Getting Started: Self Reliance & Resiliency - Guns N' Rosaries Ep. 1

In this inaugural episode of a new weekly series, Rob returns from paternity leave to join Adrian, a Marine veteran and experienced homesteader, to create something long overdue in the firearms and preparedness community: family-friendly content that doesn't compromise on substance or Catholic morals.

The hosts dive into the foundations of self-reliance, beginning with the critical importance of establishing daily discipline as the cornerstone of all preparedness efforts. Adrian shares insights from his military background and current homesteading lifestyle, emphasizing how early morning routines create space for prayer, physical fitness, and productivity before the demands of family life take over.

Food and water preparation take center stage as the pair discuss practical approaches to building security without breaking the bank. From incrementally building a three-month food supply to understanding water storage requirements beyond the bare minimum FEMA recommendations, listeners gain actionable advice they can implement immediately. Adrian's experience raising livestock and growing food provides real-world context to these discussions, offering inspiration for those looking to move beyond mere storage toward sustainable production.

What sets this conversation apart is its balanced approach to security. While firearms receive thoughtful consideration, the hosts emphasize that physical self-defense skills must precede weapons training, challenging common misconceptions in the preparedness community. Their PACE (Primary, Alternate, Contingency, Emergency) communications planning framework provides families with a structured approach to staying connected during disruptions of any scale.

Whether you're just beginning to think about preparedness or looking to refine your existing plans, this episode offers a refreshingly grounded, faith-compatible perspective on building family resilience in uncertain times. Subscribe now and join a growing community of listeners committed to responsible self-reliance without the fear-mongering or compromised values so common in firearms and prepper content.

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to the New Show
• 10:02 Establishing Daily Discipline
• 20:26 Food Needs and Emergency Supply
• 29:53 Water Preparation and Storage
• 37:29 Communications Planning with Family
• 46:33 Firearms Selection and Training
• 1:08:45 Advice on Physical Self-Defense
• 1:16:05 Night Vision and Hunting Discussion
• 1:26:44 Closing Thoughts and Q&A

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:00

The middle children of history man, no purpose or place.

Speaker 1: 0:05

You have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. What's up everyone? Welcome to this new little show that we decided to do here. This is a New York Italian free zone, at least for tonight, so hopefully you've all had enough of Anthony and you're all ready to have me back after the birth of my fourth child, my fourth child. So yeah, I figured we'd ease back into things by doing this tonight before I get to have to deal with Anthony, but anyways. So my co-host tonight and for this new, hopefully weekly show is Adrian. So, adrian, why don't you introduce yourself?

Speaker 3: 1:23

introduce yourself. I'm Adrian. I'm on X's, guns and Rosaries. I actually got with Rob about this doing a show a while ago. This has kind of been in the works for a couple of months. I'm just waiting for schedules to hammer out. The purpose of this is really the onus of wanting to do this show is there is a dearth of good Catholic content out there.

Speaker 3: 1:49

Regarding, you know gun to not that I'm a gun to remember, but you know just some good information out there for us misunderstood about some of the topics that you know that are important to me, and you know just kind of where I come from. I used to. I did eight years in the Marines, did a couple of combat deployments. After the Marines I got out and I was a firefighter for a while and then I've moved on to more of an office job now, which is happens when you have four kids, um, it's really easier to handle. Those 24 48s in the fire department were rough on the kids. So maybe one day I'll tell you all.

Speaker 3: 2:35

The reason I got away from the fire department was actually because of one of my kids, but um got away from that and now we live in a homestead. We've got cows and pigs and chickens. Um, you know, and I'm in fact, I had to move my. I had my wife move over my cows earlier so I can um milk them in the morning before, because tomorrow, tomorrow's voting day, down here in alabama, we're voting for our mayor here in this little town I live in, um, so I you know you gotta wake up early get that stuff done.

Speaker 3: 3:03

But yeah, I just the purpose of this and the reason that we talked about doing this was we want you, we want to share the knowledge we have, but I foresaw more of this being a platform for people to get together and ask questions and, you know, put things out, because I am sure there are some of you out there that have way more knowledge in a lot of topics than I do. I know a little bit about a lot of things and I know a lot a bit about a couple of things, and the goal here is just to really be a community and to be able to share knowledge amongst each other. That way we can help each other out, because the less we are reliant on other people, the better off we can be and the more we can provide for other people when in you know the abundance that we may have.

Speaker 1: 3:50

Yeah, you know, for me, like I really have no professional experience with firearms, um, you know, with emergent emergency prep, anything like that, I'm really just kind of an enthusiast. And for me when I went to, you know, look for more information, I always found there was. There were like two sides, you know, especially to like so-called gun tube.

Speaker 1: 4:16

You'd have on one side you'd have someone like Brandon Herrera, which I enjoy watching, you know, I enjoy his stuff, but you're going to get at least three or four GDs during the show and a lot of cursing, swearing and it's something as a 30-some-year-old man like yeah, I can handle that, but I don't want my kids in the room, things like that. And on the other side of it you'd have someone like John Lovell of Warrior Poet Society, which is going to be family friendly for stuff on emergency prep, things like that. So I figured, why don't we kind of create it ourselves? And, like I said, I'm no expert. You know way more than me, but hopefully, like you said, we can find some real experts to come on and help people with stuff.

Speaker 3: 5:21

And, to be honest, the biggest benefit I bring is I know a lot of people and I can bring a lot of guys in. That can bring is I know a lot of people and I can bring a lot of guys in that can really, um, educate us on a lot of things, um, and really give us better insight into some aspects. You know, and one thing that we've seen lately as well is, um, you know, a lot of veterans are held up on a pedestal when they shouldn't be. Um, you know, tim Kennedy veterans are held up on a pedestal when they shouldn't be. Um, you know, tim Kennedy said and just, I mean, the man was already in in in a very elite unit and he felt the need to uh, even embellish that.

Speaker 3: 5:54

And then now recently I don't know if you saw this, but uh, uh, mcphee Shrek basically came out and found out that he's just a terrible human being. You know, and, and so this is really the goal for this is to be just a better place for us. You don't have to worry about if your kids do watch it, right, you need to learn about yourself. You know that you don't have to worry about as having to censor anything for some of this information we give out, and so you know, from there it's just a matter of bringing on some subject matter experts, as we call this, you know, to be able to help us out.

Speaker 1: 6:34

But yeah, Go ahead. What do you foresee you know, like this show. What do you foresee us talking about just in general, week to week on this?

Speaker 3: 6:47

show. Um, I so like, specifically like for tonight, we're going to do some wave tops over some things. We're not going to go into depth on and anything too much. But from here, you know getting into things like, um, you know what are some some. You know self-reliance, that you know most people don't think about. You know, like, one of them is a friend of mine, mike Shelby, who runs Forward Observer. You know setting up an area of intelligence and knowing what's around you, right, because you know, until you get outside the fog of war, to use some nomenclature but, um, until you understand what the threats are around, you don't know what you have to prepare for. Right is one aspect um, we'll get into some guns, right, we'll get into that kind of stuff and we've all got our opinions about them. I say we have our 320 fans already in the chat. Um, you know, we'll get into that. We'll get into what our the thing is like when I I used to, I used to teach, you know, fire strength to a bunch of people when I lived in georgia, and it was just like on the side, just that you know as free, as like a community thing, right, and um, the first thing I always told everybody is look, what I tell you is just one way to do it.

Speaker 3: 7:58

Right, you should be going out and getting a whole lot more information other than what I give you, because what works for me may not work for you. Right, like, for instance, on my EDC I carry appendix. Some guys are too big to do that, some guys are too bony to do that. Right, you know. Just, you have to figure out what's good for you. So you know, as the weeks come on and we and we'll be responding to some stuff as well, and you know we might be responding to some stuff as well and we might respond to some things that happen and we might bring on some guys who aren't Catholic. You have some good information on some things as well. Just know, this is more or less going to be an information sharing event, and sometimes it's going to be me learning just as much as you just as much as you.

Speaker 1: 8:48

Yeah, I um, like you said it, it's not going to necessarily be like explicitly, uh, a catholic show, it's just we hope it to be a show safe for catholics more than anything so we will have.

Speaker 1: 8:56

You know, like I would have john level on if we were to ever get him, I'd have no problem with that, as long as we didn't talk about Israel, or theology, or theology. Yeah, exactly, okay. So this is going to be way. For those of you used to avoiding Babylon, this is going to be very different, because Adrian wrote an outline.

Speaker 3: 9:20

Yeah. I actually was prepared prior to the day of. In fact, I sent it to Rob last week and he just texted me and he's taking on some of Anthony's characteristics. He texted me this morning. Where was those notes? Did you send me that link? So I had to resend him the link so he could look it up for today.

Speaker 1: 9:38

I had a child last week. Give me a break. You slept on a comfortable pull-up bed, that's true, way better than the chair way better moving on up.

Speaker 3: 9:49

Yeah, all right. So, uh, we'll go through these, uh, a few items, um, and we'll expound on as we go through them, but did we want to save time specifically at the end for questions.

Speaker 1: 10:01

Do we want to do those?

Speaker 3: 10:02

yeah, that's fine during the time at the end for questions. Okay, um, but so my first item is, you know, the to get started on self-reliance is, um, you have to establish some discipline, uh, you have to set up, uh, even it's just a little bit every day. You know like one thing that, um, you know I I've had to get back into cause, being out of the Marines for a while. You kind of lose some of it, um, but uh, one thing I had to get used to again is, especially since I have the homestead and that kind of helped was, uh, getting up early, right, like stop sleeping in and now, like, if I sleep into like six, 37 o'clock, like that's sleeping in now because I'm usually up at 5.30. Just establishing this, if you get up early. I've got four kids between young 5 to 12. Thank goodness my son actually sleeps in now because my son is full of joy all day. Every day he would get up at 5 o'clock in the morning and he would wear me out. I was like man, if I had to get up at four o'clock to skip before him, that's, that's unacceptable. We got to figure something out. Um, so getting up at five, five, 30, you know is what I do.

Speaker 3: 11:24

But like it's hard for me between work, homesteading, helping my wife and the kids when I am able, right, if she's not running around, you know doing all her stay at home, mom stuff, you know, educating the kids and all that. I don't have a whole lot of time for prayer, like it's maybe in the car, right, I've got some time, and then I'm trying to listen to podcasts. You know catch up on stuff, either for work or other things. So get it up in the morning and sitting, that time for prayer, uh, is the big thing. And or in reading, reading scripture specifically, if I can just read a chapter, I'm good. I don't get to that every day, but, um, you know, but if I do get it, and it'll be then and then working out um, I have to work out in the mornings, otherwise it does not happen. Um, the day gets going and I get too tired by the end of the day when I've actually got some time and I can't do it.

Speaker 1: 12:09

Yeah, as a father of kids older than mine. How, because I my sleep schedule has been blown to heck by children. Um, how did like, how did you get back into a normal sleep schedule?

Speaker 3: 12:24

did it just come as they kind of aged up, or uh, you're, you're, I envy you because you still can have kids like we. You know we're, we're past time where we can have any more kids. Yeah, um. But uh, I also don't envy you because you do let sleep um it. You know, we were blessed because our kids, at about six months, they started sleeping through the night, yeah, and then once they got through that, then we were pretty okay. And you know, I was getting at least six, seven hours um a night.

Speaker 3: 12:54

Now, when I was at the fire department and we had my first and my second um, you know, the the station I was at, I was not sleeping while I was there. I was, I was a medic, so I was running 24 hours the entire time, so I never had to sleep like other firefighters did. And when I came home I'd have to stay up because the kids are at school and I'd have to keep one with me at home, so we didn't use daycare and I might sleep eight hours every two days sometimes. And those are rough times. Those are seasons that you get through, right, and that's why it is I tell these young guys at our parish have kids. Young kids are a young man's game, right, I had our youngest when I was 38, and she wears me out still. Um, so it just, it's a matter of just getting through it and suffering through it and just being okay with it and just get sleep when you can yeah um, so what for you when you get up in the morning?

Speaker 3: 13:53

if you can get up before the kids are, is that a time that you like to take care of certain things?

Speaker 1: 13:58

yeah, uh, for instance, I mean, so I have a day job besides, you know, doing everything for the podcast. So I find that the morning, before anyone else wakes up and before I go to work for my day job, is when I can get stuff done for the podcast, like setting up the shows, creating the thumbnails, uh, uploading the audio to the audio podcast stuff like that. But yeah, I, you, I need to get up earlier than that too, like you said to to do private prayer and uh and work out too well and like even just working, if you're just like walking for 30 minutes, right?

Speaker 3: 14:40

so some of y'all that you know in the chat that might not be like I just don't have time to go to the gym. I get that. Like you know, there are the chat that might not be like I just don't have time to go to the gym. I get that. Like you know, there are things you can do that aren't like I'm not in the best shape either. Right, I've got some injuries and stuff in the Marine Corps that I've got back issues and stuff, so I can't do certain stuff for too long. I've been able to. I'm healed enough. A you haven't been lifting for a while and you were dead lifting 405 and now you gotta drop down to 150 because your back is killing you right like that, that'll humble you real quick.

Speaker 3: 15:11

but, um, you know, but just doing something like we have a circular driveway, that that's uphill half of it, half the time, um, and I'll just walk that sometimes and if I need to, I'll throw a pack on my back if I don't need a little bit extra, and I'll just walk that sometimes and if I need to, I'll throw a pack on my back if I need a little bit extra, and I'll do that for 30 minutes and that'll be it. Um, you know, I just got to get in what you can, um, and then, as time goes on and you know, you're able to add in a little bit more. Or you got kids and you run around with them.

Speaker 1: 15:35

that's exercise too, you know, kids are definitely exercise. Yeah for sure All right.

Speaker 3: 15:42

So the next one is gathering information on the food needs of your family. So the first thing is establishing discipline, because you have to establish discipline as the basis and that helps flesh out everything else. That gives you the assistance to be able to have that foundation to establish other aspects in this. Food is going to be the one thing that everyone needs to work on more, even myself, even though, like I don't buy meat, I raise all my own meat. Now we have pigs, we have chickens. I've got meat chickens coming in the next week. I'll be raising them for about eight, nine weeks and then we'll process them and we'll have them.

Speaker 3: 16:24

But still there are things that, like my kids don't eat right and so and that's frustrating, you know, having kids that won't eat the food you put in front of them. But when kids don't eat right because they don't have any food for whatever reasons, like if you ever go on a long road trip and your kids are hungry, they are a terror, they're whiny and it just grates on you Having food set aside for those leaner times, the big thing I always advise guys, look every time you go to the grocery store, buy a little bit more and put it away Some non-perishables. If you're buying creamed corn because you like creamed corn we're in the South, we love our creamed corn, right, well, I do my kids I might buy an extra can and then put that away right and slowly build it up. The goal is to get to three months. You get to three months eventually. Then you can weather a lot of things.

Speaker 3: 17:21

Um, you know and, and then you know. From there you try and get to six months and then maybe a year. You know, because if you've got a year worth of food and you lose your job, right, for whatever reason, you don't have to worry about groceries for a year. That's one thing you don't. At least you're eating.

Speaker 3: 17:36

That's true, you know, if you've got enough food put away, then you don't have to worry about. Hey, covid hit and we couldn't go to the grocery store for a while, right, and when you did go, you couldn't get anything that you liked. So now your kids are having to eat ramen noodles, you know, because that was the only thing that was left. Um, whatever it is, if you have those things put away, um, you can do those things. Now the goal is to eventually raise your food. If you can, you can do it in an apartment. There's all kinds of channels out there that will show you how you can raise a bunch of food, even in an apartment. But if you can put some away for a while, uh, to give you that benefit, then that's going to be a whole lot. Take a whole lot off your plate yeah did you?

Speaker 3: 18:20

what do y'all do? Do you? Do you do any canning or any preserving, or do you just buy a bunch of food and hope you never eat it?

Speaker 1: 18:27

all. So we have kind of an emergency food supply of all your lovely Mormon-packed I forget the brand name, but the basically buckets of food along with. We like to go camping a lot, so we have a lot of freeze-dried camping food that we use for camping, but we also have on hand in case of emergency, and then I have a few cases of MREs too. So we definitely have probably six weeks worth of non-perishable shelf-stable food. The downside to a lot of it is the freeze-dried stuff. You need a fair amount of potable water to even prepare the food. You know potable water to to even prepare the food. So you know that's. One thing I'm always thinking about too is is how do we make sure we have a a safe water supply?

Speaker 3: 19:32

yeah, not just to drink but to cook with and things of that nature yeah, we uh and with this again to the next topic here in a second but we've had a lot of issues with our water supply in our town. Um, the water you know, forever going out for no reason. Like I wake up one morning, I can't take a shower because there's no water coming to the house, and that was a concern for us. So I started looking into um like rain catchment, um, or we had a well on our property. That was never, it was not working, and so we threw, you know, money into it to get it repaired and got it working. So now we have a well and our house is now run on the well and it's fantastic. If y'all have never tested your water that you get at home, you could, but you're not going to like it. The amount of chlorine that's in most municipal water supplies is more than most swimming pools yeah um, and it's just, it's horrible, but um, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3: 20:31

The other issue is getting enough water. You know, uh, fema, for the longest time advised, you know, at least one gallon per person per day, um, for up to two weeks, right? So if you've got a family of six, you need six gallons a day. Is that 42 a week? You're looking at 84 gallons of need for two weeks, right? That's. You know, basically two 55-gallon drums that you could just fill up, right, and just be okay with and just keep throwing, you know, purifying tablets into it to keep it good for a while. But that's a short-term plan.

Speaker 1: 21:07

And that's a short term plan and that's a that's not a lot of water per day either like that, barely, you know, fulfills your your hydration needs, let alone what you might need, what other things you might need water for yeah, if you're, if your power goes out in the winter up in minnesota, right, and you've got to gather shoveling snow, right you're gonna be burning a lot of calories, yeah, you're gonna.

Speaker 3: 21:22

Even though it's cold, you're gonna need a right, you're going to be burning a lot of calories. Yeah, even though it's cold, you're going to need a lot of water because you're going to be burning a lot, especially if you're sweating out there and then you start shivering, it makes it even worse, right?

Speaker 2: 21:33

So a gallon a day is not a lot.

Speaker 3: 21:34

No, that's basically just drinking water and your baby wiping it, right, there's no baths going on, right so it. But the goal would be to try to get to three gallons of water per person per day for a while again. 55 gallon drums work great, you can buy, and, um, you know the. You can get a pump that goes into them so you can pump the water out of it. Yeah, um, and, and those are called bung holes, and that is the the proper term for them, the bung hole, um, and sounds like a term a marine made up, but you would think it's a the bunghole pump and um, that way you can pump out the water when you need it.

Speaker 3: 22:13

But if you live in an apartment, right, it's gonna be hard to have two 55 gallon drums um to be able to put anywhere. Right, because you just that's a lot of weight, you know. Eight gallon, eight pounds per gallon, right, you're looking at least 400 pounds each. Right, looking at almost a thousand pounds of water having to hold up um, so that that's gonna be a hard ass. You might need to to figure some stuff out. You know, maybe get some. They make water bricks you can fit, like under the bed, you can do those, oh, interesting Like a big flat sort of container to spread out the way they can be.

Speaker 3: 22:51

So they come in like one-gallon or two-gallon sizes and they kind of click together like Legos. Okay, so they can stack on top of each other and you can do them out whatever. And they've got like a little cap on one other and you can do them out whatever and you can, and they've got like a little, you know, a cap on one end so you can pour it out. So I've seen some guys that they'll have like a coat closet that is full of water or just just a stackable water. But you know, the other aspect is, you know what?

Speaker 3: 23:19

If your water goes bad and, like your, your water is not getting purified before it gets to you, there's a break in the line or something. You gotta have some way to clean it. Yeah, you know boiling it. You know it's great, it gets rid of viruses and stuff, but it doesn't get rid of everything, doesn't get rid of chemicals at all, not at all. So you might have to filter. If you've got like a berkey or something you know, or you can make your own berkey. Um, it's cheaper, right, and then you know how to do it.

Speaker 1: 23:43

But berkey is real easy to just buy on amazon, but it's it's expensive but yeah, they are spending and I mean there's lots of other, um other solutions too. You know I live in an area that's uh super big on uh canoeing and camping and hiking and things like that. So you know you walk in almost any store up here and they have the life straws and other you know water purification sort of methods. So I mean there are lots of different ways to go about it.

Speaker 3: 24:18

We have here, so we have the well right for our primary source. But if that ever goes out, I'm probably like a mile away from a river, um, and so I could just, you know, up in there and get water if I need to then bring it back home, um, there, you know, I've got ways to, you know, purify it. You know whether it be chemical. I've got purification tablets or whatever.

Speaker 1: 24:39

Yeah, but uh, they so I saw, I heard this too.

Speaker 3: 24:45

So the issue with Berkey and the and the information may have changed since the last couple of years, but the issue with Berkey was their filters were filtering out bugs, so the FDA required them to register as a pesticide, and they would not do it, and they were trying to fight the FDA on it, and so eventually they kind of had to rename and rebrand. So there's another company now that sells the exact same thing. You had to be careful not to buy them on Amazon, though, because Chinese companies you know, basically you know steal everything, and they steal how to. You know the capability of making the filters, and they're not as good, um, but Borox is the new name, b O R O U X, and this is uh, it's the same. Um, it's okay.

Speaker 3: 25:38

Uh, you also, you still have to get like a um chlorine filter for them, cause the filters won't filter out chlorine. You have to get a chlorine filter for them, because the filters won't filter out chlorine. You have to get a chlorine filter as well if you want to filter out the chlorine and fluoride. Um, but they're better than nothing, is what it comes down to. So if you can get something just to filter your water, you can make them. There's youtube channels on, you know, using stackable buckets with sand and you know activated charcoal and things like that. You can can make your own. You don't have to buy.

Speaker 1: 26:08

Yeah, that's one nice thing about where I live In the land of 10,000 lakes, there's ample water available. You need some way to purify it.

Speaker 3: 26:18

I got a question. Yeah, I heard that Thousand Island dressing was invented in Minnesota. Because y'all have a thousand likes and that makes sense because y'all are in the Midwest and y'all love your ranch in Thousand Island.

Speaker 1: 26:34

I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 3: 26:38

It would make sense.

Speaker 1: 26:39

It would. What's funny is in our area, I mean, people obviously still like use Thousand Island, but Russian dressing tends to be more common and popular and that's somewhat similar. But I don't know. I've not heard that story about Thousand Island.

Speaker 3: 26:59

I know y'all like your. Y'all don't call them what is it? Y'all call them hot plates. What do you call them, hot plates? What do you call them?

Speaker 1: 27:05

Hot dishes. What else would you call?

Speaker 3: 27:07

them. Look man, everything down here is Coke. I try not to get on everybody's things. What kind of Coke do you want? I'd like a Sprite, please. Local cultures.

Speaker 1: 27:24

Sure, there's tuna casserole. That's just a hot dish, right? Sure a casserole it's hard to describe. There's no such thing as tater tot casserole. That's stupid. It's tater tot hot dish.

Speaker 3: 27:41

Paul's trying to start a war with the Midwest there.

Speaker 1: 27:44

It's funny's, he's a minnesotan, is he?

Speaker 3: 27:48

is he not from minnesota? Is that the problem? Is he a transplant?

Speaker 1: 27:50

no, I he, I think he's. I think he's from minnesota. I don't like ranch either it's not good.

Speaker 3: 27:55

That is your, that is your heritage man. Where are you?

Speaker 1: 27:59

well, I'm not from wisconsin. Okay, give me a break you would never.

Speaker 3: 28:03

You would never hear me say I don't like moonshine, right, like that's, that's part of your hair. It's in your blood in the south right, like you'd never hear me say that ranch is not in my blood.

Speaker 1: 28:13

Okay, some guys ranches all their blood I don't, yeah, like I never understood the whole dip pizza in a ranch thing now I have tried that, that is, but I've eaten a lot of these, like if you eat tree like crayons you love your crayons.

Speaker 3: 28:30

I like the purple ones, the best purple especially dipped in ranch.

Speaker 1: 28:37

So well, uh, in case the world ends, make sure you have an ample ranch supply on hand, people look man, that's the biggest reason I have kids, because they have crayons galore.

Speaker 3: 28:45

So it gives me an excuse to buy more crayons I don't know where. They keep going, hun, they just disappear look, I can't be the only one eating them, apparently, they just keep disappearing. All right, so let's get into the next topic um a communications plan. So when I leave, so my office is like 25 miles away from my house.

Speaker 1: 29:10

Yeah, so man, mine is too.

Speaker 3: 29:12

Yeah, so and some things I've told my wife is you know, if something happens, do not leave the house, Right.

Speaker 3: 29:21

If some event happens, don't leave the house Stay home I will come home one way or the other, right, so I will be there eventually. Might take me a day or two, but I'll get there. Um, you know so. But she also knows, you know we, we keep in touch throughout the day, you know, as we should just see how things are going. She's asked me if I'm gonna be home in time for dinner. I don't, you know, have work or whatever.

Speaker 3: 29:44

Um, but those are just kind of the basics of keeping a communications plan. We used to go by what was called a PACE plan In my job. We used what's called a PACER plan. But a PACE plan is just having a primary means of communication, like a cell phone right, an alternate right. So if I can't get through to her on the cell phone, maybe text right. If I can't call her, I can text her Because text uses a whole lot less bandwidth than a phone call. Does A contingent? So if neither of those is working for whatever reason, a contingent might be email right.

Speaker 3: 30:21

And then an emergency. Like you know, we have radios we use when we we've got some land on the road from us for here. Um, when we go there. I tested out our radios over there and it'll reach everywhere on that land, um, and then actually get down the road quite a bit too. Um, you know, that could be an emergency route of communication if we when you say radios, you're not talking walkie-talkies, you mean like shortwave yeah, like shortwave, like I have um, I have some bow fangs right um, uh, that I use uh and it'll get.

Speaker 3: 30:50

You know, I just use gmrs channel, so like when you get into your ham radio um his brother joey. So when you get into like ham radio stuff, like you can't get your license. But there are some channels you can use and not have to have a license, really, um and so like, for instance, um gmrs, uh, you can use um, you can. You can pay a ten dollars for your whole family for like 10 years, I think it's what it's 10 or 8 years or so, um, and so there's like a, there's like nine or ten channels um the. You know, to tell you, the best resource for that um is uh at brushbeater brushbeaterstore um nc scout over there. He has a book called the gorilla's guide to balfang um and it's phenomenal, it'll it. I mean, it can even teach a marine how to use radios, right, um, and it just goes through everything but all I. So what I have on the radios around the house, like if I'm out milking the cows right I'll give a radio to the kids.

Speaker 3: 31:50

Uh, and, because I don't want my cell phone on me, um, I'll give a radio to the kids and so they can talk to me while I'm out there milking the cows, and it's on a it's on a channel that they can't change right, so they can just. They have a lot. They just know I just have to key it up, talk to dad and he'll hear me. Right, you know we'll use that. Or you know, in the Marines we used it.

Speaker 3: 32:17

We always had a guy in the front of the patrol who had a radio and the guy at the back of the patrol had a radio and we would talk to each other and one guy and the guy in the back usually was with, you know, the fire team leader, whoever, and he, his radio, could also reach base. So if we needed to call and support or whatever, um, we would do it from the back end guy. But our front man, our point man, is the guy that would you know, if he comes upon something, he's going to radio back to us letting know hey, there's something weird in the road up here, or whatever, um, and so, just and really the hardest thing with comms is, um, just getting used to using them and not like talking over each other. It's kind of like doing a podcast, right, like you try not to talk over each other all the time.

Speaker 1: 32:50

Radios is the same. Some people never learned that lesson, adrian, and this is a nice break for you. It really is.

Speaker 3: 33:00

I saw him on another show and like he just it was his show all of a sudden, wasn't it? Yeah, he just had to say something. I was like, man, this is their show, yeah, you're a guest and they want to hear what you had to say, but let them talk.

Speaker 1: 33:16

We might have to do an episode one day on the the boffing stuff, cause I did buy a couple and I did buy that, uh, the gorillas guide. But yeah, it would still be good to do a show on them so I can figure out how to use them.

Speaker 3: 33:29

They're, they're super easy, man, they're super easy and they're super easy to set up Um. And then you know, if you get into a point where you want to set up you know to be able to get longer distance stuff then you might want to get licensed for that. You don't have to. If you want to talk on it, you can, but you could set it up to talk long distance and never talk on it and just listen um and then when time comes, and like we're, in a situation of without rule of law.

Speaker 1: 33:53

Right yeah, fcc isn't gonna matter, no, right.

Speaker 3: 33:55

So you can key up anytime you want, you know so what?

Speaker 1: 33:59

what's the distance on them without, uh, you know, without, like, some of the repeaters and stuff like that?

Speaker 3: 34:05

so when we tested it at my property, we were getting about two miles on it okay, in sight, you know, through trees and everything. Um, you know not, we have down here in the south. We got trees everywhere, yeah, hills and everything. Right, I'm in the foothills of the appalachians, um, so we I was getting about two miles on it before they were broken and unreadable as we would say. Um, I couldn't hear him Right, my kids were like having a ball seeing how far they could get before they couldn't hear me anymore. But yeah, you can get about.

Speaker 3: 34:37

You can get a pair of bow things for like 50 bucks. You might even get them cheaper than that. Now you get a little one. Um, I don't have any in here right now, but, um, but I've got a bunch of them, man, I got one for every kid in case we need it.

Speaker 3: 34:51

Um, you know, I got a few for me. I got a few that are a little bit more durable. The next one it's called the ar-152 um and it looks like one of my old uh radios they use in the marines, but it's not right. But it's a lot more durable than other things. So if I'm out and it gets rained on, I'm not as concerned about it. Um, so it's just, it's just a matter of getting the stuff and then learning how to use it. You know, but you got to establish that communications plan because if you don't right and something happens and you you haven't set up something with your family and how to talk to them, they're going to be panicking and then they're going to start making bad decisions, because then they're now they're going to come get you and then you're going to try to get home and you're going to cross like two ships in the sea and not see each other, right? And then you're both going to be in a bad position.

Speaker 3: 35:41

All right, so let's get into the last topic, and this is gonna be everybody's favorite. All right. Before we get into that, though, uh, before we get into guns, um, if you cannot fight, you are worthless, right? If you don't know how to throw a punch and take a punch, it doesn't matter what kind of gun you have, right? Um, you, you need to learn some type of martial art. Whether it's boxing, I don't care. If it's jujitsu, um, I mean, even take krav maga, I don't care. Take something, uh, maybe not crap a guy little.

Speaker 3: 36:18

I mean, if it gets you out of the couch and you get to do something. You know how to throw a punch, you know. True, you're better off than the, than the guy posting on reddit, you know, wanting to well, I gotta be careful on youtube, um, but uh, anyway, you need to take some type of martial art and just to learn right, and even it's just to get to learn how to get punched in the face and not give up. Yeah, um, because that is the the biggest thing I like.

Speaker 3: 36:45

In Afghanistan, we were like twice the size of all the Afghanis, so, in, really, if we got in a fight with somebody, all we had to do is wrap our arms around them and fall down and it was over. Like they couldn't get up. Right, we were too heavy, we're too strong. They couldn't do anything. Um, you know, so it wasn't that hard. But you know, we live in America, where everybody eats meat every day and guys are a lot bigger here, right, so you need to be able to protect yourself, not just yourself, but your family, if your wife is getting harassed by a guy and you don't know how to settle that without bringing out a firearm, you're going to jail.

Speaker 3: 37:24

Yeah, you need options besides deadly force. Exactly, I mean, just learn a few things. I mean, just get a body bag and just learn how to throw punches. There's apps on your phone that will tell you cadences on left, right, left hook, right hook, whatever. Right, just learn something. But which gets into firearms? One thing my dad always taught me was there is never any reason to sell a firearm. Right, you buy a, you have it for life. You should never sell a firearm. So which firearm do you buy? First, my opinion, and again, it's my opinion, and everyone else is going to have their own. But the reason I have this opinion is for a few reasons. But, um, you should have a handgun first, for one, it's portable, um, you can take it anywhere with you here in Alabama. It's constitutionally, you can carry. You don't even have to have a license, um, but you need a reliable pistol. Um, there are lots of pistols out there that are reliable now, um, but you also need to find the one that you like to shoot.

Speaker 3: 38:37

Um personally like Glock. Um, it's the ugliest gun I own, but I know when I pull that trigger it's going to go off, unlike the three 20 where it'll go off without even pulling the trigger.

Speaker 1: 38:49

They they are reliable, they're just reliably terrible.

Speaker 3: 38:54

I just don't like the three 20 shake awake feature is really what it comes down to. You know, could you imagine like getting shot by your own gun and having to explain that to people Because no one up until recently nobody would have believed you?

Speaker 1: 39:09

No, everyone behind your back would have been saying like yeah, he pulled the trigger somehow.

Speaker 3: 39:14

Yeah, he pulled the trigger, but now we have video of guns going off without anybody even touching them Right, and now there's a few guys out there feeling vindicated. But personally I like Glock.

Speaker 1: 39:30

I know you recently got into glock world. Let's not push it too much. I bought my first glock.

Speaker 3: 39:33

Okay, 43x 43 just so, I have an original 43 um and it was like what? That's what? Seven shot, six shot, maybe not, maybe not even maybe six, I think it's. Yeah, I don't know, I think it's six, and now I have a mag extension on it, so I'm up to eight.

Speaker 3: 39:51

But like those little guns I consider like punch guns, right, they're like a little bit better than me punching and they're for use within punching range, right.

Speaker 3: 40:00

Yeah, because if it was something that short of a barrel like you're not shooting far at all, not accurately you could throw a dot on it and you might get a little bit better. But it's so unforgiving because it's so small that is very easy to to miss that. But I usually carry a 19, mostly because it's easier to conceal, and usually, like, when I carry, I carry with a 15 round or in it and I carry a 20 round or on me Um, that's why I've got 35 rounds, you know. So if I'm at church or whatever, I've always got at least 35 rounds on me Um, but I use the 15 round or in it. I don't put a mag extender on my carry when I'm carrying it because it's easier to conceal. But I mean to be honest with you. I could carry one of the mag extender and no one would notice, because no one's paying attention to me, because everybody's looking at their phones.

Speaker 1: 40:53

That was the the, I guess, my biggest realization when I first started to carry right, and anyone who, who, who carries will probably know exactly what I mean. But when you first start, you're imagining that everyone knows, that everyone can see, and eventually somehow your shirt will come up and it will be out for an hour and you won't realize it, and no one else will realize it either, and you realize, no one pays attention to anything these days.

Speaker 3: 41:26

there's a boomer at the coney fair and there was a uh. So when I used to live in georgia, there was a guy I used to go train with. He's a former green beret and, um, you know, he taught me a bunch of stuff. Like in the marines, they don't teach you how to shoot a pistol, they barely teach you how to use a rifle, right. So everything I've learned I had to learn after I got out, um, and I learned a lot of good stuff, right. But one thing that he showed us is we went to the local what was called the lennox mall, I think, in atlanta, and one of the guys had an outside the waistband holster on, put his gun in it, didn't even cover it up with his shirt, and this was like 10 years ago, right, um and just, we walked around all day, not in. In. That mall was full all day, every day. Not a single person said anything to him the entire couple hours we're in there not, and I mentioned that mall.

Speaker 1: 42:14

I don't know what the laws are down there, but if they're similar to up here, like imagine that mall probably had the no firearm signs, right, yeah, but I'm sure they don't carry force of law.

Speaker 3: 42:25

Yeah, Now, here in Alabama, those are like suggestions. Yeah, Mostly, but even so, like you, you, you have to. We'll get into this in a later show. Like you know, concealed carrying but do you have to be willing to accept the consequences of your actions, whether you carry or not, of your actions, whether you carry or not, Right? So if you decide not to carry in an area, uh, that's a gun-free zone, just be aware that you're the most vulnerable person in there. Um, you know? And if you don't have it on you and there's no reason for you not to have it on you, then you're accepting responsibility for not properly preparing, Right? Um, but as far as you know, like the first starter gun, I always suggest get a handgun. I don't care if it's a Glock, you don't have to get a Glock. In fact, I don't even always carry a Glock anymore. Um, I've been carrying my uh CZ shadow to compact a lot more lately and I love that gun. Uh, it's a little heavier, Um, but it'll, and the trigger in it is phenomenal.

Speaker 1: 43:28

And you just won't get a trigger like that out of a striker fire gun. Yeah, I like to carry my 92X, my Beretta. Same thing that double action, single action is, but for someone brand new to it, one of the major brand striker fire guns probably is the way to go.

Speaker 3: 43:45

Yeah, and it's. You know, for example, like the um, was it? The Springfield Hellcat is really popular. Um, you can get the Echelon, which is more of a full size. Uh, that's a really good one.

Speaker 3: 44:02

Beretta. You, even as a former marine, where we're issued berettas but ours were abused so bad we were basically, you know, pounding intense spikes with them, you know that I, I taught my wife how to shoot on a beretta and she can hit a fly from 15 feet away, right? Um, they're phenomenal guns. Um, even the px4 storm is a fantastic gun. Um, I've been looking at that one. Yeah, it's, if you get the langdon tactical one, man, they do a good job on that thing. Um, my wife's texting me about the beretta. Um, and you know the echelon's good.

Speaker 3: 44:40

Um, I would stay away from anything six hour and and even, just because you can't trust six hour anymore. Right, because they've tried to gaslight us all on 320. Um, because I've shot the 320, 320 shoots, 320 shoots, great, but we can't trust it. You can't carry a gun that will go off without you pulling the trigger, right, and then the fact that they tried to gaslight us on it now makes me suspect of all their other guns, because the .226 is a great looking gun. I've shot it. I used to have a .226 chambered .357 and it was a fantastic gun .357 SIG yeah nice. It was issued to a traffic cop department or whatever and they turned it in or whatever. I ended up selling it for something else or traded in for something else, but I broke my dad's cardinal rule. Uh, but you didn't sell it I didn't sell it actually.

Speaker 3: 45:36

You know, I think I traded in for a for a kimber and that was a horrible decision. I should have done that.

Speaker 1: 45:43

You went from one Cohen company to another Cohen company.

Speaker 3: 45:47

I knew nothing when I first started carrying firearms.

Speaker 1: 45:50

I have a Kimber on the shelf behind me. I shouldn't talk. There's a reason to have a shelf.

Speaker 3: 45:54

I traded that in. I traded the Kimber in for a Glock and I got my wife a Ruger LCR. Ruger LCR is another horrible gun.

Speaker 1: 46:02

I hate that gun so much man.

Speaker 3: 46:05

We got uh, your lcr is another horrible guy. I hate that gun so much, man, we got rid of that one real quick too, but uh, but anyway, you know, buy something that you're going to shoot.

Speaker 3: 46:09

You need to be shooting at least 500 rounds a year at least mad minimum yeah yeah, you need to be doing at least 500, you know 50 rounds every couple of weeks, right, go out and and find some good training. Find some good training. Find some good instruction. You know, find somebody around. Stay away from anything NRA, because anybody can get an NRA license and I've seen some of the worst training done by NRA instructors. There's a lot of good training out there.

Speaker 3: 46:38

If you, all you know, want to DM me, and you know, hey, I've been looking at this guy you know for training, send them to me and I'll I'll look at them for you and see if it's the juices worth the squeeze. Um, but go out and do some training, right, and, uh, do what you can because you don't want to not know how to shoot your firearm accurately when you need to. You know, like that's the biggest concern I have for guys that you know that carry a churches, like a lot of y'all don't train, and you're in a church full of people, right, and these people are going to be bobbing up and down and you're going to try shooting over their head and you're going to end up shooting somebody you don't mean to Right, um, and so just get some training, but shooting at least about around a year.

Speaker 1: 47:20

Um question for you. I don't know if you, being military, maybe didn't have this experience, but for me, especially when I first got into carrying, did you ever? Did you ever get dreams, or get dreams when you, you know, like a nightmare, where there's some situation you pull your, your gun, you go to fire and that triggers like a thousand pounds and you can't pull it, or you're pulling it, it's not working, or or you know something like that.

Speaker 3: 47:51

My in my dreams. My guns don't kill anybody, my bullets do nothing and I don't know why that is, and I always wake up like mad. You know, like, yeah, I had.

Speaker 1: 48:03

you know, I was shot him like 32 times there's no times I've I've woken up and gone, gone to, you know, to my gun and, like you know, obviously cleared it and then, like, tried the trigger, like yeah, the trigger does actually work, I know, but I've always taken that to mean, like you know, get to the range yeah, maybe, yeah like subconsciously like maybe I know I'm not, you know shooting enough I do a lot of.

Speaker 3: 48:26

I do a lot of draw fire, especially when I'm at work, I'm in between like meetings or whatever, and so, uh, you know, I'll download my mag and make sure it's clear and everything, and I'll just sit there and draw fire. Um, and I think that helps a little bit as well, you know, especially when it comes to the dreams, but it but it helps with trigger control as well and site acquisition and things like that.

Speaker 3: 48:46

Um, you know, yeah, especially especially for a fight, that transitioning from iron sights to a dot? Um has been hard for me and I didn't know, I had an astigmatism till I got a dot, and now my dot looks like a splattered bug on a windshield. A little bit right, um, and I just kind of to deal with it, yeah. But uh, yeah, finding the dot has always been the hardest thing for me, um, especially with the glock. Because of the glock you're aiming more with your thumbs than anything, um, and so when you're having to really just, you know, pull it, push it down to find that dot has been.

Speaker 3: 49:21

But once you get it like it, it comes second nature and you can, when you have a dot like you, don't even have to be looking. Having the dot in the middle of your, of your reticle, really of your, of your window, your dot could be off to the corner because you're having to kind of cant yourself a little bit and it's still shooting where you're putting the dot right. That's, that's the nice thing about, whereas with, like, a iron, you have to have them properly lined up, proper sight picture. Your front sight post is clear and your target's blurry. Whatever, with a dot you can have one eye, you can still hit. It's amazing. It has been the best thing for growing old and losing my sight a little bit.

Speaker 1: 50:06

Tell the astigmatism gets too bad.

Speaker 3: 50:09

Man like now. It makes sense, because now when I drive I just thought I had dirty windshields.

Speaker 1: 50:15

But like, everybody's lights are like.

Speaker 3: 50:19

I'm having astigmatism. It's like somebody told me I had cancer. I'm having astigmatism Like how long do I have to live?

Speaker 1: 50:28

uh, don't the green dots help with that. Do what isn't that way. They make the green dots to help with that.

Speaker 3: 50:36

It doesn't help. So yeah, because I've got a green dot on my shadow and it doesn't help. See that, see that's a wives deal, I guess. So there's, or maybe you have cancer, or I have cancer of the of the eyeballs, so apparently there's a company called Siley that has a anti-estigmatism technology that I've looked at, trying to check out.

Speaker 1: 50:59

I think that's supposed to be a little bit better Chinese brand, that's yeah, but everything's a Chinese brand now.

Speaker 3: 51:04

Yeah, like even six. Six, that's supposed to be a little bit better chinese brand, that's yeah.

Speaker 1: 51:07

but everything's a chinese brand now, yeah, like even sigs, sigs they're maybe a holosun, aren't they?

Speaker 3: 51:10

yeah, holosun's china. In fact, we can thank the chinese for us being so well armed. When the chinese invade, right, because they provide us with all our technology.

Speaker 1: 51:17

It's fantastic the then uh. So I just got a PVS 14 today.

Speaker 3: 51:22

Did you yeah, from what gen? Gen 3? 2+, 2+, that's not bad, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 51:31

But it's through Hoplite, the guy who does the digital night vision. Okay, so I mean he straight up, says it's a Chinese.

Speaker 3: 51:38

Why do you keep buying stuff from him?

Speaker 1: 51:39

I don't know no one else had it for the price he did, but you know, he straight up says it's a Chinese tube that he has.

Speaker 3: 51:46

But I mean because, really, the tubes you have, you have L3 and Elbit. Elbit's an Israeli company, but they're all over the United States, like we even have them here in Alabama. They have an Elbit here. It's actually not far from me. So if anything ever happens without rule of law, I know the first place I'm going for me. Um, so if anything ever happens without real law, I know the first place I'm going, but, um, but you know that a lot of the tubes it's not the tube. That is that so much the issue.

Speaker 3: 52:14

Um, as far as, because a lot of them are pretty much the same. You're just really worried about, like some of the, the specs on them, but it's the housing that you have to worry about. If the housing is not good, then like you could drop it and it breaks Right. My PBS 14 that I had in the Marine Corps I used to use that thing as a weight to get a line over branches and stuff, right, because it wasn't mine, I didn't care about it. You know now mine that I have now, like that thing's like a baby. It's always in its cradle Right, baby, it's always in its cradle right. Well, for the the price, yeah, I would hope so, but you know the good thing is about having a homestead. I can write that off because I can use it to find my livestock if I lose them.

Speaker 1: 52:52

huh, yeah, well, I'm gonna. I'll put it in a show so I can write it off too.

Speaker 3: 52:59

There you go, yeah, exactly, yeah, absolutely all right so, but that's all I have for you know, kind of the wave tops. Did you want to do some questions?

Speaker 1: 53:08

Well, so you, you, you only mentioned handgun. Yeah, that's a good start.

Speaker 3: 53:14

The thing is with a rifle is it is so easy to go wrong with a rifle, cause you, cause, everybody's got that buddy that knows how to build rifles, right, you know like, hey, man, let me, man, let me, I'll build it for you for 250 bucks, man. And that thing like doesn't shoot straight right, or it falls apart, the pins walk out of it, it jams up because the gas tube's all blocked up because it didn't put proper hole in, whatever right, it's always something um the with with rifles and we'll have to do a full show on rifles. Um, it has gotten to the point now where you're you can buy a, a rifle that you cannot out shoot for years, because you just need more training right um, for about 700 bucks in everything attached to it Light sling, everything.

Speaker 3: 54:08

But the issue is, everyone always wants to spend less. I've only got $400. Well, save up until you've got another $400. My solution is always start with a pistol, because if you can shoot a pistol, you can shoot a rifle. Rifles are a whole lot more forgiving than a pistol. Um, you know the the the fundamentals are a little different. But if you can maintain the good sight picture with a pistol, you'll have no problem with the rifle. And then it's just a matter of just getting you to shore up some of the other fundamentals, like a half for a pistol grip. You know, a firm grip on the out front, whether you use the C-grip or whatever you use. Right, but it's a lot easier. But if you can get used to a pistol first and then we can move on to a rifle, because you can't carry a rifle with you into Myers, minnesota, you technically can you get escorted out. Yeah, very true.

Speaker 1: 55:10

So did anyone get any questions? Let's see. The one super chat we had was from Bobby with the green dot.

Speaker 3: 55:21

Yeah, I just don't. I've got a green dot on my shadow and I still have an issue, right, still, it still looks like a splinter bug, um. So yeah, I mean I'm gonna try that sally eventually, but I gotta get to a point where I can just drop a couple hundred bucks on something, not worry about it. Yeah, because if I buy it and it still looks the same, well, like what?

Speaker 3: 55:40

did I do that sucks yeah, might as well just stay with because, like, right now I have, um I use swamp fox a lot um on mine. Now I haven't. I won't buy a trigicon um red dot. I just don't think the price is worth it. Uh, the technology has so outpaced them and they just really haven't kept up. Now I do have an acog on a rifle, so, and I will, you know, I have one acog that I like, just because it's a little reminiscent of my time in the marines, because they switched to that about two years I was in um, but um, they're red dots on pistols I don't, I'm not really fond of at all. All right, do we have any questions? I don don't see any. This guy Skidmark, whatever his name is thinks we have some really bad opinions.

Speaker 1: 56:32

Joe Diodati, who is our resident Australian, who can't probably get one anyways, wants to know what's a great handgun for a beginner.

Speaker 3: 56:43

I mean, I'm always going to default to G, the glock one, because you can find them anywhere, they're fairly cheap and resist people telling you you need to update it. Upgrade a glock, you don't need to. The trigger's fine, the sights are fine. Uh, yes, the sights are plastic, but they have a steel core in the middle of them, right? So for me, like when I teach guys, like you know, failure drills or transition drills, there's a lot of times I'm having to rack the slide off the sites. Um, for you know, because your other arm went down or whatever, right, right? Um, if we're, if we're simulating um, the the sites will hold up, fine, I've never had an issue with them. Um, you will not be good enough to out shoot a block for years. There's no reason to upgrade. And on top of that, when you do that, you're introducing failure into the gun.

Speaker 3: 57:29

There's a video going around earlier last week of a guy who basically created the Glock that didn't have anything Glock-in in it anymore. It was a bunch of aftermarket parts and when he would slam his mag home, the gun would go off all by itself, because he's now gone past all those tolerances that the glock is built around and he's he's modified it so much. So just buy a glock, um. Or if you don't like the law, if you don't like the grip on the glock, that's fine. The springfield echelon is a great firearm, um you know. And there's mmp, the mmp 2.0 carry metal frame if I ever had an extra 900 bucks, man, I'd buy that real quick.

Speaker 3: 58:12

I just can't justify that much money for a striking fire gun. The issue is for me is I already have like 50 glock mags, right, so then, if I buy, another firearm. I need to buy more mags for it, and I just don't want to now, unless you get the staccato hd yeah, but then it's a staccato, right, like.

Speaker 3: 58:31

The issue with staccato is it's going to be a race gun or it's going to be a comp gun anyway. Um, so I don't really, because I'm not carrying around the staccato because they're not drop safe at all. True, you know. You know, if something happens in my I'm wrestling a guy, my gun falls out and shoots me in the back like what was the point um, bobby want to know what your mos was uh, dm me bobby and I'll tell you I don't want to.

Speaker 3: 59:01

There's a there to. There's a, there's a. There's a stigma of guys in my community that put that out.

Speaker 1: 59:07

Fair enough? Um, I think that's all we have for questions. Any uh any final thoughts or words or ideas what you want the next show to be.

Speaker 3: 59:24

Um, I, I've got a few ideas on the next show, um, but I think really parting shots would be um, you know, just get the information. Start learning a little bit about something you don't know about. Uh, whether it be food preparation like like I learned how to can a few years ago, right, just because I wanted to learn how to do it, and that is a skill that a lot of people could use you just learn a little bit about something you don't know about. That will make you less likely to starve or less likely to die, right, and just do a little bit every day and don't feel like you have to know everything right now because you've got some time, right. Just learn a little bit more.

Speaker 1: 1:00:09

Okay, well, let's see Just at about an hour. So that worked out pretty perfectly Good. So I think right now we're planning on doing these hopefully weekly on Monday nights. Okay, yeah, right now we're planning on doing these hopefully weekly on Monday nights.

Speaker 3: 1:00:25

Okay, um yeah, and hopefully we. Uh, if anybody has any show ideas that you want me to go over on something, I'd be happy to do it. Um, we can do medical. I. You know I was a paramedic for five years. Um, so we can do that. Um, you know that's, that's a big gap in a lot of people's capabilities knowing how to put the white stuff on the red stuff. But if y'all got any ideas and things that you want me to go over or if I don't know, I'll find someone who does.

Speaker 1: 1:01:02

We can do that. I think the weekly shows will probably be mostly conversations, but I think it would be cool to to pre-record certain things. Uh, like maybe you going through, you know, your med kit, or or even you doing a tutorial on canning or something like that, and uploading them separately. Yeah, we do something. Yeah, so there's.

Speaker 3: 1:01:24

I do want to get christopher on the show, and I think we is high time for a face reveal for him. Um, because he's convincing him he would be.

Speaker 3: 1:01:31

He can wear a mask, I don't care um, but uh, he would be great for a medical because that his, his scope of practice in texas is so far beyond what mine was in georgia. Like they're given like whole blood and everything. Like we couldn't even do it. Like when you get into medicine, a lot of times you're having to, you're having to basically train to your stupidest paramedic Right. We have a lot of stupid paramedics in Georgia, apparently because in Texas they let them do all kinds of stuff. It's crazy.

Speaker 1: 1:02:01

Paul, if we did a show on hunting like what, what would you want to see on it?

Speaker 3: 1:02:07

Like advice or going over a deer after you hit it on the highway.

Speaker 1: 1:02:13

So that's funny that last year, me and uh last year was my first year deer hunting, never done it before. So I had a coworker kind of helped me out, you know, uh, getting stuff up, what, what, what I needed, you know. And then we hunted a what a mile apart from each other and neither of us got a deer. But he did come across a deer that had just that he saw someone else hit so he did throw it in the back of his truck and we did dress that and yeah, usually when you hit a deer like it, it'll hemorrhage the meat real bad.

Speaker 3: 1:02:47

So you have to be very selective on what meat you take off of it. Yeah, um, that's why usually the guys will you know, if it's got antlers, they'll take the antlers, or they'll take the back straps, because those are usually the less likely that they're going to be affected by getting hit by a car.

Speaker 1: 1:02:59

Uh, yeah, this the. We lost the, the right rear quarter of the deer, because of that. But yeah, you'll be fine you got all kinds of good stuff out of that deer still.

Speaker 3: 1:03:09

Yeah, did you do? Were you uh going bow or were you using rifle, right y'all? Do you shotgun up there?

Speaker 1: 1:03:16

no, no rifle okay, yeah, the southern minnesota shotgun, but y'all have elk up there, don't you?

Speaker 3: 1:03:23

no, no, not anymore, but a hundred years ago we did, but we have.

Speaker 1: 1:03:27

We had elk in kentucky when I was growing up they are introducing elk um about two hours south of me. So if that goes well, hopefully they, they, they do more of that, but no, it's really just white tail. There's some bear hunting um, some moose hunting, that's a, that's like a once in a lifetime lottery sort of thing, um, but yeah, it's mostly white tail and you know small game like grouse yeah, yeah, we uh down here in alabama.

Speaker 3: 1:03:57

Our deer are small. It's kind of like across the street from me is a a big field and there's like a construction company um, over there as well, but it's a big field they just hate. The guy who owns it lives down the road and he has a bunch of cattle so he haze it and, um, I see deer over there all the time and I like those are dogs, those look like large german shepherds. Those are not deer. What are those?

Speaker 1: 1:04:23

our deer uh, especially in southern minnesota, get pretty big because of all the farms and stuff. But up here in northern Minnesota the wolves have made such a comeback that the deer population. It's been better the last year or two but we had some really bad winters before that and the wolves can just hunt the deer so well when the snow's super deep, because they stay on top of the snow and the deer punch right through it. So the the deer population is taking a really bad hit because of the wolves and the dnr won't won't open a wolf season. I think it's been about 10 years since they last did a wolf hunt.

Speaker 3: 1:05:00

So man, that's yeah so now that you have so, they're gonna backpedal a little bit. So now they have your pbs 14, are you looking to get thermals now?

Speaker 1: 1:05:12

I've considered it. I mean so as far as the night vision and thermals, like I'm entirely new to it, right, yeah but um it, you know. So we can't hunt wolves, but coyotes are free game year round, basically.

Speaker 3: 1:05:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:05:29

We don't coyotes where I am because of all the wolves, but they're getting more and more prevalent and like we have a coyote that walks right through town here and I've thought about, I don't know, maybe putting a thermal on a rifle and going to the edge of town and seeing if I can get them.

Speaker 3: 1:05:46

You can do it with a .22. Put a suppressor on a .22. Nobody will have any idea. You even shot a gun. True, a .22 is the most fun gun to shoot with a suppressor on it. I've got a little handgun it's just a little Kel-Tec P-17 and I think I paid like 160 bucks for it. But I throw the suppressor on it. Let the kids shoot it. Man, they love it, they love it. It's like I could shoot around if I, if I still lived in the neighborhood, you could shoot the neighborhood. Nobody have any idea. Yeah, and it's like eight cents around, so it's like super cheap for the really good stuff yeah, I was thinking of uh.

Speaker 1: 1:06:22

So I have the uh. What is it?

Speaker 3: 1:06:25

a jackal 300 blackout with uh that I have a can on, and I was thinking, maybe, maybe I'll use that for a coyote sometime yeah, I, I, uh, I built a honey badger we have at home and, uh, from psa I used a bunch of saber parts and so I have like a little. It's like a little eight inch, but I have a suppressor on that and that's, like you know, my home defense Cause I don't want, if I'm having to kill somebody, I don't want to wake up the kids and so go back go back to bed.

Speaker 1: 1:06:52

Go back to bed.

Speaker 3: 1:06:54

Yeah, and so I've got that for the house. Mostly. The first time I shot it suppressed. I kept pushing off getting a suppressor for a long time. I'm already on like four lists. Do I want to be on a fifth list?

Speaker 1: 1:07:10

I don't want them to have my fingerprints, I don't want them to be able to come to my house.

Speaker 3: 1:07:13

But then I realized I served in the military and they already have my fingerprints. I'm already on like five different lists what I did in the military. What else I did in the military. I'm a catholic, I'm a pro-life catholic. You know like I'm already on a bunch of lists. You know, um, and so I was like, well, I can get a suppressor. So I finally bit the bullet, got a suppressor and that a 300 blackout is about, other than the 22 is the only rifle round that is hearing safe to shoot like a five, five, six. I don't care what kind of suppressor you have on that thing, it is not hearing safe. No, the purpose of getting a suppressor on a 5.56 is signature reduction more than anything. And so don't ever think that if you throw a suppressor on a 5.56, even with subsonic rounds, it's still not hearing safe.

Speaker 1: 1:08:01

But a 300 blackout definitely is. Yeah, even then it's. It's still surprised me, at least as the shooter, how loud it was. You know like I could tell it was right on the edge. But yeah, if you're a few feet away even, yeah, that thing's quiet.

Speaker 3: 1:08:17

This is so crash was saying you know he's talking about how somebody had an entirely different story. That is the reason a lot of eyewitness accounts are not valid. Um, when it when it goes to trial, because the way people see events, um, if you get two people together that saw the same event, they will not tell you that it happened the same way, right? So I've got a lot of friends who are police officers and things like that.

Speaker 3: 1:08:41

Eyewitness accounts are entirely unreliable. In fact, you know, prior to um, you know really, what was it like the 1900s when they perfected how to make pain glass. If you saw a crime through that old, like cloudy glass like you, you couldn't serve as an eyewitness on it at all. Um, so that when it comes in, you know we've got some people there are probably some you know um cops in the chat but um, yeah, I witness the counts are entirely unreliable. Yes, we are so true. Yes, we are. We have a uh, we have our resident fbi agent in our parish, but he got converted so we have to worry about him. He's got a bunch of kids, man, it's awesome.

Speaker 1: 1:09:35

Yeah, so I haven't tried out the PVS-14 yet. I mean, I did in my bathroom a little like as soon as I got it this afternoon, but it was the only place that was dark enough. So I've had the digital night vision for a month, maybe two months now, and you can walk with it kind of. But yeah, it's.

Speaker 3: 1:09:58

Even with the PBS-14, your depth perception is so off Like driving with those, man, even if you have dual tubes. Your depth perception is so off Like driving with those man, even if you have dual tubes. Your depth perception is so because it's like you're in cartoon work, everything's 2D right, and so it's very hard to drive with it. You have to really get trained on how to use it, especially just walking.

Speaker 3: 1:10:19

I remember one of my, my first deployment. We were doing a night op to go snatch up a dude and we had a full moon out. You know, one of my, my first deployment. We were doing a night op to go snatch up a dude and, um it the we had a full moon out and everybody else had their night vision on and I took mine off and I was hauling ass man, I was like I was going with, cause everybody else is kind of like carefully stepping because there's a bunch of wadis and you know little irrigation ditches and everything and they were very cause they couldn't see anything you know as depth wise, and I was just flying through this stuff and uh, I remember we got to the, to the destination, um, and they're like man, you know what? You were just walking out there Like it was nothing. I was like y'all are dumb, you shouldn't add your PBS 14, anything else. Anyone Just reading some of these chats, let's see yes, the FBI is at your TLM.

Speaker 1: 1:11:24

They're at everybody's.

Speaker 3: 1:11:25

TLM Meat preservation without refrigeration. So if y'all don't know who brandon sheard is, he's the farmstead meat smith. Um, you go on facebook or you go on, you know, find him on youtube. Um, he is a phenomenal resource for curing, um, with salt, specifically. Um, you can also can to preserve meat.

Speaker 3: 1:11:46

Uh, the issue is when you can, it super heats the meat and you'll lose some vitamins and such out of it. When you do that, um, but it's, you know, at least you got meat to eat, right, but, um, you know, those are some, but curing like I'm about to get into curing, I haven't done it yet and and so we have some hams from when we just got our. We just process our pigs and so I've have some hams from when we just got our. We just process our pigs and so I've got some hams from them. I'm gonna try curing on them, um, and so we're gonna see how that goes, because we did. He, he was at a conference. I was at, uh, liturgy of the lamb with jason craig back in december in north carolina and he was there, man, and, like the prosciutto and stuff, he had meals. Oh it, it was so good.

Speaker 1: 1:12:23

You do you have cows too, right? Yep? Have you uh thought of like hearing your own briskets for uh corned beef? Um, I would I know it's a little different, but yeah, like I love corned beef, Right Um.

Speaker 3: 1:12:37

But the issue is like none of my else in my family probably would like it.

Speaker 2: 1:12:42

Oh really.

Speaker 3: 1:12:43

So I don't. It'd be kind of a way like I have to introduce it to them first before I looked at doing, but I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. We have Dexter's. Dexter's are a smaller cow they're. They're much better for homesteads than like Angus or Holstein's or whatever, right. And so we've got you, you know, four acres of pasture. I've got eight cows and it's fine, I've got no issue. Um, I could probably deal with an extra acre or two or get rid of a cow or two, but of the eight, we're probably going to process two this fall, uh, and we're going to sell two of our calves that we had this year and we'll just keep the four mamas and because they're all bred and they'll calf early next year, um, because we milk you know we drink raw milk around here- yeah my wife makes cheese occasionally.

Speaker 3: 1:13:30

Um, you know, and it's the mamas are what we're really focused on. Um with dexters. You unlike an angus, where you can grow it out in about nine months to a year, dexters, you really got to do about two years to grow them out okay, what is the worst self self-defense advice other than women should always have the little hammerless j-frame revolvers, you know I don't even.

Speaker 3: 1:13:59

I actually don't even mind that, right. So, and the reason for it is uh, what's his name? From thunder ranch, um, had a. Good, uh, take on it, you know, if you have a, if you have a striker fired pistol, right, because what is the most time that a woman is going to use a firearm is when she's being assaulted and stuff. It's usually a man right on top of her. If you take a striker fired pistol out and shove it in that guy's ribs and try to pull the trigger, it won't go off because it's taking the pistol out of battery. Now a small J-frame revolver, she can shove that guy in his ribs all day, every day, and just unload until he's gone right. So I don't mind that so much For anyone who doesn't know what he's talking gonna.

Speaker 1: 1:14:41

Yeah, if you have a semi-automatic pistol here and it gets pushed back even slightly, the the trigger will not, will not actually fire because you put it out of battery. So if you push that into someone at close range, you probably will not be able to fire it yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:15:01

so if it, you know, if it's in his ribs, real bad and it goes even out of battery a little bit, it won't go off. I don't mind that so much. Yeah, what's the worst man there's been so many like, the worst, like medical one that comes is um, you know it's uh, put tampons in a bullet wound yeah right, you don't understand what a tampon's used for.

Speaker 3: 1:15:26

I mean, like it's, it's is to draw blood out. Well, that's not what you want to do in a. You want to stop blood from coming out, right. So that's the as far as medical. That's the big one um that I see. Um for concealed carry. It's probably the people who carry a pistol who've never shot it or don't ever shoot it, right, um, and it just that's why it's such a big stress to get training. At least just go out and get used to shooting it.

Speaker 1: 1:15:54

And for me it's those super small guns, like you said, that people will carry. But even if they go shoot them a couple times, that will be it, because they're not nice to shoot.

Speaker 3: 1:16:09

Well, yeah, and they're uncomfortable to shoot, right, I'd rather you carry a little .22 that's easy to shoot than carry nothing or carry a gun that you know that you hate shooting. You've got to like what you shoot. Tips on carrying out a county fair stay away from people who have ai is what I would suggest isn't that the truth?

Speaker 3: 1:16:31

we like I was talking to, uh, who was it? Somebody Somebody on X earlier yesterday or today maybe, and she was excited about going to her state fair. I'm like your all state fair isn't a bunch of gang activity, like every state fair I've ever been to has been a bunch of gang activity.

Speaker 1: 1:16:46

Yeah, that's one reason why I won't go to the Minnesota State Fair anymore. It's, you know, like at our county fair. They can't stop you from carrying right, because it's public land, public event. So, you know, the Minnesota law is you can carry there. Well, they've passed laws specifically banning firearms from the state fairgrounds. So I cannot carry, you know. And they do have. Well, at the very least it's security theater at the entrances, right. So the there, the. It's probable that they would catch me trying to carry into the fair, but yet there are people that jump over the fences every year and there's always one or two shootings at the state fair from the people who jump over the fences, and it's just not worth it, yeah, it.

Speaker 3: 1:17:34

It's just I just I've never been to it. Like even growing up in Kentucky, right, like our state fair, like, especially you know, my late teens, like the late nineties, early two thousands, it got real bad man. There was gang activity all over the place all the time. So like I've just never considered going to the state fair, all like that. Yeah, why would I go to a state fair? I don't want to get shot. Like, why would I go somewhere I don't get shot at? That doesn't make any sense, like it's different if I'm getting paid to go do it um, let's see, was there any others here?

Speaker 3: 1:18:11

um, let me uh, constitutional carry is not all it's cracked up to be, because, like a lot of people who are going to carry anyway Right, and usually I'll consider carry license All they are is a fundraising for the local sheriff department. Yeah, that's really. They just and they so again it comes down to consequences. What are you willing to put up with, like, if you're not legally allowed to carry in somewhere, like you have to be able to accept the consequences. If you do, you know, is your family's life worth jail, right? So that's just something everybody has to consider.

Speaker 1: 1:18:53

Yeah, it all comes down to a risk calculation and that's everything in life like it's. You know, carrying into a post office, that's, that's a federal, so you cannot legally do it. Um, am I willing to at risk a federal felony to? You know, for the five minutes I'm at the local post office? Probably not. I'll lock it in the car if I'm running in the post office. But you know, am I willing to get trespassed from the mall to carry you in the mall for a couple of hours with all the local scholars? Yeah, I'm going to carry you in that mall, that's for sure. All the joggers bringing you around, local scholars, yeah, I'm going to carry in that mall, that's for sure.

Speaker 3: 1:19:37

All the joggers, Um, yeah, it's. It's it just really like about the only place I won't carry somewhere? They have metal detectors. I guess I can't, yeah, but they. But those places are usually pretty well staffed with like sheriffs or something.

Speaker 1: 1:19:52

But um, other than that, I like sheriffs or something, but um, other than that, I'm usually carrying anywhere with the. Um, the birth of our latest kid, you know, we had to go to the hospital and uh, I tend to like to carry in hospitals, no matter what. Uh, now in minnesota, if it's a state hospital, like a va hospital, that's a felony. Um, if it's a a private hospital, you know, then it's it's a state hospital like a VA hospital, that's a felony. If it's a private hospital, you know, then it's like carrying anywhere else. They can say don't carry, but of course they can just trespass you.

Speaker 3: 1:20:25

Yeah, that's why it's so important to know your state's laws, because every state's a little bit different on what they allow. Like, in Alabama, we can carry in the post office and that was actually just recently decided, uh, that a state, uh supreme court, but ruled against that so we can carry, which doesn't make any sense. Why you couldn't carry in the post office, like they don't deal with money hardly anymore, so, like, why, like that was the whole reason for it it's because they sold, like you know, two dollar bills and stuff like that, right, um, but yeah, it's so important to know your local laws as far as what you can and can't do, even if it means if you know you're going to be breaking a regulation. Like if somebody has a sign that does carry some type of weight in the law, like what are your options if you get caught right? Say, they catch you, like, can they arrest you or do they have to trespass you? Is, you know, whatever right? So you know, know how you can prepare for that.

Speaker 1: 1:21:17

We didn't go in the NICU, okay, so it didn't make its way into the NICU.

Speaker 3: 1:21:21

Didn't your kid get light therapy or something? What was that? Didn't your kid get light therapy?

Speaker 1: 1:21:27

Yeah, that's pretty common, though Nowadays they just bring a couple lights into the room for you.

Speaker 3: 1:21:36

They just assume, like all the worst about babies and just make them take all these, you know, uh, these precautions that you don't need, like hep b, like what babies are going to be sexually active? Well, other other than the amish?

Speaker 1: 1:21:49

or like um. So like the vitamin k, know we we decided to decline because the the the real need for that is is um it's. It helps with the clotting factors before they're able to produce it on their own. And if you're not doing a circumcision you don't really need it. But they make you sign, like you know, a waiver basically saying yes, I acknowledge we're not giving to the kid and the hospital's not at fault that the kid dies from from over, you know, from bleeding stuff like that. But like what sucks is um? Sebastian had a tongue tie. You know Iggy had one and had his snipped. I had one when I was young and had it snipped. But they would not snip the tongue tie without the vitamin k. So we did have to give him the vitamin k for that.

Speaker 3: 1:22:40

But yeah, like if I only knew then what I know now saying I gotta, I'd have done so many things different oh no how's this?

Speaker 2: 1:22:53

no, yeah, no, we said this was no get out I'm surprised you're up I uh, I was on the majority and and those guys tonight and uh, I hopped off and then I was watching you guys for a little bit and I was like how many nietzsche quotes did you have to suffer through?

Speaker 3: 1:23:11

how many? What?

Speaker 2: 1:23:13

you need to quote oh my gosh, no, you laid off tonight. You know what it is when I get on a show. I kind of take over and don't allow people I know what they want to talk about.

Speaker 3: 1:23:21

Talked about that. Yeah, we did. We talked about that. That did come up how'd tonight go? Good, well, you know I had to show up late. Yeah, I wanted to make rob comfortable. Um, I didn't want to transition too much for him how you been, adrian.

Speaker 2: 1:23:36

I haven't talked to you in a while. It has been a while. How you been.

Speaker 3: 1:23:40

Not bad, not bad my wife, the the avoiding babylon shirt. My wife likes to steal all my clothes, and so that's been the only one I've been able to keep her from stealing so far, just because she doesn.

Speaker 1: 1:23:54

Daughter bought that one my daughters do that.

Speaker 2: 1:23:56

My daughters raid my freaking drawers every every night and just go steal my shirts, and they all just walk around the house in my shirts every day and the and the bad part is like my wife looks a lot better in my clothes than I do.

Speaker 3: 1:24:09

Uh, I don't. I just give her a little bit of crap, you know, just to make her feel a little bit bad about it, but I don't mind it wait, I did tell the guys I had to go and I did.

Speaker 2: 1:24:21

I do. I actually just took melatonin. I'm gonna always say I just wanted to say hello. I haven't talked to rob and it's been a while yeah, we text a little bit, but I haven't talked to him in a while. So, rob, I think tomorrow we'll uh, I think we're gonna. We're gonna try the advice show tomorrow. Oh boy, we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1: 1:24:38

Just me and you.

Speaker 2: 1:24:42

Me and you, and we're going to put the StreamYard link in the YouTube description and we're just going to let random people pop on the show and ask advice questions. It's been a while since.

Speaker 1: 1:24:51

I pulled out whiskey. We might have to do that.

Speaker 2: 1:24:54

That actually would be a fun drinking show. That would be a fun drinking show. That would be a fun drinking show. We'll see how it goes, but they're gonna be amazing. They'll be good clips. That's exactly it like you can do, like people come on, they ask a question and then you could just post the clip of the question and you know, see how those go. The clips would be amazing from it.

Speaker 3: 1:25:15

So rob's gonna get so many shorts from that.

Speaker 2: 1:25:17

It's gonna be crazy yeah, problem is it's a lot of work for rob, so we'll see.

Speaker 1: 1:25:21

Let's see how it goes I mean, I don't need sleep, right yeah, is the baby sleeping through the night?

Speaker 2: 1:25:27

yeah, pretty much. Oh, that's great, all right, we'll do our catching up tomorrow. I just wanted to pop in and say hello.

Speaker 1: 1:25:33

How quickly do we get? Yeah, no, you have no idea how many texts I got today about how much he hates the guy and Dave.

Speaker 2: 1:25:42

Ramsey. I never hate watched the show before. I hate watch John Deloney. Like every single clip I'm screaming at my iPad. I'm like this guy is the worst human being in the world. And then today I saw that he actually Lila Rose interviewed him last year. So I'm like the two most evil people in the world sat down for a conversation. I should maybe listen to it and see how quickly they advise divorce, because that's all he does. He just women will have like a perfectly like they'll be like. No, I'm not in an abusive relationship. And he's like you're being abused, honey. You need to go see a lawyer and you need to get divorced right now.

Speaker 3: 1:26:22

It's insane I used to hate watch matt frad for a while. Uh just what? Because, like, I would watch it and I would like ask a hard question, ask a hard question. You Ask a hard question, just ask anything. It's something that's always hard to watch, he watched.

Speaker 2: 1:26:43

Anthony when he first started.

Speaker 3: 1:26:49

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2: 1:26:50

I see Cavazos cut a little clip from Matt Fradd today.

Speaker 3: 1:26:53

He's got a lot of views on that he did and a lot of people on that he did and a lot of people said his is actually better than watching matt frad's let me see, let's see, let's see how nick's views are doing.

Speaker 2: 1:27:03

Uh, yeah, he's got like 9 000 views on his matt frat. And it's funny because I actually saw matt talk about the sspx and I screen recorded and I was gonna pop it up on x today and I was like no, I'm not gonna do it. And then nick pops up with his little video and like oh, maybe I should have done it, probably would have got some. You guys can't do a show if you're yawning and falling asleep like. I came on here to bring a little energy to the show.

Speaker 3: 1:27:25

Oh my gosh you gotta have a little bit of energy.

Speaker 2: 1:27:29

When you do one of these guys, you can't fall asleep.

Speaker 3: 1:27:33

Rob's having to carry the show.

Speaker 1: 1:27:34

I didn't talk at all oh, whatever you talk less than anthony, that's for sure.

Speaker 3: 1:27:40

But well, you know, I, because I wanted you to be able to say something that's called a conversational pause well, when are we gonna tell people a little bit about what's happening?

Speaker 2: 1:27:53

soon, soon, soon, soon. Well, I want to just get the okay first. Soon as we get the okay, we're gonna come out guns blazing. But um, yeah, I don't, I don't, I want to wait until we have the okay first.

Speaker 2: 1:28:02

So okay but uh, um, yeah, rob me and you tomorrow, I'll like we'll come up with a good title name and then I think, like we'll do like a main subject and then we'll just pop the link up in the in the youtube description. We'll we'll's like Russian roulette you never know what you're going to get. We'll see what happens Could be a doozy, could be terrible, sounds exciting. It'll be fun, don't worry. I make everything fun, don't worry. All right, I'm going to run boys. It was nice seeing you, adrian. It was good talking to you again. Bud, you too, I'll see you guys.

Speaker 1: 1:28:36

I suppose with that we should probably end the show. Yeah, let's end it there. Yeah before he decides he wasn't talking so, yeah, so I guess we're doing a device show. Tomorrow, thursday, we're having Hitchborn on, so that will be crazy and good, I'm sure. And then, yeah, next Monday, hopefully, unless something comes up, we'll do. We'll do this again, so, and I'm going to send you the notes, good, I like to look at them before the day of you know and like and like separate.

Speaker 1: 1:29:03

you know it's very different than Anthony popping on and saying hey, tomorrow we're going to have random people on the show asking you random questions You're not going to be prepared for but he's, he's good with that, you know, but he's good with that, so that's his thing.

Speaker 3: 1:29:14

That's his thing. You're right. If he prepared, it would be a horrible show.

Speaker 1: 1:29:18

Yes, that's true. The shows he has prepared for have been boring.

Speaker 3: 1:29:24

Yes, All right, I'm going to let y'all go. Y'all have a good night.

Speaker 1: 1:29:29

Yep. Thank you everyone and we'll see you later.