that creepy news reporter. You think you can find that this creepy news reporter presenting I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Um presenting it.
Speaker 3:Uh, it's actually a what you're talking about Presenting it. It's actually a tweet. You responded to me, I tweeted it out and I said that anybody believes these text messages are real, and I don't think I tweeted it that long ago. So, like I know I tweet a lot, I got it. Listen to how this news reporter is presenting this is obscene. Listen to how this news reporter is presenting this.
Speaker 4:This is obscene. We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it, a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him my love and I want to protect you, my love. So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case and on the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner. So a very interesting and, as Pierre said, riveting press conference.
Speaker 2:I think he's already writing a screenplay in his head.
Speaker 3:Is that not unbelievably creepy that he's even saying like it's the duality of man in one moment, if he's? Murdering a guy he's loving his partner like oh, if you're a guy, a straight guy, a normal guy.
Speaker 2:Your instant reaction was you. He just called another dude.
Speaker 3:My love, yeah what's that news article that came out? It's like when the reaction men have to seeing two men like heterosexual men. If they see two men kiss, it's the same as like seeing maggots. Um sarah stock uh, I'm not a promoter of e-girls but I did like this tweet of hers. She said those messages between robinson and the trans boyfriend seemed so fake. If someone close to me texted me that they assassinated a public figure, I wouldn't be like why did you do it? I would assume it's some sick joke and then I would spam call them until they picked up right.
Speaker 2:So daffy says there's a clip in your dms oh, boy, let's see it, daffy, if it's the simpsons one, we're not he did it, he did it, he did it with the simpsons.
Speaker 3:Hold on, oh man, I'm gonna send it to me. I'll watch it without putting on I don't know if I can send it, I'll just, I'll just present it, hang on no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I don't know if everyone should. Why? What are you worried?
Speaker 3:about seems a little oh, you think we'll do it on locals. It seems a little insensitive. You guys are brain damaged over on locals anyway, so you guys won't judge us. Alright, if you guys want to see it, it's on locals we don't need Lofton, everybody wants it to play. You gotta watch on locals. We got a couple things about locals too. I want to address somebody on locals that I can't. I'm not even going to hint at it over here because I don't want to start and it's not Michael Lofton.
Speaker 3:No, it's nobody like famous or anything, it's somebody you want to know. It's not famous.
Speaker 3:I mean maybe a little famous, Well as of recent. He was on that Jubilee thing. All right, never mind, we'll get it. Wait, where was I? Oh thing, all right, never mind, we'll get. Uh, um, wait, well, it was like oh the. So the sarah stock tweet is yeah, like if somebody texted you some, your loved one, especially right. Like if I texted my wife, read the note under the computer. I just killed some. Like my wife would be frantically calling me or it'd be like what, what? No, what do you? What? What kind of ridiculous thing are you saying? Right now? There's no chance I don't see it of ridiculous thing. Are you saying?
Speaker 2:right now. There's no chance. I don't see it under the keyboard. Are you sure you left it under the keyboard?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what it would be Like. There's no chance that you would react that way if somebody admitted to the craziest event happening in the media at that moment and like the weird details he's describing about. Oh, they have some other guy they're questioning talking about the old man. It's like was this guy like watching live, as he was on the run and on the lam and so it was just very bizarre.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, look at you guys guessing like I said, we, we obviously when you know we don't. I don't think the fbi is the full story yet, but we sure as the heck don't have it. Will we ever have it? I don't know. But if I had to guess, like, yeah, there's a larger conspiracy here in the sense, like it other people knew, you know the, the so-called boyfriend, the different discord groups, and like, yeah, there are people in those discord groups that have connections to the state department, to the un. And like, yeah, there are people in those discord groups that have connections to the state department, to the UN. And like, not like high up or anything. But yeah, I think we're going to find out that there was a wider conspiracy. There has to be there.
Speaker 2:At least people who talked about it in a theoretical sense.
Speaker 3:And that's what I, because there was also all these other messages that we were seeing all over the place of people saying look out for something happening on September 10th and all stuff like that. So, like we know, there was right. Bobby says the note under the keyboard told him to follow the script to make him look innocent. That's a problem. Yeah, the yeah. The text messages read out, and Matt Walsh pointed this out. I don't want to, I don't want to steal it from him. He pointed out perfectly. It reads like Walter White trying to get Skyler off at the end of Breaking Bad by making it like she knew nothing about any of the stuff he was doing. So this is the unpaid for locals, just to get the tea. Yeah, I, just I was. I tried to give some elder brother advice and I don't know if he took it. I don't know. I won't say it on here though. I'm not trying to cause drama, it's just. You know you guys are.
Speaker 3:People actually get very upset when we put um, when we put uh, like chats up on screen and don't read them, because they're driving and listening to the show or they're doing the audio only thing. So somebody's making fun of me saying a body is trying to use his fiducia supplicants glasses to read the texts. Never used locals before. You guys don't know what you're missing over there, and I think actually we're going to start shortening the YouTube show to like 45 minutes and giving an hour and 15 over to locals. We're also going to be bringing on guests for the advice show. So I'm going to have Joshua Charles come on one episode. We're going to have Brian Holdsworth come on for an episode. We're going to have Michael Hitchborn come on for an episode.
Speaker 3:We're going to we're going to get different people to come on. Hopefully, some of the people that we have come on will be more theologically sound than Rob and I, so that if you need advice, you know, if you need like family advice, rob and I can help. But if you have something on a theology question or a question about the fathers, we'll have a holdsworth or a joshua charles there to give you guys a little more depth. It'll be like trad answers live instead of catholic answers live. We're not stealing it, guys. I promise they steal enough from us. Guys, yes, you, I promise they steal enough from us. You guys all steal enough from us. So, yeah, that's what we're thinking of doing with locals. We're going to try different things.
Speaker 2:We have the only Catholic gun show for a good four weeks.
Speaker 3:And yeah, and there might be some other news we could reveal on the other side. I don't know if we should yet I don't know. Yeah, no, not yet. Soon soon we'll have some inside info for you guys over there, but, Anthony, hold on.
Speaker 2:Let me see if that's back up.
Speaker 3:Do you read the books behind you actually?
Speaker 2:The Harry Potter ones.
Speaker 3:Yes, I don't know there are. There are many that I have read behind me, but there are also a lot of books that Steve Cunningham sends me daily, and, no, I can't read them all, but I am waiting for a time when I just have some time to read, and I'm going to read also the young Protestant boy, dominic who is being, who came to mass with me once and then I was sick this past weekend so I couldn't bring him again. I'm going to bring a book or two, I'm going to see what good book to bring him and let him have the.
Speaker 2:Catholic controversy. What do you think I should get? Catholic controversy by Francis DeSalle. That's a rough one for a newbie, okay, but Because he wrote them as little pamphlets, right that he would drop around Geneva. And then he converted 80,000 Calvinists back to the faith, and they later collected it into a big book. The kid seems smart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he does. I'll tell you that I would love to get Maudsley back on and get his opinion on current events also.
Speaker 2:Mr C said I should bring. Where was it?
Speaker 3:I know we're kind of going off on tangents right now. We will get back to to uh, like pam bondy. Oh, you want to talk about how the right is going to butcher, butcher this whole opportunity before them. Like pam bondy today just look at just look at how dumb these people are like. These are the people we voted in because we thought we were going to have some.
Speaker 2:Well, no one voted for pam bondy. No, but we voted in because we thought we were going to have some. Well, no one voted for Pam Bondi.
Speaker 3:No, but we voted for the man who put her in position. Unfortunately, this is what the best the right has to offer. When something like this happens, they act like leftists. The absurdity of this, go ahead. What?
Speaker 5:are you waiting for? You waiting for making me look stupid? There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place especially now, especially after what happened to charlie, in our society. Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people, so we show them that some action is better than no action? We will absolutely target you. Go after you. If you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything, and that's across the aisle. How?
Speaker 3:does Barbie get into the attorney general's office?
Speaker 5:there is no place I don't know like.
Speaker 3:This woman is very dim-witted, like all the conservative women that think she is just a moron. She's talking about hate speech. Seriously, there's no such thing as hate speech. It is a. It is a leftist term they made up to accuse us of anytime we're being mean, we're breaking the law. She also said today that, um, if you go to, uh, like a I don't I don't remember what store she brought up, but like, if you want to have a printout of charlie kirk's face brought up and and they won't print it for you, yeah, office depot, and they won't print out charlie k, office Depot, yeah, office Depot, and they won't print out Charlie Kirk for you, we're going to come after you and it's like didn't we?
Speaker 2:just go through this with the cake thing About 10 years ago, but yeah.
Speaker 3:Where the bakery owner didn't want to put a message that they, you know they didn't want to put a gay wedding. They didn't want to make a gay wedding cake. Like, we'll make you a wedding cake, we're not making a gay wedding cake, though you know we'll serve gay people. We're not saying we won't serve gay people, but we're not going to put a message onto something that we don't agree with. So I mean, we've gone through this, went through the Supreme court, didn't it? Yeah, it went through the Supreme court, and and and the bakery one.
Speaker 2:So, like, we're now going to re-litigate leftist causes from our perspective, I think they're going to say that's true because of the Office Depot thing. It really is the same.
Speaker 3:It's the same thing. We don't want to print a message, and they should have that right. Go to a different place. It doesn't mean they won't serve you to print a different message. So it's not like discrimination against you. You can't force me to print a different message. So it's not like discrimination against you. You can't force me to print a message that I don't agree with. There's plenty of other bakeries out there that'll bake your gay wedding cake, like you can't force a Christian baker to put that message on. So you can't change the rules. That's the other thing, right? I'm very worried that this administration is going to enact laws and things that leftists actually want and make it look good, and then when they get back in power, they're going. It's the same thing with the Patriot Act. Those are real things to worry about, so we have to be very careful about how we go about it.
Speaker 2:This administration's not doing anything.
Speaker 3:They're not doing anything right. But I am for laws against certain speech, like there should be obscenity laws. I'm okay with obscenity laws, I'm okay. There should be things enacted that degrade the culture, right things that, not hate speech. You can't go with hate speech. There has to be like something. If something degrades the culture, there can be laws enacted against it. Like I'm not like a free speech absolutist, I think free speech should absolutely have limits and anybody that's catholic should think that there's no.
Speaker 2:You know, we don't believe free speech is a principle.
Speaker 3:Free speech is an error, for sure so, yes, there should be laws against, like there should be blasphemy laws. I'm okay with putting laws yeah, somebody said that Anti-blasphemy laws. I'm okay with putting laws into place. If we're not conserving Christian culture, I don't know what conservatives are doing at all, because that's the whole point. What is a conservative at this point?
Speaker 2:We haven't had real conservatives in this country for 200 years.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Yeah, do I believe in Valhalla? I'm not a Pajit. I don't believe in Valhalla as a Catholic. Yeah, so you got to check out the Monday Night Show. Second Amendment absolutes. Yes, I should be able to own nuclear weapons, jake. I'm very glad to see you in our chat the last couple of episodes, jake, because I'm in your chat all the time for your show and it's nice to see you come back and show some love. Tim Gordon says these rules require a state defendant. Private enterprise is not bound to employ losers in perpetuity. They get fired for the same reason. We are not compelled to shop there. Yeah, tim's the law student. I would trust him. Oh, my brother, joey, is in the chat. Bring back the old Babylon, where you brought on guests and talk about the faith. Now it's like a news podcast, like everybody else. I think a Francis Sinod talks more about Jesus than Antos Brutal.
Speaker 2:Brutal.
Speaker 3:Joey, you're on my crew tomorrow. Joey, I don't think you're going to like how I handle this comment in the morning. My brother Joey's on my crew tomorrow. I will be punishing him. How are you going to say that to your brother? Text me that you jerk. What's the matter with you? It's a kid. Why? Is it?
Speaker 3:It's my little brother, my kid brother. Yeah, I don't, I don't, yeah. Well, in regards to that, joe, we you know there's only so many discussions on on like theology you could have, so we switch it up. You know, we'll have. We'll have some guests on soon, that we'll. We'll get back into that, but this is such a big event.
Speaker 2:He wasn't. He wasn't in the chat when we had Charles Franny on to talk about the saints. So yeah, it's, it's it is kind of funny.
Speaker 3:You want to talk Joey, fredo a body. I'm going to take my brother, joey, out a little fishing trip this weekend. We'll see.
Speaker 2:I didn't see him in the chat when Joshua Charles was on to talk about the overthrow of Christ's earthly kingdom. Yeah. Or when Dr Marshall was on to talk about Christian patriotism.
Speaker 3:It's almost like the news shows are what actually gets people to watch. Unfortunately, my brother, joey, does not pay for locals as much I know. We gave it to him for free, asking us for a handout, asking us for a handout.
Speaker 3:Coach p, you guys better chill. Everybody's coming down on us now, Coach P. Joey, hit the mark. Don't ask Joey about my job. Don't ask Joey about my job, Alright. So we're going to head over to Locals now. We're going to talk about the faith. You guys want the theology show. We're going to do it over there Now. We do have some things to discuss over there. We'll keep this one short, Don't worry. If you know I'm not. You guys, we're the only Catholic content show out there that George Farmer hasn't befriended. I'm a little upset about this. So you know, we're being nice to Candace now, but if George keeps this up, we're being nice to Candice now, but if George keeps this up, it's not going to go that way forever. We're going to head over to Locals, guys. We got some stuff to talk about over there. We're going to hit the pine sap a little bit. I said it already. I kind of blew the spot. I just want to talk about it. We're going to go do the tea over there, Right, Mrs C.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm cutting them all now.
Speaker 3:You got to get another exit song or something for this awkward moment. It's a pain in the butt, I know it's kind of weird, um. So I, I caught a. I caught a pinesap live stream the other day and I and I and I actually enjoyed it. Um, I thought it was. It was good he. He was talking about um, like political action and how he's fed up and he's like you know, I don't give a crap about the constitution anymore. Like I want to start seeing laws enacted that are that are, you know, pro Christianity, things like that. Like the message itself was fine. The vulgarity I don't get like I get that Nick does it. Hang on, let me pull up the locals chat. Yeah, me too. I don't get like I get that Nick does it.
Speaker 2:Hang on, let me pull up the locals chat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, me too. Like I get that Nick does it. But there's something different about when Nick does it, Like he could pull it off almost where it it seemed. It seemed disingenuous when Pinesap was doing it, almost like he was doing it for shock value. And I do think, especially as a new convert and especially as a groiper like they're constantly accusing groipers of not being Catholic I don't think you guys should be giving them any more reason to make these accusations. It's just unnecessary in my opinion. Yeah, we need a local segue video, rob.
Speaker 2:I have the one taffy made.
Speaker 3:Now I do know he's speaking to a very different audience than us. That's a much younger audience. I don't know, is there. I think it's a little different to throw an F-bomb if you're just with your friends versus getting on stream and drop. I've always been put off when Tim Gordon does that on stream.
Speaker 3:It's not that I'm like offended by the F word. I hear the F word all day long. It's that like we should have some kind of control over our tongues. You know what I mean. And like when you're on a stream and you're presenting yourself as a Catholic, I just think it's probably good etiquette. It's not like I'm offended by the F word, it's all. But also some people do watch our show with their kids in the car and I think that they should be able to expect we don't take the lord's name in vain and that we don't. You know, I mean I think we dropped, we've. You said the s word, but I, I don't know. F bombs are just, it's just an ugly. Uh, I don't know. Am I, am I way off, guys, you, me?
Speaker 2:No, I mean there's a difference between dropping it in the moment, like incidentally, or out of habit, or in an emotionally charged moment, but there's also times where it's just clearly there to be edgy and there's no excuse for that.
Speaker 3:Like uh, it wasn't. I mean I don't, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to say grandma, body over here. I'm not what I'm saying. I'm not even coming down on the kid, it's.
Speaker 2:I reached out to him Like my issue is that he just he, he he, he's just said. I don't even really care, because I've blocked and unblocked him so many times on Twitter. At this point, he's just a discount. Fuentes, that's all he'll ever be. What? That's all he'll ever be what.
Speaker 3:But I don't think he has to like mimic nick like that, like nick, I don't know man, when nick drops an f-bomb it's funny, it's not. And nick's not presenting himself as a catholic like he does. Like he's catholic but like he's not. Like People don't tune into him for that. They're tuning into him for his political takes, for his comedic takes, things like that I don't know.
Speaker 2:And there's no reason to tune into Pinesap for that, because he's just going to mirror exactly what Pointus is. So you might as well just go directly to the source.
Speaker 3:Pinesap, tim's, not a discount. Those are silly things. Tim is who he is um who are robbie, are you?
Speaker 3:guys not paying attention to the conversation. I don't understand. I'm not gonna. You guys want me to say that stuff on the screen. I'm not going, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna knock the younger catholics who are trying to figure things out right now. But yeah, if you're a new convert and you're a groiper and you're doing public things, I think you guys should try to be cautious about how you're presenting yourselves, because people are looking to make you guys out to be villains right now. There was an attempt of some left-wing media outlets to try to frame this assassin as a groiper. Like you got, you got a, you got a the chat what? Wow? You guys are bashing traditional tomas you guys are the worst.
Speaker 2:We got to meet nick in person for the first time last week yeah, we did um, he's not as tall as I thought.
Speaker 3:no, I was expecting nick to be like 6'3 or something Same thing with Kennedy.
Speaker 2:Kennedy's not as tall as I thought.
Speaker 3:No, kennedy's like my height, or like maybe an inch taller or something. So is Nick. They're both like my height and an inch taller.
Speaker 2:Brian's exactly what I expected.
Speaker 3:Too many people doing podcasts who don't actually have the talent to make it worthwhile it is. It is a harder, um, a harder thing to pull off than people realize, like having the ability to riff on on topics and just go into another topic, like there. There are points when Rob and I are talking where I'm like I. I I can sense a lull in the conversation where I know I got it. That's why Rob will get on me for putting 50 things in the group chat. But you never know where a conversation is going to go. Sometimes you run out of things to say about a particular subject, so you got to have something else on deck.
Speaker 2:They're complaining about not getting the video, so here you go, guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, let's watch it. I didn't see it yet either. Let's go.
Speaker 4:Marge Simpson welcome to Protestant Heaven Ruin one, hurrah Poppy, have you seen?
Speaker 3:Dash Where's Homer and Bart, there is he.
Speaker 4:I'm so glad I made it to this side, dude that is amazing isn't it, holy cow?
Speaker 3:oh, my goodness, I think you gotta put him a little earlier in the video, though I don't know, I think that was perfect, dude, that is brilliant. Alright, taffy, I gotta give you, I gotta give you the. I mean you made the video, dude. I mean it'll go way crazier if I tweet it out. I'll do it after the show, I guess do it now.
Speaker 2:How's the better time for engagement? I'll do it after the show. I guess no, do it now. Do it now. Now's the better time for engagement. You know what's going to happen, right, what. You know how it's going to go far. Okay, wait, all right. You're probably going to end up in a James White sermon again it would be funny.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I'm letting it play in the background, but this is going to be alright.
Speaker 2:I'll tweet in a sec what I would do, and then, in a follow up tweet to it, take Taffy in it alright, give it a sec.
Speaker 3:The problem with locals is you guys get a lot of like down, downtime. All right, all right, screen recorded.
Speaker 2:Let's save it, let's and bobby says you know this might get you noticed by george farmer. It's also gonna get noticed by every everyone who already doesn't invite us on their podcast and just further cement that okay, let's say video okay mrs casey says you're gonna end up on taco talks okay, wait now.
Speaker 3:How should I?
Speaker 2:you know you should be. You should be like um no, the simpsons got another prediction, right where the simpsons prophesized another event. Because you?
Speaker 3:know how every event Charlie Kirk in.
Speaker 2:Catholic Heaven In Catholic Heaven.
Speaker 3:Simpsons prophesied. Everybody that follows me on Twitter needs to retweet this after I fire it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, comment and retweet this after I fire it off. Yeah, comment and retweet it.
Speaker 3:In Catholic.
Speaker 2:You're going to make Matt Fradd cry again.
Speaker 3:someone says Simpsons prophesied Charlie Kirk's Catholic conversion. Should I do that?
Speaker 4:No, charlie Kirk's.
Speaker 3:Catholic conversion conversion should I, should I do that? No, yes, charlie kirk's catholic conversion is it?
Speaker 2:hold on? Yeah, is this too soon, guys? Is this in bad taste? I mean, like, clearly it's a bad taste, but is it in way too bad of taste? Yes, is this, mrs? C I trust you C I trust you, I trust you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, come on, molly. Mrs C says yes, yes, fire the tweet off, or yes, it's a bad thing he says, no, I made it, so it's good taste.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's good taste, okay it's.
Speaker 3:It's definitely, I'd say over 50, say it's a little too soon charlie kirk and catholic heaven a lot of people are saying wait until after the funeral or should I just write protestants, I are not going to like this one Because they won't watch it to the end. Because that's why. Because he's so late in the video that, like most people have seen this clip already, I should have never tweeted the original freaking thing before. All right, I'm gonna do the worst. You really are. Should I do it? You guys gotta tell me, should I do it? I'm doing it, I don't care. No, I don't think you should rob.
Speaker 2:It's so much worse. No, but I have to be on record saying that I was going to write. Wait a minute. Someone says paying for AB Locals is just paying to watch. Anthony in real time For normal people. Too soon and bad taste For Anthony. It's fine.
Speaker 3:Alright, I'm doing it. Simpsons, I have to retype it now, prophesying Charlie Kirk, just Charlie Kirk's Catholic conversion. I'm going to write just Charlie Kirk's Catholic conversion. I'm going to write am I going to get destroyed over this?
Speaker 2:that's what I'm wondering. I'm not worried about the Protestants. They're going to be pissed, no matter when you do it. Is this going to?
Speaker 3:I'm just doing it. I don't care. I hit it. It's sending give it a sec. I don't care. I hit it. It's sending Give it a sec. I don't care. You guys better retweet it. It didn't go through yet.
Speaker 2:I got myself involved in this.
Speaker 3:I'm still sick, guys.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry for the coughing All I did was play Catholic triviavia on Cart Ride. That's all I did. And how did this happen?
Speaker 3:Yo should we play the Kid in the Suit video. Yeah, that's a good video.
Speaker 2:Let's play that one.
Speaker 3:That was Andy's going to write one sentence, oh my gosh, are you guys kidding me? Holy cow, that was brutal. We shouldn't be laughing at that. That's terrible of you.
Speaker 7:Can't wait for the apology.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to retweet it with my apology meme.
Speaker 3:You actually should. You should tweet it like I am not responsible for Anthony's opinions or something. That's the shirt he was wearing. Oh man, you maybe want to delete that. Oh, taffy, taffy, all right.
Speaker 2:Prophesying, not prophesizing it's prophesying, not prophesizing it's prophesying right hold on oh, I thought Jason and Mark were talking about what you just tweeted. Jason said Anthony is cooked. Mark, but it's just no, it's just the reason.
Speaker 3:Oh, we've got to talk about that too. Michael Lofton, we've got to talk about that too. Okay, let's do the kid in the suit video he goes. I didn't know, it was the shirt. I'm blaming Tappy for this.
Speaker 1:If I catch heat for this, this are going to probably catch you think so probably are yeah all right, let's see.
Speaker 3:Let's see the comments. Simpsons right again. This is amazing, wow, amazing. I love you guys. You guys are the best.
Speaker 2:Don't get. We tried to stop him. I love it when other people throw you under the bus.
Speaker 3:You guys are freaking awesome dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Tyler's right, you should have asked josh first, he would have given you a scholarly answer when is catching shit?
Speaker 3:ever stopped you. You know what I, but I don't want to disrespect charlie's memory.
Speaker 2:It's just that was funny I guess yeah, that's the real question like is it disrespectful? I don't feel like it's jake, jake, jake.
Speaker 3:Do I follow you? How do I not follow you? Oh, it's amazing I don't, I didn't even know jake was on twitter. That's great. Um, all right, you want to do the kid in the suit? Yeah, I, I'm sorry, but this is a fun hang. Come on, I know we're goofing around and playing on Twitter and stuff, but this is a fun hang. It's not disrespectful. Listen, as long as you guys still love me, I don't care who's mad at me. One delete, two, leave it up. Let's see. I mean okay.
Speaker 2:So he thought the South Park thing was funny, funny, and that was way more disrespectful than this it's hopeful yeah that's a good point you guys are gonna say hold on, people think it's real, do they? Well to be fair, all you geniuses who are sure you caught Israel in in a conspiracy to kill Charlie Kirk also fell for the Destiny three-year-old tweet.
Speaker 4:So good job geniuses.
Speaker 3:This tweet's going to get me in trouble. You guys are the worst. All right, we'll see how that plays out. To be fair, he isn't having like I mean, they show protestants in heaven.
Speaker 3:I don't know protestant. Heaven is hell dude. You see how boring that. Could you imagine doing that forever? Even the simpsons depiction of it? I can't imagine doing that for an afternoon. I'm not scrolling Twitter, I was just checking my comments. All right, play the video of the kid in the suit. What are we doing? These people are going to get mad at us. They're going to unsubscribe Unsubscribe. What do other people do in Locals Like on other channels? What people doing locals like on other channels like what's my channel?
Speaker 2:like I'm really curious to see like it's a group cry session.
Speaker 3:I've been at praise with them a lot and like there's like meditations with them, stuff like that. That's not what we do, guys. I'm sorry joey's gonna be mad at me tomorrow.
Speaker 7:I don't, I don't come from any kind of volume and I've never owned a suit before.
Speaker 7:You know, I don't, I don't come from any kind of money and I've never owned a suit before. My wife, uh, she bought me this suit. Our anniversary is coming up and we have a nice anniversary plan. You know, we make a little bit of money now and I'm I'm proud to say that, uh, because that's certainly not where either one of us comes from, and I feel good in this suit, man, and I just want my wife to know she made me feel good. It's a $300 suit.
Speaker 7:Yeah, there might be an F-bomb in here, guys, I've never had nothing like this before in my life and I tell you what okay video flip here, so I'm going to lose some of you. I didn't know Charlie Kirk, never met that guy before in my life. And something else that I've never done before in my life is believe in God. I'm going to wear this suit to church. I'm going to go to church. I'm going to try to be a better father, husband and leader for my family.
Speaker 2:They deserve that. It's like Anthony recorded this.
Speaker 7:My phone fell down. I guess that's the devil trying to fuck me up or mess me up, right now, oh, poor guy, you know what? I'm going to try y'all. Look at this suit. I look good bro. It seems so genuine right.
Speaker 3:My wife made me feel this way.
Speaker 7:Charlie's made me feel this way.
Speaker 3:That was it. I think it's on repeat now, right, oh no.
Speaker 7:Message over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that seems so genuine man. It's interesting because when it's one of those it's not quite no atheist In the foxhole, but it's when Tragedy strikes it makes people think deeper, you know, and like when bad things happen, you know, you see something when you see evil. When you see evil and how real it is. A lot of people like see God because they see evil, like see God because they see evil.
Speaker 3:Like that that was one of the one of the best evangelical tools I had when some of the craziness of the trans movement was happening around us and we saw especially during the George Floyd riots and crap like that, like it was like the best tool for evangelization was to just point out the evil around us and and how they were actually trying to sanctify it. Like seeing them put halos over george floyd, like this degenerate drug addict, and how they, how they were actually trying to sanctify. That was one of the most bizarre things and people could see there was something so sacrilegious about it and sometimes seeing sacrilege makes you understand what actual sacred is. It's an interesting thing.
Speaker 2:There's still a store in our area that sells the RBG and George Floyd.
Speaker 3:Candle, like holy candles. Yeah, it's actually disgusting that they did that but that, but that's what they do. They mock the sacred, it's man, what is with what is with their desire to. And even even when they did that, remember when they did that event in New York City where all the celebrities dressed in papal tiaras and things like that? It was this weird thing in New York City. They did, and all the celebrities came dressed mocking Catholicism.
Speaker 3:It's always Catholicism. It's always Catholicism. It's never anything but Catholicism, because the imagery is so powerful in Catholicism and it goes to. It goes to like the power of the sacred image. You know, it's what it's why. It's why, when that artist wanted to make the most disgusting statement he could, he did the, the piss christ. Or they made the, the image of our lady with with cow dung, things like that, like it's not just to upset us, it's because they're so offended by holiness that they have to desecrate it.
Speaker 3:It's like, like if you say, if you say I man, I've seen this with conversations with with family members, my older brother in particular, if you even bring, because my in my mom's house, especially when we do family get togethers, like my mom's always talking about God. Like a lot of times she'll ask about the show. My brother Joey is is a very faithful Catholic. Like a lot of times she'll ask about the show. My brother Joey is a very faithful Catholic, like a few of my siblings are like devout Catholics. So we'll get together and we'll talk about something of the faith and my brother Dom can't even be in the presence of those conversations. Really it's a strange thing, like he can't even Like if we were talking about anything else. I mean, if you talk, if you're talking about something else that somebody doesn't believe in, if you're talking about Santa Claus or something people don't feel repelled and like compelled to walk away, but if you're talking about Jesus Christ in front of people who don't believe, I think it's offensive to their ears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean yeah, the name of Jesus man, my brain shot.
Speaker 3:Are you tweeting? Because you were tweeting yesterday on the gun show. I'll kill you if that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2:I was not tweeting. Pay attention to our conversation. I was not tweeting.
Speaker 3:I tweeted something yesterday when you were doing your gun show, and you responded to him like this is why you're not listening to me, are you kidding?
Speaker 2:the name of jesus pains demons.
Speaker 3:So I think those who are demonically oppressed um obsessed, you know whatever I but even if they're not rob, like even if they, even if they just don't believe I it's, I actually think it's that they do believe and it's like a cause of shame, yeah, it's a cause of shame, yeah, in them, you know.
Speaker 3:And, um, man, that's something deep that hits us, hits your psyche when you're, because I remember those times I was away from the sacraments, I couldn't bear to like listen to anything Like when, if you're in a state of mortal sin, that'll happen, if you're in a state of mortal sin, you won't be able to listen to like the things you normally do, you know, you won't be able to listen to podcasts about the faith, things like that, because there's this deep sense of shame, that kind of settles in with you. We have, we have a friend, rob, and I, rob, and I have a friend who disappeared from our group group chat recently and he disappeared for a few days and we were like what happened to him, you know? And he, like he came back and told us, like I, actually, you know, he, he, he told us about something he was going through in his life, but it had to do with mortal sin, and he said, like even being in the group chat with us was too painful for him, because it was a reminder of of God, essentially, you know. So there's something Darn it T of God essentially Darn it Taffy.
Speaker 2:What happened? Copyright strike on the video on YouTube, that's alright.
Speaker 3:Who cares? Does it affect the spread of the video? You think?
Speaker 2:They say no, but I wouldn't be surprised if yes you gotta watch the music, the music.
Speaker 3:Yeah, anthony will never add me to any group chat. So, chris, I'm not. Chris, stop, come on. You know I love you, bud.
Speaker 2:Sometimes distance makes the fondness grow.
Speaker 3:You don't want to be in a group chat with me? Believe me, Chris, you really don't. I'm sorry for the coughing guys. Yeah, there's, there's.
Speaker 3:When you fall into mortal sin, it doesn't just darken your intellect, it makes this deep sense of shame where you can't be around anything sacred. I would even avoid phone calls with my mom, Because my mom would always call me and she'd just talk to me about God. My mom calls me randomly and just asks me how's your prayer life going? She'll do that and she'll just tell me all the time she's like Anthony, you don't understand. If you stop praying, your relationship with God can't continue if you stop Like. My mom is constantly reminding me of that stuff. So there, there were periods when I was going through that where I wouldn't even answer my phone. I saw her name come up and I would just I'd shoot her a text and be like oh, I'm a little busy right now and just avoid the conversation with her. Um, I actually uh, being a group chat with anthony must be constant updates on his twitter progress I don't, I don't typically.
Speaker 2:No, that's. That's a group chat with jason from text.
Speaker 3:Yeah I don't typically send my I I don't. I don't know if my I don't't like when Chris sends me his tweets. Let's put it that way If your tweet's good, I'll see it and I'll retweet it. You don't need to send it to me. I think that's.
Speaker 2:But, Chris, you're not the only one that does it. No.
Speaker 3:I'm just using you as a punching bag. Right now, a lot of people do. Joshua Charles does it to me all the time, sends me his tweets. Like Everyone does it as a punching bag. Right now, a lot of people do. Joshua Charles does it to me all the time, sends me his tweets Like dude, if I like your tweet, I'm going to retweet it. You don't have to send me your tweet. It's also well, because I have a lot of followers. People want to send me their tweets asking me to retweet it. Like, I understand why people do it, but it is is like I get a lot of dms and a lot of times I'll have 30 dms of people sending me their own tweets, and it's like if all I do is just retweet people's tweets all day, it's you know, I won't stop you from some of the things you do tweet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have my own things to tweet, my favorite part about.
Speaker 2:About the group chat we're talking about isn't the updates of what's happening on Twitter today from Jason. It's the updates of what happened on Twitter six weeks ago from Mark.
Speaker 3:From Mark. Yeah, mark's amazing. Mark is so behind on the news. He'll send us stuff from like four days, like we'll all be like having a conversation about something, and then four days later, mark will be like hey, you guys see this, it's like Mark.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised we didn't get a text a month ago telling us that a new pope was elected.
Speaker 3:No, you're going to get a text in two days from Mark about Charlie Kirk, you guys ever hear of Charlie. Kirk. You guys ever hear of Charlie Kirk? It's a crazy thing happened to him. Oh man, all right, what else we got in the folder?
Speaker 2:Pam Bondi, we did, we have the.
Speaker 3:Oh, do the 9mm thing? Government-induced schizophrenia, because that kind of ties into what we talked about earlier, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean just, it's hard with the tweets look so small, I have to make them bigger here or do you want to discuss Lofton? Let's do Lofton. We already did this let's do Lofton.
Speaker 3:Bring up Lofton's uh, his tweet. You have it anywhere? Yeah, I do. I do. Um, lofton's thing is actually hilarious, this idiot.
Speaker 2:So this is definitely christian wagner he's talking about, right I would assume mostly I, whether or not we're included in this. I don't know, but definitely I would know.
Speaker 3:We know what wagner did the other day was brutal, like if you guys did not see wagner's video, because here's what. Here's what it is what wagner did to him. Wagner didn't go about it the way we would have um like I, I always get get on Michael for how he's treated relationships and things like that. Wagner went into Lofton's psyche about how he is. So he, because of the way he set himself up under Francis um, just in opposition to, to everything that now that under Leoo because people are not oppositional to leo, michael lofton doesn't know what to do with himself. So he's being oppositional to him and going, going crazy over the lgbt stuff that's in there, or or um, he used to be like a zionist and now he's going crazy over the Gaza stuff, like he's turning into Mark Shea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, yeah, but not because he is a believer in anything, only because he the only thing he believes in is himself, and because of that he thinks he's this special person that sees everything you know, sees things that no one else does, and he's it. It's like a sense of like narcissistic, uh gnosticism, right, yeah, so anytime the main stream is doing one thing, he thinks he's special enough to have seen the real truth of it, and he's always going to go in a different direction. That's why he supported Francis when no one else did. It's narcissism.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he has this total oppositional approach to everything. Now he thinks he just always has to be oppositional. But loft, I mean Wagner then goes for the jugular and man then goes for the jugular, and man, I wish I had the actual full clip of why he brought it up. But he talks about Michael, michael's wife and man. You know what? I'm going to pull it up. I'm going to pull it up. I'm gonna pull it up because it's worth listening to well to me.
Speaker 2:So the video was very good and it wasn't just because, like it was a, a public um execution of lofton. Basically it was just very good, just because I think the points Wagner brought up apply to um can be applied to a lot of us, um one. I think a lot, a lot of us do suffer from a sort of narcissism in this digital age where we have so much information. We think we're smart enough to you figure out all these disparate pieces and put them all together and figure things out when you know we think no one else is seeing it. Um, so I think there is some truth to that.
Speaker 2:But my favorite part was when wagner was talking about was talking about um, and this was more due to the what, the actual charlie kirk situation, less about lofner. But how we have to, you know, our hope needs to be in god and we need to give up hope in in man, and to do that we have to. We have to consume the black pills over and over and over, to where we realize that the only thing we can really put hope in is in Christ.
Speaker 2:So that's the part of the video that I thought was very, very good.
Speaker 3:So part of what we were doing tonight on the stream because I don't know what's going on with the charlie kirk situation, right, like right part of what we were doing is, I knew rob disagreed with my position and you know so, you, a lot, of, a lot of times I'll have the tendency of, when somebody disagrees with me, I just go harder on my position and it gets oppositional.
Speaker 3:But sometimes Rob will say something and I think about it and I'm like, ok, all right, let me, let me take that perspective in, and I thought it would be a good idea for us to get on tonight and kind of go through those ideas and, and you know, like, take in, the like your, your approach to it and part of my, my worry is I think that's why a lot of us watch content creators too, because we, like, we're supposed to have this immediate opinion on something when you see something. And, yeah, everybody goes in for the hot take, right, and I don't always have a hot take on something, like, I don't always know right away, and I think that's okay, like you can wait to see, kind of, how things pan out, you can listen to a few different perspectives on it.
Speaker 2:I would say it's more than okay. I'd say that is proper in most cases.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I think man, okay, so when the Charlie Kirk thing happened we were in Detroit and my first like Charlie Kirk thing happened we were in Detroit and my first like I remember sitting there and I was so upset and I was like I just want to stream right now Like it was probably better that we had a day to sit on it and kind of digest those feelings, like it probably wouldn't have been a good idea to jump right on air and just start saying things, cause especially like that was, I was like going through a real grieving process with that whole thing. But I a big part of my worry about what's happening right now is I see a huge potential for things spiraling out of control and violence, violence happening, and I don't think most people think that can happen. But it's amazing how quickly things can spiral out of control. I watched this whole talk with this professor talking to these college students about the Charlie Kirk situation and he was trying to get the student. He was asking them like, like, what are you afraid of? Like, does this, does this event bring you any fear? And these college students are just so dumb that all they could think about was gun control.
Speaker 3:Like, like, no matter what he said, like he the one girl was like well, my fear is that somebody else will replace Charlie and continue his bad rhetoric. And that was her fear. It wasn't that the right will now retaliate against the left and then the left will retaliate against the right, and then that could. That could escalate into larger conflicts and that could eventually be like when when we saw the BLM riots happening conflicts. And that could eventually be like when when we saw the blm riots happening, or when you saw january 6th happening january 6th, while we all know it was a setup and it was all nonsense, like the, the imagery of everybody's rushing the capital, like that, there was potential for unrest in the country during that. During the blm rise, there was real potential for mass unrest, not just these maniacs burning cities for a day or two, but like them, marching into the suburbs, all it would have taken was that real mayhem?
Speaker 2:because remember there were suburbs that had, um, well, in a sense, fire teams like set up at, you know, on the outskirts of the suburb and stuff like ready for people to come and try to loot. Like all it would have taken was a group of black teenagers to try to do evil stuff in a suburb and get shot for it in the whole country would have burned more than it already did.
Speaker 3:Wasn't that kyle with uh? Kyle, rittenhouse like kyle rittenhouse that they were in. Was it Kenosha?
Speaker 2:Kenosha, Wisconsin, outside of Milwaukee.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was in Kenosha, kyle Rittenhouse. That wasn't a major city. Kyle Rittenhouse goes there and he's like I'm just going to protect my hometown.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even his hometown, his uncle's car dealership he wanted to protect. But things know, my hometown, it wasn't even his hometown, his uncle's um uncle's car dealership he wanted to protect but things can escalate very quick.
Speaker 3:The reason we don't think they can right now is because we don't typically escalate things on the right and it, and it's like when, when the left escalates things, the right tolerates it and they'll, they'll. The right will tolerate the left acting out to a degree, but what happens when the right finally snaps and they go that route, like that's when you're going to see a problem, and the charlie kirk situation had the potential to do that like people were? It still does. It still does. Tempers are cooling a little bit, the temperature is dying down a tiny bit, but it it. If you push the right to the point of violence, there's gonna be. This country's gonna be.
Speaker 2:It's um, the it's like a rubber band, right, you can pull it to the breaking point and let it go, and it didn't break then, but it lost some of its elasticity. Yeah, the next time you pull it it won't stretch as far. Yeah, you know, and eventually you keep doing that and eventually you're. It doesn't take much pulling at all for it to just snap yeah, that's that.
Speaker 3:and what's. What was so irking about the charlie situation was because he was going there and having like heartfelt conversation. He wasn't mistreating anybody, he wasn't going there. It's not like like what milo's about to do. Milo's a provocateur, milo goes there and he goes and like Milo's a crazy person sometimes Like he'll go and he'll light a fire on the people, especially now with this stuff, right.
Speaker 3:So where Charlie would actually go and try to have like actual conversations. So when they take somebody like him out, it's like, and all of that is because of the clipping stuff, right. So that's why I said, with the Candice thing too, we're seeing these two minute clips and segments of Candace and people have this image of Candace in their heads from seeing those clips but they're not actually listening to the substance of what she's saying, they're just hearing the two minute clip. And they did that to Charlie over and over again when he would kind of embarrass these leftists because their arguments are such trash. So it would look like he's being hateful and meanwhile he's just dismantling this ridiculous argument and they think he's there embarrassing people and humiliating them and he's full of bigotry and this and that it's.
Speaker 3:It's a very big danger in this Tik TOK culture, when people don't have the patience to sit down and listen to a long form conversation anymore. They just want to go in and see the highlight reel, they want to see those two-minute clips, things like that. And I think there is a very big potential for violence in this country and I think it'll happen when the right finally snaps. And I thought this situation was close.
Speaker 2:It was so, so powerful. I didn't see this as being the one that actually kicked things off. I saw this as being the one that my six-year-old is going to love what I'm about to say, but a lot of you guys it's going to be nerdy. But, um, a black hole has an event horizon, right and like. You can spin as long as you don't cross that event horizon. You can spin around that thing forever, but the second you get close enough to where you cross that event horizon, which is unseen, you don't know where that is. No matter what you do, you're not getting out of it. You might, it might, you might still spin around there for decades, centuries, but there's never any getting out of it, I think. I think this event was that event horizon yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, in some ways something previous even could have been. It like I think we're we're being sucked deeper in as time goes on, but this, yeah, this could have. This could be looked back on in the future as the, as the thing that was like the match that lit the tinderbox. Yeah, like what do you think if trump would have? If you think you think if trump would have actually been assassinated, that could have been that would have done it.
Speaker 2:That might, that might. I mean, I think that would probably not only have been like that event horizon. I think that like that could have been. Like you said, the match and lit the tinderbox, yeah, um, but I I don't see a way where we get out of it at this point. I think it's probably going to be a slow spiral and these things are going to become commonplace. And if you look at so many other situations over the last 100, 150 years, very rarely does a civil war just start. Yeah, very rarely does a civil war just start. Yeah, you know, I mean the american civil war is very weird in that sense that it was literally two separate militaries having, you know, actual line battles, things like that. Most civil wars you don't know when it's actually crossed into a civil war from just civil violence. You don't realize that until after the fact you don't know who the enemy is.
Speaker 3:The American civil war was actually bizarre because you had a dividing line between North and South. But like a civil war now wouldn't go like that. It's it. You know the way things are now. You're fighting with your, your family members in this war and neighbors.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's the Christian Mormon family who raised a gay trans kid who goes and fires. That's where this country is right now that you're going to have people that you considered loved ones taking the other. So this is going to be a heart wrenching one man and it's getting. It's escalating to that point and they're trying to heat the temperature up more. Like that's what I actually see from this whole thing. They're they're going to start off making it like it's just the trans thing. They're going to start off making it like it's just the trans thing, but you're going to get the bleeding heart liberals then siding with them because they have the victim mentality. It's going to get bigger and it's going to be more heated.
Speaker 2:The firings that are happening right now will be the cause of the next event. It's going to be someone who lost their job, or the relative of someone who lost their job. You know that that it's going to perform the next act of violence, and then the right will maybe ban um cross-sex hormones.
Speaker 3:Then it's going to be, you know, someone and we'll cheer that on because that's a good thing, and it is a good thing and we shouldn't not do it because of what it's going to cause.
Speaker 2:But you have to be aware that then someone who had their hormones taken away from them and was already crazy, and then they got crazier because of hormones and then they get even crazier because they get them taken away is they're going to perform the next act of violence and then the right will do something non-violent in response. Like this is how it's going to work and it's going to be a spiral for a year, two years, five years, ten years, I don't know, but it's going to eventually just be daily life something going on with the younger generation that didn't happen with ours, where, like we're like the last generation, the millennials are like the last generation that were fed the, the, the, the feminist bs.
Speaker 3:Like chris just said, um, um, um, chris actually made a good point. He said uh, I'm not joking when I say that. Something recently clicked in my brain where I see things differently when it comes to women online. Y'all ain't ready for a millennial education system. Brainwashing is over. Um, yeah, chris, you're not there yet. But, like the younger generation, like I see, I see how disgusted the younger guys are with the typical feminist. I feel that, and I'm older and I went through the brainwashing and I still feel that, but these younger guys have just had it.
Speaker 2:And that's going to, that's probably the most dangerous aspect is that the most divided generation, the most divided group of people is the youngest generation. The most divided group of people is the youngest and it is the. The young men, you know that generally don't are less prudent, less able to control themselves. I mean, there's a reason why, you know, I was so, you know, revving to get into the military after 9-11. Right, you know, it's just the nature of things, and and you have a generation that's so incredibly divided to the where there is no moderate group at all you look back to.
Speaker 3:I mean, we weren't alive for it. But when jfk was assassinated, my dad told me like he came from a very conservative family growing up but his mother was weeping when JFK was assassinated, right, there was. There was something that the country united around seeing their president shot. Um, even even when you know you, you had Martin Luther King was shot, like the whole country kind of mourned the death of Martin Luther King. It wasn't this. There was no Republicans taking joy and glee in that figure being killed, where this and then and then for us it was nine 11. Like when nine 11 happened, the whole country came together. We mourned as a country together. It united us. Even if it was for a short period of time, even if it was just nostalgic and there was nothing of substance to it. It still brought the country together and we were able to unite around something common.
Speaker 3:This event happened and, man, I'm just, I think we've all known it for a while, but there was something so inherently evil about the glee these people took in this that man, we're just at a breaking point now and I think I think there will that will inspire somebody else to go because they see how powerful it was to forget the political action, forget the politicians.
Speaker 3:It's, it's these figures like charlie kirk and matt walsh and michael knowles, and these people that are the big political spokesmen. It's more powerful to, like image wise, to take one of them out than it is to get a politician, because, yeah, regardless of what aOC actually votes for into law or these people, they don't actually do anything. They're just kind of like puppets. But the people, the spokesmen for the movement, it's way more impactful when you take one of them out. So I really do think every conservative talking head needs to be careful, including us. I mean, I know we're small, we're very small, but the bigger you get, the bigger the target comes on you and you know these guys. A lot of these guys are going to church and it's kind of known where they go to church and stuff and it's you know.
Speaker 2:You can predict where somebody's going to be on sunday when they're going to mass you know, and it's also one of those things we have to keep in mind um, as democratized, in a sense of the media landscape has become because of the internet and podcasts and things like that, like, um, as big as charlie was, he wasn't as big of a it wasn't as controversial. There's really no singular presence in any field anymore. You don't have huge pop stars anymore. You have Taylor Swift and then that's really it, because there's so much music available.
Speaker 3:Everything's diluted.
Speaker 2:Right, everything's diluted.
Speaker 3:It's not surprising that one of the bigger ones was the first target, right, but yeah, eventually it is going to reach into to smaller people with smaller audiences you kind of have to scale down and but, and it's going to be the people who have their easier access to right, because all the big guys are going to ramp up their security and they're going to be prepared for stuff like this, but it's going to be the smaller guys that are going to be open season on man. Man, we're heading into dark, dark times, I don't know. I mean, I said the world will be at war before Trump's term. We're not even a year.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh term. You're gone. You're gonna try to make your stuff look right again I'm just.
Speaker 3:We're not even a year into trump's term and maybe the world won't be at war, but america might be at war yeah like I don't see how this powder keg doesn't blow soon.
Speaker 3:People hate each other and it's not just online anymore, you're seeing it. I mean with the violence in the state, dude, the way they have, the way they have like flooded the country with immigrants. There is no american identity anymore. So you see them like floating around, like matt wall's been popular, like what is an american? What is an american? And like you think nothing of that. But what is an american? At this point, you have so many different groups protesting with their national flag from where they're originally from. Now you have these ghettos coming.
Speaker 3:The irony of this coming from an italian well, it's not like it was back then, though, like the like the is, there was something about the immigrants that came in during the time of Ellis Island, where they wanted to assimilate. My ancestors, my ancestors, like my great grandfather, wouldn't allow Italian to be spoken in the home because he wanted his kids to speak English around him, because he wanted to learn English. You know, he couldn't wait to become American. It was this like there was something so they were so proud of to be an American when they came here, and there's there is no American pride anymore in or anything to even aim towards. It's like these people want to come into our country and remain their own nationality inside our country, so it's a legit invasion. There's nothing that unites us all anymore. There's no faith, there's no culture, no nothing. So I don't see how that doesn't turn to violence. It's going to be like a civil war in the Middle East eventually, because you have the country's flooded with muslims at this point and they hate america.
Speaker 2:I don't did you hear um hear see what happened in uh dearborn, michigan, today no so, um, there was a so dearborn michigan, um is one of the the cities of michigan that is like almost is almost majority Mohammedan at this point. So the mayor is a Mohammedan. I saw that. I forget. What are they trying to do? I'm not sure, but some just normal white guy from Michigan was there, more or less, you know, complaining about whatever they're trying to implement, whatever Muslim thing they're trying to implement, and the mayor just called him an Islamophobe and told him to get out, basically in Dearborn.
Speaker 3:It's crazy. I bet if you just type in Dearborn, michigan on Twitter, you'll find it, because that clip is actually outrageous. I saw it on YouTube. Maybe Dearborn.
Speaker 2:Michigan. Yeah, I got it. Pull that clip up. They're naming a street after a member of Hezbollah. So some guy is just not complaining, but you know expressing concern over naming a street after a member of Hezbollah, and this is what happens here.
Speaker 6:I mean Hezbollah bombed the volume in Beirut. Can you guys not hear that?
Speaker 3:I can barely. Why does your volume keep going down?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 6:I mean Hezbollah, you know, bombed the embassy in Beirut, including many Americans. So I just feel it's quite inappropriate. You are an.
Speaker 2:Islamophobe and although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you are not welcome here, and the day you move out of the city will be the day that I launch a parade celebrating the fact that you moved out of the city, because you are not somebody who believes in coexistence.
Speaker 3:The irony of that statement. Someone who believes in coexistence, like this, is who we've let in our country. Do you guys have any idea how bad this is going to be like? At first, we think we have it bad Europe. Europe is done, like at least America is like there's. It's so big and vast, so you might get these pockets of this stuff popping up. But Europe is when the Muslims decide it's on big and vast, so you might get these pockets of this stuff popping up, but Europe is when the Muslims decide it's on. They're done.
Speaker 2:So last week, as you all know, we were in Detroit and we've mentioned Brian Holdsworth's name a few times already, so that comes as no surprise. So, brian, did we pick him up from the airport or did someone else came later?
Speaker 3:right a few hours after I just got him.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah. So he shows up at the, the hotel slash resort, and there is um a huge american flag being flown on front, um, for those of you in the midwest, uh, like menard size flag, not like gander mountain size flag, but anyway. So it's a big flag, but not ginormous. And he, he gets out of the car and he's in aunt and I are there and he goes does everyone fly american flags like that in america? I'm like, yeah, that's not especially large, and that just took him by surprise. Yeah, and that this is canada, let alone like in england right now, the government is tearing down the flag of england when people are putting it up because they see it as a protest against the english, somehow, I don't know bizarre.
Speaker 3:So people are hanging those saint george flags. People are just putting saint george flags up everywhere and you say, and you want to know who's tearing them down? As white english liberals, yeah, or tearing them. It's the weirdest thing, man. It's going to look they'll there will be pockets of violence throughout the us, but it won't be, you know you won't be, ubiquitous throughout the country?
Speaker 2:I don't think I don't know what do you mean If the Mohammedans rally up?
Speaker 3:Yeah, if the Mohammedans rally up, because there's just not enough of them throughout the country.
Speaker 2:But if we're talking ideological civil war that will be everywhere yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and those of you who are more in rural areas will be much more safe.
Speaker 2:I didn't move here thinking I would get away completely from the problem. I just moved here. So instead of having to deal with a thousand enemies in a few mile radius, I have 20 enemies to deal with in a few mile radius. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like if those riots in New York City had spread to the suburbs, it would have been a problem on Long Island. You know it would have been a problem in Westchester. It's just a matter of where those things start to spread to, and you know. So I'm glad I got my boat back. My boat's coming back in a couple of days. I'm going to have a way off the island. I'll drive down to Virginia.
Speaker 2:I'll have Bobby pick me up on the coast.
Speaker 4:I thought you were the one with the boat Huh.
Speaker 2:No, I'll drive my boat down the coast.
Speaker 3:You'll pick Bobby up on the coast. Bobby will pick me up on the boat. Bobby's down in West Virginia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 3:So pick me up on the boat Bobby's down in West Virginia. Yeah, I know that. So I'll take my boat from Long Island, I'll head south and Bobby will pick me up on the coast.
Speaker 2:And then you guys will make your way to Minnesota, and then we'll make our way out west.
Speaker 3:Okay, we'll hit the Oregon Trail. The Oregon Trail, well, you know we'll go west. Westward bound. Fido goes west. I'm going to see Bobby this, uh, this weekend we're, uh, he's coming up to my uncle's house for the farewell. Farewell, bobby. You're going to wind up going home with some goodies. Dude, that house has to get cleaned out Like anything. We see that that's there you could take home. So come, come with an empty pickup. I know you got a pickup truck, bring it empty If you need furniture. There's going to be furniture to take out of there. It's going to be like a clearinghouse. Alright, I think we did enough tonight, right, almost 10 o'clock, almost two hours. Yeah, should we get a guest for?
Speaker 2:Thursday Should we get a guest and talk about jesus?
Speaker 3:so your brother gets off your back. Yeah, um, so the I do. I am going to be going in early friday um. Is there any way you could do a seven o'clock show thursday? Well, seven eastern. Do you do an hour earlier? So we could, so we can get off a little earlier.
Speaker 3:I got to go into work at like 2 pm, I mean 2 am. I got to leave my house at 2 am. I'm going to have very little sleep If we could move the show to an hour earlier, just for the night. That would be huge for me.
Speaker 2:I'll give you an hour earlier.
Speaker 3:Okay, just for the night. I won't make you switch the schedule like that. But uh, anthony, is your idea to do a show talking about saints still on the table? Yeah, I was sweet, didn't we? Yeah, we talked, like in general, about the saints. I'd like to zero in on a saint. Um, we should pick a saint and, uh, like one that one's a little obscure but amazing, like on the saint anthony of padua or something like some.
Speaker 2:I don't know. There's a lot of good ones um, ones that have been forgotten. You ever hear saint hubert? I have heard of him, so yeah, he's most no german, I think actually german, or even friend, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Um, he's most known as the patron saint of hunting, but his story is interesting because he was a hunter like, like that's what he loved. Well, he was a nobleman, right, but his favorite pastime was was hunting, and he would often miss mass because of it. It was just generally not not a great person, but then on a Sunday, as he was missing mass to go hunting, a stag appeared to him with a cross in between the antlers and he actually gave up not only just hunting but eating meat for the rest of his life and became a monk and eventually a bishop. After that, there's lots of, there's lots of just you know, unknown saints like that, and and I think that story from the is from the golden legend where are we?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's what we'll do, maybe we'll do. Maybe we'll do a series on the, on the golden legend. We will put, like we'll pick a story from the golden legend, like we'll go through one that's been forgotten to the test of time or whatever yeah man, I wish we had bishops like that now, man, alright, we're gonna wrap this one up. Guys, always fun hanging with you. Guys, I don't know, what I would do without this show.
Speaker 2:I'm scared to check Twitter.
Speaker 3:Somebody wrote in a comment Anthony, I'm getting tired of this high degree of silliness. I think I'll switch over to watch Tucker. Candace does not deserve this scrutiny.
Speaker 2:It's because we said something about their favorite person, but I didn't scrutinize candace.
Speaker 3:We said something good. What do you mean? She's brilliant, heart of gold. I love you guys, but I'm tired of ridiculousness. Candace is so brilliant. I'm getting more upset with you two as I'm listening. Did we say anything negative about candace?
Speaker 2:I'm sure I said some snarky remarks at some point, but like no, I don't think so.
Speaker 3:I don't think. I thought I was very respectful of candace um.
Speaker 2:Mrs casey says your tweet is actually getting a good response so far.
Speaker 3:Um this is. This is so weird. I can't. I don't understand why somebody would write that do.
Speaker 2:We want to restart Faith in Film.
Speaker 3:If we do, we would probably do it on Rumble, right? Yeah, like we could do it on Rumble and then send it and we could put the like, so we could do it. Live with everybody. We would do it live on Rumble and Locals and then put the and then put it out on Twitter, on YouTube, later and then I would upload it to YouTube. Put it through copyright.
Speaker 2:They would hit us with copyright While it was unlisted. I'd appeal it. Win the appeal. It takes probably a week to go through all that and then it could go live on YouTube.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'd have to come up with a new list of movies to do. I'm baffled by that comment. I thought I was very respectful to Candace. I'll have to reply to Ann. All right, we'll wrap this one up. I'll have to reply to Ann. We'll see how that goes. I'll check my tweet when I get off. We'll see how it goes. I'll check my tweet when I get on. We'll see how it goes. Alright, guys, wait what? My cousin doesn't like the.
Speaker 2:Eddie. No a different cousin Doesn't like the tweet.
Speaker 3:He clearly doesn't understand the tweet.
Speaker 2:What is he saying?
Speaker 3:First off, why don't they? I'm not going to read it on there, we'll do it after All. Right, we'll hop off, thank you.
