Avoiding Babylon
Avoiding Babylon was started during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. During these difficult and dark days, when most of us were isolated from family, friends, our parishes, and even the Sacraments themselves, this channel was started as a statement of standing against the tyrannical mandates that many of us were living under. Since those early days, this channel has morphed into an amazing community of friends…no…more than friends…Christian brothers and sisters…who have grown in joy and charity.
As we see it, our job here at Avoiding Babylon is to remind ourselves and those who enjoy the channel that being Catholic is a joyful and exciting experience. We seek true Catholic fraternity and eutrapelia with other Catholics who, like us, are doing their best to live out their vocation with the help of God’s Grace. Above all, we try to bring humor and joy to the craziness of this fallen world, for as Hillaire Belloc has famously said:
“Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine,
There’s always laughter and good red wine.
At least I’ve always found it so.
Benedicamus Domino!”
Avoiding Babylon
The Final Trivia Night and the Passing of the Torch
Get ready for an evening of laughter, friendly competition, and surprising revelations as Catholic content creators face off in a trivia challenge that tests their knowledge of the faith. What started as a simple game quickly unveils just how much—or how little—these podcasters know about Catholicism.
The format is brilliantly simple: questions are posed, contestants race to answer first through a private chat "buzzer system," and points are awarded for correct answers (or deducted for incorrect ones). Meanwhile, audience members in the chat compete alongside them, often demonstrating deeper knowledge than the contestants themselves.
As questions range from the technical term for Christ's divinity and humanity to which Pope convinced Attila the Hun not to conquer Rome, we witness moments of triumph, embarrassment, and theological debate. The most fascinating discussions emerge between questions, as contestants wrestle with concepts like when exactly the Church began—at Pentecost, at the Cross, or perhaps even in the Garden of Eden?
Beyond the trivia itself, this episode offers a candid glimpse into the Catholic content creation landscape. During breaks, participants discuss the challenges of maintaining authenticity while growing an audience, the pressures to water down controversial topics, and the delicate balance between charity and truth-telling in online Catholic spaces.
Whether you're testing your own Catholic knowledge, enjoying the camaraderie, or reflecting on deeper theological concepts, this trivia night delivers entertainment while highlighting an important truth: sometimes the most valuable learning comes through play, community, and a healthy dose of humility when we discover what we don't know.
Think you could beat these contestants? There's only one way to find out—tune in and play along!
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SANTE, sante AMARE MORTI DE TRADAS NOS IN TE SPERA VERUM In taste, fair love and. Where did everyone go.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, that song is awful.
Speaker 1:Where did John go? Where did Majorian go?
Speaker 2:Oh, there we go. You remember this one. I can't even hear what it is oh, oh, I forgot how to the chorus.
Speaker 1:I forgot how cringe this was.
Speaker 6:I haven't heard this song in 20 years.
Speaker 1:Is this the first question? I just want to know did Majorian hear this?
Speaker 6:and dip out? I don't want to know the answer to that question. Okay, that's where I'm at.
Speaker 4:Yeah where did Majorian go?
Speaker 1:I don't want to know the answer to that question, that's where I'm at.
Speaker 3:Where did Majority go? I don't know. Sometimes his internet goes down.
Speaker 7:He said he hit the power button on his computer.
Speaker 1:I understand that.
Speaker 4:First question is have you guys been around the channel long enough for no trivia on our channel? No.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 4:You guys came after the days of trivia. Huh yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not even confirmed yet. This world is all new to me. Yeah, we're getting confirmed this Easter.
Speaker 1:We're passing the torch off to a bunch of noobs.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 3:I'm a cradle cat, we're good.
Speaker 4:This is amazing I'm just telling you guys, the whole show is them just making fun of us. Just be prepared right now. This is the show. Okay, so Rob and I started our channel. Well, I started it doing like trying to figure out what I wanted to do, and then I decided I was going to do trivia, and Rob was the first guest on trivia.
Speaker 1:One of the first two.
Speaker 6:You always forget about poor steven well, I mean, rob, you cleaned the floor with him.
Speaker 4:He, yeah, it was like brutal like rob, like I watched even was steven was so bad it was embarrassing. So, um, now rob and steven were the first guests and rob slade, and then I just liked Rob, like I just right away liked them. So I called him the next day, asked him to join the channel and we started off doing trivia on our channel. But it was a unique thing, nobody else was doing it and it wound up giving us an opportunity to grow the channel, ask for bigger guests to come on and guests, you know, be a guest on trivia and it wound up being the thing that got our like name recognition out there. Like people started watching our show because you will see tonight in the chat, like the fun of the show is the chat. So I would say, even if you don't know the right answer, if you have a funny line, I might give you a point.
Speaker 6:What if we say something stupid enough to lose a point? Is that a thing?
Speaker 1:Then you might gain three points you never know.
Speaker 4:No I saw, jason, we're okay, you're going to see how the rules work. It's a little bit weird, but first thing I'm going to have you guys. Do you see over in the top right, it says comments, banners, private chat. You guys are all going to switch over to private chat. Okay, now you're Catholic and we expect you all to stay on private chat. You cannot watch the public chat. If you look at the public chat, that's cheating. And if you cheat to win at trivia, you will go to hell. Yes, you will go to hell, for you will go to hell for lying.
Speaker 6:No, you'll have to go to confession, Come on guys.
Speaker 4:That's presumption.
Speaker 1:I'll take lowly sperm receptacles for 400, Alex.
Speaker 4:That's a good tweet, dude. That's a good tweet, dude. That's a good tweet. It riled everybody up. Okay, so here's the rules. I'm going to say a question. You guys are going to use the private chat as a buzzer system, so basically, have your initial in there and if you get the right answer, or if you think you know the right answer as I'm reading the question, you fire off your initial, like I just did. Whoever's initial gets in there first gets a shot at answering the question.
Speaker 1:Don says when in doubt, guess concupiscence.
Speaker 4:Is he on locals? He's on locals, man. A lot of people, a lot of people in locals don't want to pay the extra three bucks. We were hoping to swindle you guys tonight. One last round of trivia. There's 46 in live chat on Locals. How many we got on Twitch on YouTube bro?
Speaker 1:We have 14 on YouTube. I think Majorian just popped back in.
Speaker 4:Okay, throw him on. Alright. So this is Majorian's musings. Alright, so I just explained the rules to them. You get to private chat, majorian, and you're going to use the private chat as a buzzer system. So stay on private chat, because you're not, you don't want to, you don't want to go to hell for cheating on a stupid trivia show. So you basically just put your initial in. If you you keep your finger over the send button and if I'm asking a question, you know the answer. You just pop your initial up.
Speaker 6:Whoever's initial gets in there first, that'd be a pretty funny reason, though Hold on a second. There's multiple people with C's in here.
Speaker 4:You'll know who's who. Oh, true, true.
Speaker 1:It tells us Good call Never mind, forget, I said anything.
Speaker 4:You can put X up there, it doesn matter, it's just getting your initial in there.
Speaker 3:He's not a bright one, guys. I don't think he's winning tonight.
Speaker 4:That's what I like to hear. Laura, that is what I want to hear. Yes, Don needs to stop being cheap. He is a diamond member on LocalZone. We're just giving a couple more people time to gather in. That's acceptable. Here's what Rob and I were thinking. After this show, you guys will see how it works, how it really is very audience-based. I think you guys should all get together.
Speaker 1:The majority is not going to be able to play.
Speaker 4:This internet is terrible.
Speaker 1:He just popped back in. We're thinking you guys could get together. The majority is not going to be able to play. This internet is terrible. He just popped back in.
Speaker 4:So we're thinking you guys could get together, combine your shows of the four people who watch each one, and maybe you'll get 16 people to watch your show and then try to get guests on and then maybe you guys could grow all of your individual channels by gathering. Whether you do it once a week, once a month, whatever. To do Catholic trivia, somebody has to volunteer to be the host. Hosting is not as easy as you think.
Speaker 1:Scorekeeping is the real difficulty Scorekeeping is difficult.
Speaker 4:So one person hosts, one person scorekeeps and the rest of the guests play. The difficulty is in questions. You do not want to pick super hard questions. Like you want to pick questions that the audience will be able to guess. Like even if the guests can't guess them because they're, you know, gen z retards. Like you want the audience to be able to guess them. Now, we always gave a prize away at the end, so Rob would keep score of the guests and the audience and at the end of the show we see who won. You guys will not win a prize, but somebody from the audience wins a prize. That kind of incentivizes people to check out trivia because then if they could win, they win a prize. You guys can send the book out. You can send I don't care what you send out, you guys can figure it out, I don't know. Chip in three bucks each and send the $12. Whatever you get, tonight's winner is getting a bottle of wine from Rikki's and Cellars.
Speaker 6:That doesn't ship to Michigan.
Speaker 1:Unless you live in one of the five states, we cannot ship it to, and in that case you will.
Speaker 4:I will offer you another prize. We'll see. Anthony will call you on your birthday.
Speaker 1:To wish you a happy birthday at six.
Speaker 5:Oh, I will send you something I will send you something I'll make the winner a custom bodybuilding program. Just dm me on twitter, I'll do it all right normally.
Speaker 4:Normally I would say margo can't win, but I'm gonna give, I'm gonna let margo be in the running tonight. Normally I would just say no way can margo win. But margo is a member. Every member has a chance to win today. If you're. If you're a member or on low rob, you gotta keep track of both. Yeah, I know, oh man, you got your hands full tonight but oh, how am I gonna tell here what we're?
Speaker 1:here's what we'll do. We'll take the first correct answer from youtube and the first correct answer from locals. Good job, that's the only way I'll be able to do it.
Speaker 4:That's how we did it all right, so what we did. I'm sorry it's taking so long to get going here, guys, but what? What we would do is whoever got the correct answer first in YouTube got the point.
Speaker 1:So Rob's going to have to do one from.
Speaker 4:YouTube one from locals. So we might have a tie. The locals chat and the YouTube chat might be a tie. Margo, if you win, it does count as your wedding present, From both of us just saying as your wedding present from both of us just saying, okay, all right, so I did not um prepare. No, I did, but there's gonna be a lot of old questions thrown in here it's a good thing rob's not answering yeah, I, I do have them memorized okay, so all right, we're gonna start.
Speaker 4:Trivia is beginning right now. Rob, you know what we could do?
Speaker 4:we could release the questions and answers as shorts there's a lot, that's a good, good content but yes, we could do that it is good content to release the questions and answers as shorts. It's good content for you guys. We're just trying to give you guys a good idea here. I don't care. I mean, you guys can take it, you can leave it, I don't care. This is the last one we're ever doing. I'm never doing this stupid show again. We had a lot of fun with it when we started it, but I have what's nice now is now.
Speaker 4:If someone else does do it, we don't feel like they're stealing from us yes, exactly so whenever anybody else would try to do trivia, we would lose our crap on them like we would lose it would be like you stole our idea, even though we weren't doing it anymore like we would just. We shut other shows, trivia shows, down with our fans and just like I hate saying fans but our viewers would like bombard them, you stole this. You stole this. You stole this. You know, probably would have been nice to just let them do it.
Speaker 4:But I was sitting under the station of the cross and thought of the perfect question OK, are we going to? Are we ready to go? Yeah, I'm ready. Ok, you guys are all in private chat, right? Yeah, I hope. I hope the catacomb wins. I'll be so happy. It's a great way to build interaction with your audience and if you maintain interacting with your chat, you'll eventually grow, even if it's slowly. That's exactly what happened to us. So that's actually how we and it started with just our Twitter friends. The whole show started with our Twitter friends. It was just people that followed me and.
Speaker 4:Rob on Twitter and we just dragged them over to YouTube and we had fun playing a game together. It wasn't like a podcast, it wasn't. It was just a fun game and we all had a good time doing it. So, all right, all right. So we got people. All right, yeah, the chat. We should let them bet on who's going to win, but my money's. He's on that orange beanie, okay.
Speaker 6:All right, here we go. First question Ready.
Speaker 4:What is the technical term in Christian theology that describes the union of Christ's humanity and divinity? Waiting on the chat? Okay, so Chris Crash Catholic got in first.
Speaker 6:You can't, you cannot answer this no, that C is from earlier.
Speaker 4:Oh, so Caleb's in first. Yeah, Caleb's first. Yeah, Okay, don't answer yet. Don't answer yet. All right, we got the answers in both the other ones. Go ahead. Caleb. Hypostasis Incorrect Close. He's negative one. Who is next?
Speaker 3:Go ahead. Anthony Shoot. It's not hypostasis um I mean would that technically count rob?
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm like I thought I was like.
Speaker 5:Is that not the answer?
Speaker 4:let me double check, isn't it? I don't know if that I mean. I would have said the hypostatic union. Everybody in the chat answered hypostatic union. Everybody in the chat answered hypostatic union.
Speaker 6:I was going to say the Latin, so I probably would have got it wrong.
Speaker 5:He's Byzantine. You got to give him some leeway.
Speaker 1:So hypostasis is a term for an individual subsistence or person. So hypostasis is Christ, the person of Christ, but it's not the same as the hypostatic union.
Speaker 4:Alright, I'm taking a point away from Caleb, a point away from Antony. Is it Antony or Antony? What is it? Antony, antony, antone? Alright, antone, you're annoying, but Don't give the bizlar for the point he only gave birth to his physical body.
Speaker 3:You historian heretics he gave birth to Bollywood. Oh, this is so good for you. Oh, I'm so happy. That's what.
Speaker 1:I always thought about this being good for Anthony too. It was two hours of tearing him down.
Speaker 4:The whole show is just making fun of me. Dude, it's actually nice to have somebody else that's making fun of me.
Speaker 7:Anthony, I'm curious what ethnicity do you think I am?
Speaker 4:I would say Spanish like Spain Spanish.
Speaker 7:Yeah, partially. I'm nothing enough for it to count, Like Spanish, a tiny bit of Mexican English, whatever. It's a bunch of different stuff.
Speaker 4:I'm curious yeah, I would think Spain, spanish, you look like Zora, yeah something like that you look like Zora, something like that you look like Zora. You really got to get rid of the mustache, bro, he looks like Waluigi.
Speaker 6:No, he needs to keep the mustache forever.
Speaker 4:You guys with your mustaches. I don't get it. I don't know. I've had mine for like five years.
Speaker 6:It's like part of his profile and everything. Man, that is true.
Speaker 4:Nacho Libre. You look like Nacho Libre.
Speaker 6:Based on a true story.
Speaker 1:He does look like Borat.
Speaker 4:Alright, this is going to be fun.
Speaker 1:Caleb sounds white but looks like he's going to mow your lawn.
Speaker 4:Oh no, man, I got some hard ones in here.
Speaker 6:For real quick. Is the Latin version of that word. Is it like homoousius or something like that, isn't that?
Speaker 1:the right word. It's the Greek.
Speaker 6:Either way, I knew it was one of the words that described it, so I can't believe you guys don't know the hypostatic union.
Speaker 4:I knew the hypostatic union.
Speaker 6:I thought that was a pretty easy one. Well, you didn't give anybody else a shot after Caleb.
Speaker 4:The questions I have here are all pretty tricky.
Speaker 1:And you know what there's going to be at least one where the answer isn't the answer, but it's really the answer and we're all going to argue about it.
Speaker 4:All right, let's do this. What is the first station of the cross?
Speaker 6:I'm going to stay out of this one.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh guys, are you kidding me? Dude, I'm.
Speaker 2:Byzantine.
Speaker 6:That doesn't change the stations, does it? How would I know?
Speaker 1:My goodness, it's not a Greek devotion.
Speaker 4:It's specifically a Western Catholic church. You will have the stations of the cross everywhere there's no Western Catholic church.
Speaker 5:It's just going to turn into like a catechism there's only Latins.
Speaker 1:There's only, there's only latins, there's only the cat, the latin catholic church, not the one.
Speaker 5:You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Crazy doesn't mean gay so true, he means special needs, they're saying well, majorian jumped in.
Speaker 6:I think majorians got this one yeah, majorians got it all right.
Speaker 3:Let's hear it. I do not have it.
Speaker 5:I don't know what are we talking about?
Speaker 4:The first station of the cross. None of you know it. This is the. We need a Jason tonight.
Speaker 5:We need a Jason Luminous Mysteries. No one knows, the first station.
Speaker 4:Holy cow, he does look like Guys we're Zoomers. Rob bring that picture up.
Speaker 6:I am not a Zoomer.
Speaker 1:What am I bringing up?
Speaker 4:Bring the picture up from locals, oh boy.
Speaker 3:Is this from Taffy?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, this is good actually, hold on, let me share it here.
Speaker 4:It's coming up uh now, my name is rob molly say remember when I had the trivia game cards and the answers were wrong on the game cards? Uh-huh yeah, I remember. I mean, these kids don't know anything. I'm not even sure you have a catholic.
Speaker 1:You all have a job tomorrow. Tomorrow is friday. During lent, go to station somewhere, guys yeah, you know.
Speaker 6:The sad thing is I've recorded the stations of the cross like three years in a row, so I should know that answer all right, I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna ask people thinking over trivia.
Speaker 1:Need remedial catechism lessons.
Speaker 4:Very on brand for avoiding Babylon. Okay, all right, listen.
Speaker 1:Yes, margo, you did get a point, you're right.
Speaker 4:Okay, what are the three conditions for a sin to be mortal?
Speaker 1:Must be against a human.
Speaker 4:Since against, since against the humanism Sins, against ecumenism In the environment In brown people. We're all going to hell. If that's the case, making fun of Caleb today.
Speaker 3:You're right, he is brown, he's brown.
Speaker 7:I'm Aryan.
Speaker 4:Argo's on a tear tonight. She wants that bottle of wine. Margo wants that wine tonight. Holy cow, I got it in the chat. Any of you guys know? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:I was first. Let's go in order. Yeah, go in order. Hey, so it has to be grave matter. Full knowledge and full um compliance of the will. Correct, yes, consent of the will so is that?
Speaker 1:that? Is that the first point?
Speaker 4:that was the first point from the guy yeah, we got our first point on the board.
Speaker 3:We have to know that one.
Speaker 6:Below the line will be the next set of letters there.
Speaker 4:I'm looking at my questions and I'm like these are way too hard for these guys.
Speaker 7:I was under the impression we were answering trivia about avoiding Babylon.
Speaker 5:I'd kill it man.
Speaker 6:Co-sleeping, co-sleeping, co-sleeping.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:How many words? Anthony's got one point he's going to win this whole thing. He might.
Speaker 4:Okay, how many words does the Bible record?
Speaker 6:St Joseph say oh Hit saying no Hit the wrong button.
Speaker 4:Tommy says sins against feminism.
Speaker 6:Not a 10 in the mind.
Speaker 4:We got answers in the chat. Which one are you guys in? All right, what do you got?
Speaker 6:Caleb zero, that is correct hey, I think Anthony missed not attending the Mayan right as being needed for having a mortal sin so okay, do you guys like?
Speaker 4:do you guys know your bible at all?
Speaker 5:yeah, I know that I was a southern baptist, yeah all right, so I'll ask.
Speaker 1:I'll ask some bible questions then okay, just don't do john six, they won't know that yeah welch's grape juice.
Speaker 6:Definitely don't ask about Genesis 315, because that could be a pretty big argument.
Speaker 3:That's Welsh grape juice. That's the real communion.
Speaker 4:Alright, this is a tricky one from the Bible, which New Testament writer said charity covers a multitude of sins.
Speaker 6:New Testament. Wait, does this include the letters? It's specifically in all the letters.
Speaker 4:It's in one of the epistles. It says charity covers a multitude of sins.
Speaker 6:Because at first I was like, if it's just the four gospel writers, I don't think any of them said that.
Speaker 4:New Testament, not four gospels All right. A lot of incorrect guesses in the chat. A lot of incorrect guesses in the chat. A lot of incorrect guesses in the chat. I have not seen one person in either chat. Are you sure I have not seen a correct answer yet? Oh, there we go. I got a correct answer. Not in local. Oh, locals got it. Locals got it. I in local. Oh wait, locals got it. Locals got it. I'm sorry, locals got it.
Speaker 1:You're going to give me crap, but I don't know. I'm not sure which one it is.
Speaker 4:Okay, who got in?
Speaker 6:Anthony's first.
Speaker 3:See what I did. I'm going to go with St Peter. Peter, that is correct.
Speaker 4:First Peter 4.8 Charity covers a multitude of sins. I see Tommy got it in here, unless somebody got it before him.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:He was the first one there and then in locals a few people got it.
Speaker 1:Well, I need to know the one let's see here. Beginner Catholic got it.
Speaker 3:Well, I need to know the one let's see here.
Speaker 1:Beginner. Catholic got it first no, Greg Lee.
Speaker 4:Greg right.
Speaker 1:Greg Lee.
Speaker 6:And Anthony leads all of us by two.
Speaker 4:No, Greg Beginner Catholic. Greg got it.
Speaker 1:Hold on. I don't see that.
Speaker 4:Oh, no, no, Greg Lee got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, greg Lee got it. Oh, no, anthony's dipping at the Scripture they're doomed. It's a Catholic show. Of course it wasn't Paul. It's a Catholic show. Of course it wasn't Paul. Our audience is funny. Okay, how about this one? Where was the prophet Jonah sent to, to warn, to repent? The prophet Jonah, where was he sent?
Speaker 6:I thought that pause was going to be a trick, so I didn't click anything.
Speaker 5:I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:Got plenty of answers in the chat, all right, which?
Speaker 7:one are we guys.
Speaker 4:Nineveh that is correct. Is he now one or just zero?
Speaker 7:Does the negative actually count? You're a negative. Is he now one or just zero? Oh, does the negative actually count?
Speaker 4:You're at negative. You're at one, you're at one, so listen, the rule is, if you tap the button and get the answer wrong, you lose a point.
Speaker 7:Oh, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 4:Okay, so yeah, you can't just tap the button. We have to have a penalty, otherwise everybody will just tap the button and go I don't know. We have to have a penalty otherwise everybody will just tap the button and go. I don't know. There has to be a penalty if you tap it and you don't know. Grover says he was sent to Vegas. Todd, beat Margo out. Margo, you got competition.
Speaker 6:I don't know if you're going to win.
Speaker 4:Does Grover get negative points for Vegas? No, a funny line gets you a point. Oh okay, like, if you get a funny one, if you make everybody laugh, that's like, as that's a point usually yeah, but grover doesn't get any points grover is not getting anything. Yeah, he's too mean, okay, uh, he'll get mad. All right, this is a. This is another question. I mean, it's a history question, but it's in in Scripture who was Caesar when Christ was born?
Speaker 3:Beginning of.
Speaker 1:Luke.
Speaker 4:Opening chapter of Luke Also just very basic history. Yeah, basic history, but it's also in Scripture. No, margo, it wasn't Julius Caesar, bad one, margo.
Speaker 5:No bad, he was never Caesar, yeah, just Julius.
Speaker 1:I mean, he was Caesar, but not Caesar Caesar.
Speaker 7:Yeah, he was not the emperor.
Speaker 6:You sure that J is not an? H sound like Julius Julius.
Speaker 4:Julius, julius. All right, we got plenty in the chat. You guys got it. Yeah, it was Augustus. It was Augustus. All right, there we go.
Speaker 5:I'm so cooked. I didn't get that question.
Speaker 7:Yeah you're screwed, Wait who just answered that, caleb. Caleb.
Speaker 4:All right so you got two now. Yes, sir, you guys are going to let the freaking brown guy win. This is not great.
Speaker 5:He's got the reaction time You're tied.
Speaker 1:No, no one's tied.
Speaker 7:No, because Tony was negative too. So Tony only has one and I have two. Yep.
Speaker 3:Whack.
Speaker 4:Are we ready? We're ready. What does the Hebrew word Bethlehem mean? It's Bible stuff. Come on, guys, I'm trying to go easy on you, you guys don't know this.
Speaker 6:No one else knows this.
Speaker 4:Oh lovely, you guys. Honestly, honestly, you gotta go watch catholic answers as much as you make fun of trend horn.
Speaker 1:You got some things to teach you guys.
Speaker 4:Good linton penance yeah look, I I. I know I tease catholic answers, but they do have, like you know, basic, basic catechesis stuff that you guys should learn. That's not what I bullied them for, though, all right.
Speaker 6:Whoever got in there first, go ahead. I think that's me for a while. Yeah, it's you. Okay, there we go. Wait, is it John? No, it was me. Oh, chris, what the heck. I even put the lines in there so you wouldn't mess this up.
Speaker 1:Trying to help you out.
Speaker 6:It's like Cradle of Bread.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's House of Bread, house of Bread, okay.
Speaker 6:It's House of Bread.
Speaker 7:Come on, rob, that's close enough.
Speaker 6:You can give me a half then.
Speaker 4:Manger is what you were thinking. Manger means eat like manja, it's not manger.
Speaker 6:I manger means eat like manja there's not manger.
Speaker 1:I knew that, like manja, no one speaks Italian.
Speaker 4:You don't even speak Italian, shut up just saying the root word of manja. Oh, you mean that's like Christ was born in a manger, so he's born in Bethlehem, the house of bread, in a manger. Manja, like Christ, is literally the bread. I almost said Lando you know, a manger is a feeding trough. Christ is born in a feeding trough.
Speaker 6:I almost said Lando Lakes. There's that.
Speaker 4:Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1:I missed Jason.
Speaker 6:Why didn't you invite him? We did, he had work.
Speaker 1:We've invited him in the last four trivias and he never is able to.
Speaker 6:Tell him to stop with the jujitsu for a little while, Alright ready.
Speaker 1:He loves wrestling men too much.
Speaker 4:Which Old Testament king was also a priest and offered bread and wine Going like basic stuff here.
Speaker 6:guys Did Anthony beat me on this one.
Speaker 1:We should ask them the bonus point. What other Old Testament figure is traditionally Sid to be this figure?
Speaker 4:I don't even know if I know that. Repeat that let's go with my question first, and then we'll go with Rob's.
Speaker 1:So this figure whatever that answer is is it to actually be a previous figure from the Old Testament?
Speaker 4:So let's go with this answer first and then we'll talk about that. So Todd actually got both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, let's go with this answer first, and then we'll talk about that.
Speaker 3:Todd actually got both. I'm going to go with Melchizedek King of.
Speaker 1:Satan, that is correct. Let me look in here.
Speaker 6:Is that for Anthony's or Rob's? That's for Anthony's, I just want to make sure. Who just answered that's Okay, I just want to make sure. And who just answered that?
Speaker 1:Anthony. Okay, the Latin Slav over here. Does anyone want to try to guess the bonus point? Say it again, rob. So Melchizedek is said to actually be a previous figure from the Old Testament. Who lived that long and became Melchizedek? Who is it?
Speaker 6:Oh, I dropped the answer in the private chat for you guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I gotta tell you my whole Masoretic understand, like the Masoretic text thing with the timelines has all changed in my mind now.
Speaker 1:Because you've watched that one video that jason sent you not jason patrick um, I'll create a minority report I'll have to
Speaker 6:watch what are we talking about now. Did you change? Did you change your thoughts on the?
Speaker 4:whole biblical timeline that we think like the earth is 6 000 years old or something. It's actually like almost a thousand years longer than that, because the maseratic texts take a hundred years off of the lives of like seven figures in the old testament.
Speaker 1:I mean to be fair catholics never actually thought that that's a protestant thing right, but that's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 4:It's like yeah they're like all our modern bible translations of this but the vulgate wouldn't have been that the Vulgate was translated directly from the Septuagint, wasn't?
Speaker 1:it no, but it got the numbering right still.
Speaker 6:The Septuagint was used as a reference.
Speaker 1:Jerome translated from the Hebrew Proto-Masoretic whenever he was able to, but he did make sure it aligned with the Septuagint. So that's why it still contains the Deuterocanonicals, that's why it retains the Septuagint psalm numbering stuff like that 3 and 4. Okay, so the answer is Shem. It said that Melchizedek was possibly Shem. Who's that Noah's son? Yeah, Shem is Noah's son. He's the youngest one right. I was uh, yeah, shem is yeah no, he's the youngest one, right, yep the one that that I was gonna guess the semi one that white people come from?
Speaker 7:yeah, no, that's, that's jayfeth.
Speaker 1:Oh, got it okay yeah, rob new, and we all know never mind, I mean I'm gonna stick with bible questions, because these guys will say they know their bible.
Speaker 4:So which book in the Bible is the story of Samson and Delilah in Too slow, yeah it was too slow. Book of the Bible is Samson and Delilah and you should ask questions about mass If they can't answer those they need to Except we got a bizlar.
Speaker 4:We need to rethink having podcasts. That is true. We have multiple bizlarpers, so that's not fair. Yeah, they go. Divine liturgy, yeah pre-sanctified tomorrow good for you. Okay, I gotta, I gotta mask. Good for you, buddy? Wait, we haven't answered this question yet. Yeah, I'm saying, but I do have the answer. Wait, yeah, it's plenty in the chat. You're good. All right, judges, that is correct. I'm just too slow.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I'm not watching.
Speaker 3:Caleb got it.
Speaker 4:Caleb got it, I forgot how much scorekeeping sucks, especially with two different places.
Speaker 7:Rob, are you the bank in Monopoly 2?
Speaker 1:No, I'm not allowed to be.
Speaker 7:I got one.
Speaker 4:I got one, Mr Byzantine. What's another name for Advent in the Byzantine rite?
Speaker 6:Oh, I don't know what that answer is yeah.
Speaker 7:Oh, I screwed that up. I don't know. Dude, you just got confirmed he's a.
Speaker 3:LARPer. He's a confirmed LARPer. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6:I asked you a.
Speaker 4:Byzantine question and you don't know it you got. Oh, I can't answer any other questions on byzantine, you guys? Okay, can I?
Speaker 6:answer for the lent, if you get for the latin, if it's wrong well, yeah, how about if you don't know that?
Speaker 1:what's the other name for the advent season in the latin right?
Speaker 6:oh, I think you said lent no you said lent, I had that book open earlier today shit.
Speaker 1:I think grover might have gotten it.
Speaker 7:Everyone just calls it. Is that the right one? I don't even know. I'm screwed. Take my point.
Speaker 6:Margo got the Roman Rite. I delete my comment.
Speaker 4:I can answer the most controversial question we've ever asked. But all right, hold on. You say Margo got it.
Speaker 1:Margo got the one for the Roman right. Did Grover get it right for the Byzantine?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 7:None of you guys know it. Hold on, hold on. It's leading up to Advent. If I give you an answer right now, now, I lose a point. If I'm wrong, if I hold my hand, if you, don't want the point gained.
Speaker 4:You could just guess if you don't want a point gained, but let chris guess, first because he actually has one, and then I'll know I don't.
Speaker 6:I already put with drawn, I already put with drawn is it this?
Speaker 7:is just as a guess. I want to put it out there. Is it saint james fast, close, but no, okay, I just wanted that was just to put it out there. Is it saint james fast, close, but no, okay, I just wanted that was just to put it out there. That was just my guess.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's close, saint phillips, ah, phillips there you go it's also called winter lent in the business team and the other name for it.
Speaker 1:In the latin no way. And the roman right is, uh, st Martin's Lent, st Martin's Lent starts early. It does start early, but yeah but the original season was really that long yeah.
Speaker 4:Okay, so, margo, you did get that point. Should I ask the most controversial question in trivia history?
Speaker 1:Do we want to do it now or save it for the very last one?
Speaker 4:Yeah, we'll make that the last question, okay, Do we want? To do it now or save it for the very last one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll make that the last question, I guess.
Speaker 4:Does that mean Lent is spring Advent? That's actually good, okay. Caiaphas' father-in-law also interrogates Jesus what is his name?
Speaker 6:I got that you seriously don't know this answer no.
Speaker 4:You guys gotta read your Bible, man. You guys have a lot of homework to do.
Speaker 6:I think I know Well, I'm first for once, so I gotta shout it out. Somebody said Lazarus. Alex Staggles said Lazarus, lazarus, yes, think I know. Well, I'm first for once, so I got a shout out somebody said lazar alex tagles and lazareth, lazareth.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, jason once pronounced lazarus as lazareth, and we've never let him live it down you mixed like lazarus with nazareth, yeah no, it was, I don't he.
Speaker 4:the question was in John's gospel whom did Jesus raise from the dead? And Jason said Lazarus, Lazarus. Tommy said Jude and Peter Stein. Forget having your own podcast. Get the basic catechesis first. Forget having your own podcast. Get the basic catechesis first.
Speaker 3:I can see why you guys don't want to do trivia anymore.
Speaker 4:I mean, we're still having fun, it's still fun. It's still fun. It's just holy cow man. Usually we would have guests on that would be fighting to get their initial in the thing. We're getting back for the Atonian Empire question Okay so wait, I did ask a question, right, you did.
Speaker 1:It happened at least once every episode. Father-in-law of Caiaphas.
Speaker 4:Which one are you guys?
Speaker 6:already. It's me. He actually has like three different names depending on where you go and look it up, but it's like Anas or Anias.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Anas is fine.
Speaker 1:With 12 of 20 questions through, should I join and see if I can win at this point?
Speaker 6:Don't do it to us did you know, there's an apocrypha of Caiaphas where he goes crazy. What after? After this? After he killed, like condemns, uh, jesus to the cross, then he goes nuts and there's like a whole thing about how he like goes crazy I wouldn't surprise me yeah, no, no, a lot of those apocrypha may very well have a lot of real history in them.
Speaker 1:They're just not divinely inspired, you know, sure.
Speaker 4:I mean, even if you read Eusebius' church history, it talks about how Herod dies and it's like maggots eat his genitals and it's crazy he already knows.
Speaker 6:It's like it's really ruthless. Do you know how many high priests there were between the birth of Jesus and Caiaphas? It's a lot. It's every year, isn't it? Well, I think it was during Vespasian. One of those guys just kept switching them out every year.
Speaker 4:Well, john makes a in John's gospel. He takes a little dig at Caiaphas and he says Caiaphas was high priest that year. It's a little dig. It's like, oh, that year you were high priest. It used to be a position you held for life.
Speaker 6:Meanwhile, caiaphas was that year and his father-in-law was also the high priest at one time Anas technically should have been the high priest because he was the last one that was installed before they switched him out 16 times, or whatever it was which.
Speaker 4:Pope ordered Jerome to translate the. They switched them out 16 times, or whatever. It was All right. Which Pope ordered Jerome to translate the Bible into Latin.
Speaker 1:This should be well. I think this should be easy.
Speaker 6:I'm just hoping to make you laugh.
Speaker 1:Don't Francis.
Speaker 6:That's my answer no, I think God and Margo, I think you're both wrong.
Speaker 1:I think I see the answer.
Speaker 4:I see a lot of people answering incorrectly on the.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see Locals has it.
Speaker 4:Locals has it. Youtube doesn't have it. Youtube does not have it. I can't believe YouTube doesn't have it.
Speaker 1:Because this is the Pope that canonized the canon at the Council of Rome.
Speaker 4:I think right pretty sure alright, finally, I see it okay. Alright, any of you?
Speaker 6:wasn't it one of the Pope Gregory's no?
Speaker 5:I'll take away my point. Damasus, the first that is correct.
Speaker 4:Finally on the board.
Speaker 1:Good boy, oh, I didn't see Majorian was ahead of me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6:Well good thing, I got it wrong then.
Speaker 4:Tommy said you two is beating the brakes Of locals more. Bobby said Pope Michael.
Speaker 6:Rest in peace, pope michael ii. Right, yes, lofton.
Speaker 3:No real pope michael there is an actual pope michael ii.
Speaker 6:He's in the philippines. Yeah, rest in peace, pope michael ii wait a minute.
Speaker 1:Is he the one that's watching all of our videos in the philippines?
Speaker 6:anthony you know the the pope michael documentary got pulled down, did you see? That it's gone, yeah it was so good too you know I mean there.
Speaker 1:There were rumors that he reconciled with the church right before death. I wonder if, like his family, pulled it down because of that oh really, I didn't hear about that I mean, they were completely unsubstantiated and no evidence. But yeah, just people saying it.
Speaker 4:All right, what was the first group of heretics that paul preaches against in his letters? They seem to have returned otherwise known as mark robinson oh, is this, uh, what I noticed, woodaway? The first group of heretics that Paul preaches against, and they seem to have returned.
Speaker 1:We got correct answers in the chat I got it in the chat.
Speaker 7:It is Bryson Gray Bryson.
Speaker 4:Gray, that's not wrong. Which one are you?
Speaker 6:Trent Hornstein, it's the Judaizers, and we all know it it is the judiaizers hornstein so does phylo.
Speaker 1:Was that you that just answered?
Speaker 6:yeah, does do the judiaizers show up before simon magus?
Speaker 1:simon. I don't know if simon magus is really not a heretic, right, I mean, he's no, he well I guess.
Speaker 6:I guess, maybe not, although he's cited a lot in the Gnostic book by St Irenaeus. Like a lot, laura, avoiding Babylonians, avoiding Babylonians, Avoiding Byzantine, more like it.
Speaker 4:Yes, avoiding Babylonians. That should have been the trivia question. One of Jim's accusations.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm kind of disappointed. He protected his account.
Speaker 4:He opened it, but he deleted everything. He just started it open today.
Speaker 6:Interesting.
Speaker 1:I think he works for the babylon beast secretly no, if it was, if that was the truth, it wouldn't be secret.
Speaker 7:I promise you that what does tim gordon call it? The babylonian talmudic b?
Speaker 6:yeah, they have zero catholics. They shouldn't be making Catholic jokes.
Speaker 1:And if they do, they should at least make funny ones.
Speaker 6:Yeah, they're terrible. There's some of the worst jokes I've ever seen in my life around the Babylon being.
Speaker 4:They used to be funny, all right. So which Pope convinced Attila the Hun not to conquer Rome?
Speaker 1:Oh, this is a good one.
Speaker 4:Which Pope convinced Attila the Hun not to conquer Rome. This is a good one. Which Pope convinced Attila the Hun not to conquer Rome?
Speaker 1:And Attila died not very long after.
Speaker 4:And then Rome was conquered.
Speaker 1:True.
Speaker 4:Rome was conquered after that.
Speaker 6:Yes, but by a different group.
Speaker 5:It lasted another 80 years after.
Speaker 6:Does this happen before or after?
Speaker 1:Someone goes.
Speaker 6:Mulan, does the Pope move to Avignon yet?
Speaker 1:Or no Way before that. This is before Rome sacked by Alaric in 410.
Speaker 6:Got it.
Speaker 1:This is like when.
Speaker 4:Augustine's around.
Speaker 6:Okay, I'll take fiducia.
Speaker 4:Supplicants for 800 all right, we got it in the chat so just continue asking roman history questions, please.
Speaker 5:Uh, it's pope leo the great.
Speaker 1:That is pope leo the great imagine that someone calling themselves majorian gets a room I know the roman lore now I would have the next question.
Speaker 4:I had Rob already answered, but it was what year did Pope Leo the Great stop Attila?
Speaker 1:No, I did not answer.
Speaker 4:You didn't answer it correctly. No, you didn't answer it correctly. What he didn't answer? At all he didn't give the exact year.
Speaker 6:Yeah, he didn't give the exact year.
Speaker 4:He didn't give the exact year, he gave the century.
Speaker 7:No, I didn't. All he said was it was before 410. I said it was before 410.
Speaker 1:That's all I said.
Speaker 4:Anthony his brain is broken. That Attila was before 410?.
Speaker 1:I don't. Rome was stacked once during the Roman Empire. That was in 410 by.
Speaker 4:Elio oh, okay, that's what you said. No, I have not been drinking. That's the problem. It used to be more fun when I would have a beer or two.
Speaker 1:It was a good one or three or four tequilas.
Speaker 5:Are we asking the year Because I have the year?
Speaker 1:I think that was.
Speaker 4:I'll ask the year. If you guys know the year, I don't know the year. If you guys know the year, I don't have to give him an answer.
Speaker 5:This is just bonus points for me.
Speaker 4:Let's go. It's 452. It was 452. Is there anybody?
Speaker 1:answering the chat Rob Todd said 442.
Speaker 4:Close enough. Give Margo a point instead of Todd. Give Margo a point instead of Todd. I'm a point instead of rod instead of todd. Okay, I'm just gonna give her an extra point. There we go. Todd, blew, it are we, are we consider this margo you're back in the 1958.
Speaker 1:Prayers and prayers 1958.
Speaker 4:Um, oh, freaking caleb, you should know this one what's funny is famous, which famous catholic explorer is known for discovering florida?
Speaker 7:why would I know that?
Speaker 4:you're not a conquistador. What? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3:Because, you're brown.
Speaker 4:You should know this one Famous Catholic explorer. I got it on YouTube. Yeah, I got it. Local, says Michael.
Speaker 6:Lofton, I'm not going to be able to say the name right. I'm just warning you. You don't have to say it right, as long as you get it.
Speaker 4:As long as we know what you mean Nope, nobody on Locals. Nobody on Locals. 48 of you, none of you know this.
Speaker 1:He was looking for the fountain of youth. Oh, I know that yeah.
Speaker 4:So he said Joseph Smith Nobody in Los Angeles. Columbus no.
Speaker 1:I've been watching um american primeval. All right man, brigham young was a pile of absolute dude. How good is that?
Speaker 4:show. It is such a good show. It might be the best series netflix for sure has ever produced. Oh yeah, there's nothing even close to it. Like. I cannot say enough good things about that show. Every single episode is amazing. From 10 minutes in, you are hooked on it. All right, which one of you got it?
Speaker 6:Well, I just realized the name in my head is Italian, so it can't be the right person.
Speaker 1:Were you going to say Amerigo Vespucci?
Speaker 6:Yeah, so I'm going to go with what is it? Cruise.
Speaker 5:The answer is Jimmy Akin because he's exploring the mysterious world.
Speaker 1:Because he time-traveled back in time through a wormhole.
Speaker 3:Through an alien wormhole.
Speaker 4:If nobody else knows the answer. I'm giving Majorian a point.
Speaker 3:No, I got it Okay okay, ponce de Leon, yes, that is correct. Okay, that's what I'm talking about, and that is correct. Okay, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:And Chris is back Also, brown.
Speaker 3:Only physically, not spiritually. That's what matters.
Speaker 6:Did you say Pantelones? Is that what I heard?
Speaker 4:Ponce de Leon. Okay, who was? Who was Pablo Escobar?
Speaker 3:Who was my grandfather?
Speaker 4:Who was this? Who was the second Pope? It's in the Roman Canon, guys.
Speaker 1:All the first three are Alright, that's a good hint.
Speaker 4:It's in the Roman Canon.
Speaker 7:What is that he's?
Speaker 1:the first one, one or the other. I've got both in my head right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've got it's four I mean everybody in the chat is guessing the roman canon. So all right, which one you guys got it?
Speaker 6:I got it in the chat both was I first or is caleb ahead of me? Caleb's out of you? No, got it. I got it in the chat both. Was I first or is Caleb ahead of me? Caleb's ahead of you? No, I didn't guess.
Speaker 2:That was my guess. Oh, Chris, you got it.
Speaker 6:Chris got it. I'm pretty sure it's Clement, nope. Okay, so then I know what the other one is.
Speaker 4:There's two other ones that it probably is. Yeah, but I know which one it is. Does anybody else want to guess before he?
Speaker 3:gives the second answer I was going to say Linus.
Speaker 6:That is correct what's the one in between them? Because he's the one that's not mentioned Linus Cletus Clement.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on. Let me look in the chat so.
Speaker 6:I was just thinking of the letter of Pope Clement. That was the one I was thinking of.
Speaker 3:That's right. Latin supremacy.
Speaker 1:We've got Linus in here.
Speaker 6:We've got a Spanish Byzantine and a Latin Slav. What is wrong with this trivia?
Speaker 5:Well, one of the Latin Slavs is Biz also, that's true.
Speaker 6:Why are you guys?
Speaker 2:both Latin. Then, because we're Mexican and Slavic? Yep, they're brown.
Speaker 7:Said by the Arab Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3:Alhamdulillah, let's see.
Speaker 1:I'm Jewish because of the Jew fro.
Speaker 4:If you guys don't know the answer to this, there's gonna be a problem. When is the feast of the Immaculate Conception? What date? This is like basic, basic Catholic knowledge, guys. Come on. God is on fire. Yeah, he is. People guessing March 25th. That is the Annunciation.
Speaker 6:I know that was my first thought too, and I was like that's the. Annunciation.
Speaker 1:Also known as Ring Day.
Speaker 4:Is it?
Speaker 1:The day the ring is destroyed in Lord of the rings oh, I didn't know that nice it's almost like you didn't listen to my uh lenten meditation on it this year
Speaker 4:I think I did. I just forgot because as soon as you said that I remembered. But sharon wants to know what the question was. What. What day do we celebrate the immaculate conception? What day? Everybody in the chat's got? August 15th is another. Sharon wants to know what the question was. What day do we celebrate the Immaculate Conception? Everybody in the chat's got it. August 15th is another Marian.
Speaker 1:Day, not that one.
Speaker 4:August 15th is Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Speaker 1:August 15th is the assumption.
Speaker 4:No, whatever December 15th.
Speaker 1:December 15th yeah, Our.
Speaker 4:Lady of Guadalupe, which one of you?
Speaker 1:guys got it, I got it, it's December 15th.
Speaker 4:December 15th, yeah, our Lady of Guadalupe.
Speaker 3:I like that. Which one of you?
Speaker 6:guys got it, I got it, we got it. It's December 8th. That is correct the day after.
Speaker 1:D-Day. I knew it was an advent.
Speaker 6:I knew that much.
Speaker 1:Wait, who just answered that?
Speaker 4:Antony.
Speaker 1:He's killing it, he is so with that, he just took the lead from From Caleb Him, and Caleb were tied.
Speaker 6:Why can't you ask me when, like you know, the Feast of St Nicholas is, or something?
Speaker 4:I mean it's close enough to the Feast of St Nicholas that you should have known.
Speaker 1:Also, you're so far behind, it doesn't matter. I mean, john, who has not guessed at all, has more points than you, it's not negative.
Speaker 6:I'm negative now. You're negative one right now. Yeah, I didn't even guess.
Speaker 4:Well, no, but it was two questions ago you oh, okay, all right um, I don't think you guys are gonna know a lot of this our lady guadalupe is 12-12 by the way, oh, 12-12. Okay.
Speaker 1:Using the Julian calendar.
Speaker 4:you can just make up any date you want, so fun fact, on the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, december 12th, I was at the Holy House of Loretto in Italy this year, so I was in our lady's.
Speaker 1:Does anybody know what the?
Speaker 4:House of Loretto even is. That'd be a good question. What do you mean? Does anybody know what it is?
Speaker 6:it's. I just said what it was. No, you said it's the house of loretto. You didn't say what it was.
Speaker 1:I think I did, but no, you said the holy house of loretto yeah, that's it, but you don't know oh, you guys were talking over me but I did, I did say what it was.
Speaker 6:I guess I should just see myself out.
Speaker 1:Do you guys know why Anthony really hates trivia? Why we don't ever do it?
Speaker 7:Because all the attention's not on him.
Speaker 1:Right, because people talk over him on the show. I can't stand it. He's just this little corner of the screen.
Speaker 4:Did you guys know that I've been to italy? Have I ever told you guys about okay? Now we can actually get the business guys, we have more questions left um, okay, how many books make up the new testament?
Speaker 6:oh shoot, I don't have that. There we go.
Speaker 1:You should have asked the Old Testament to weed out the convert from the Catholic.
Speaker 4:Tashiki Anthony back from the motherland.
Speaker 1:We got our correct answers in the chat.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 6:Which one I said New Testament, anthony's first. Yeah, I think it's 27. It is 27, correct, going ahead.
Speaker 5:He's just too fast. He's just too fast, I can't do it.
Speaker 1:The real question is did Anthony read? It's that fast South Dakota internet right there? That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6:Did Anthony read Acts 29? That's the real question. Let me see.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 6:That's the real question. Let me say Nobody got the joke.
Speaker 4:No, you've been missing a lot of your jokes. You put a video up the other day about the FBI raiding a wedding.
Speaker 3:How did nobody get that?
Speaker 6:You've been swinging and missing. That was my best joke ever? I don't think it was that good, I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1:You DM'd me. You're like this is my best tweet ever.
Speaker 4:I just pretended I didn't see the DM.
Speaker 2:He disappeared.
Speaker 4:Oh, I'm just teasing. That's part of the show.
Speaker 1:It's like we'll get a text from Jason in the middle of the day being like this is the best tweet ever, and it's like, okay, jason.
Speaker 6:I thought it was funny because of that whole FBI situation two years ago.
Speaker 4:Two years ago. I mean, timing is important when you talk about it.
Speaker 1:You're making a joke about an event two years ago.
Speaker 4:That's how I roll. Which sacred vessel is the most important in the mass? The most important sacred vessel?
Speaker 1:According to the Protestants, it's not Mary.
Speaker 4:I am talking about something they use in the mass. It is not Our Lady.
Speaker 7:I just don't know a lot of these words. I don't know.
Speaker 4:You will. When you hear this, you're going to go. Oh, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 6:You said vessel, sacred vessel.
Speaker 3:Oh no, Don't? The Byzantines have two really important ones.
Speaker 4:I got correct answers in the chat, so any of you guys know.
Speaker 1:Anyone?
Speaker 3:Someone is typing as long as I do. I think Chris you're first, chris goes first, you think.
Speaker 2:Chris, you were first, chris was first, you know it.
Speaker 6:Chris, when you said vessel, I didn't hear vessel, I heard what's the most important thing. I was going to say the tabernacle. So I don't think I'm right.
Speaker 1:Don't answer.
Speaker 6:That's why I'm saying I'm not going to answer, so skip me Does anybody else have a guess?
Speaker 4:Greg says the altar girl, the altar girl.
Speaker 2:Is it majority? Does anybody else have?
Speaker 3:a guess Greg says the altar girl, altar girl, whatever the little thing is, they carry in Pachamama on.
Speaker 4:He gets a point for that. Altar girl is definitely the funniest. No, the vessel, it's, not the host. So people are guessing the host.
Speaker 1:Someone says Majorian's musing equals Majorian losing.
Speaker 6:He does not look happy about that joke. Jason says, I pretend, I don't see Caleb's Instagram friend request.
Speaker 1:What Jason? You said you couldn't be on the show. Why are you in the chat? Yeah, Jason, come on.
Speaker 4:And why won't?
Speaker 7:you accept my friend request.
Speaker 1:Because, little do you know? It's actually his wife that runs his Instagram.
Speaker 7:That's reasonable then.
Speaker 4:The answer is the chalice guys.
Speaker 6:The chalice.
Speaker 2:The thing we put the wine in is the most sacred vessel at Mass, because in many Masses.
Speaker 1:There might not be any other vessel. There's not always a ciborium, for instance.
Speaker 3:Or a patent, or a patent necessarily, or they might not use the metal spoon that they offer the Eucharist on you know. What is the Intinction.
Speaker 7:Plate called.
Speaker 6:What's what? What's the Intinction Plate called?
Speaker 1:We're Latin. What are you talking about?
Speaker 6:They use it.
Speaker 4:I've seen it in latin. I mean, is it the same thing they put under when you go to latin mass?
Speaker 6:no, they know, they use it, for I've seen it at a latin mass before.
Speaker 1:Actually I know what you're talking about the little little metal plate it's like a little plate, I think it's just it's just another patent, I think okay, okay, it's just a patent.
Speaker 6:That's what I thought. Let's try just a patent.
Speaker 4:Let's try this one. I think Majorian's got this one. What do the letters BC and AD stand for? Oh really.
Speaker 1:We want the Latin for AD.
Speaker 4:Yes, the Latin oh.
Speaker 3:Caleb, you got it.
Speaker 2:Damn it, Caleb.
Speaker 3:You only speak Greek.
Speaker 5:I got it. Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 7:Alright, let's hear it Before Christ and Anno Domini.
Speaker 4:Anno Domini. Now, what does Anno Domini mean? The year of our Lord. All right, good.
Speaker 3:Makes biz LARPer.
Speaker 7:LARPer, I pray in Latin bro.
Speaker 1:Jason says jokes on Rob. I'm not married. It's a LARP like Caleb's Byzantine LARP.
Speaker 3:Good one.
Speaker 1:Unc. So with that, caleb you're one behind Anthony.
Speaker 6:Anthony's still in the lead.
Speaker 1:He's still in the lead with six.
Speaker 6:You know what? I don't care what the question is, I'm gonna get this one yeah, that way you can get to zero anthony's gonna find the worst one ever.
Speaker 1:Now that I said that well, anthony, we are at 21 already, so I don't know how long you want to keep actual trivia going um, we're gonna do.
Speaker 4:We're gonna do two more questions to give Caleb a chance to win.
Speaker 1:Now don't forget what you want the last question to be, that controversial one?
Speaker 4:Oh, that's right.
Speaker 1:So you want two or three.
Speaker 4:We're going to do one more, see if Caleb gets it right, and then we'll do a tiebreaker.
Speaker 1:Okay, so for the chat. Just so chat knows who's winning there, we have hold on. I got to put out this formula that far. So the clear winner right now in the chat is Todd with seven. But we do have how many does Margo have. Margo's got five. She's got the second most. Second most. Then we have fern and selenol with four.
Speaker 4:So if margo were to get the next two, she would tie with god. I, I am. I kind of want to give it to margo tonight, so I'm hoping margo gets it like I'm. May even break the rules to make make sure gets it.
Speaker 1:No, come on. We've never broken the rules up to this point.
Speaker 4:We can't start now. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see, okay.
Speaker 1:Carry the one. Yeah, I did that.
Speaker 4:Okay, I got a lot of good questions here. A feast day and the seven days following Are called what?
Speaker 1:What? What's one plus eight?
Speaker 4:and put it in Latin A feast day and the seven days after, so you have the feast of and then the seven days after.
Speaker 1:Todd, your answer came in blank.
Speaker 6:I'm sorry, I don't know what you said, Todd. I see Margo got in before.
Speaker 1:Todd, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know.
Speaker 4:I think you're screwed up, Rob.
Speaker 1:No, like I said, Todd's answer was blank. I don't know what it could be.
Speaker 6:Does my C count way up there or not? Did anybody else get in it doesn't? No, no, lame, the question wasn't even asked yet. Yeah, but I said I'm putting it in now, remember.
Speaker 1:Did anybody get in the question?
Speaker 3:doesn't need to be asked. Anthony got in first. Yeah, you're right, chris is up.
Speaker 6:You're? Yeah, you're right, chris is up the octave. Wait a second who?
Speaker 3:said it, Tony go. Oh, I was just going to say the octave. Yeah, that's correct. I thought you said me.
Speaker 1:Are we giving that point to Anthony or Caleb?
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 7:By the way, it's the octave.
Speaker 4:Final question, final question.
Speaker 1:Am I giving that to Anthony?
Speaker 6:No.
Speaker 7:Yeah, let him mercy kill me.
Speaker 1:Is this next one worth three points?
Speaker 4:No, this next one is for the chat.
Speaker 1:For the chat only.
Speaker 4:When did the church start? Oh come on.
Speaker 1:Really, we went on a 45 minute what is the birth of the church? Oh mississippi goes, oh boy the thing is, I don't even know who to count is, right until I know what side you're gonna land on on this oh, todd says the garden of eden, margo says the cross, sharon, and then of course we have pentecost, so the debate is does?
Speaker 4:it start on the dean the debate is does it start on the cross, when the side of christ is pierced and blood full flows from his side? So, like that would be the? You know, the bride of christ comes from his side, just like from the side of adam. But it's also pentecost, when the holy spirit descends upon them, and we had a an all-out war over this question but at the the same time like.
Speaker 1:Todd is kind of right with the Garden of Eden too. Well, if you're going to go to the no.
Speaker 3:No, but Wait, wait, wait. I was just going to say. St Maximus the Confessor says that Christ created everything on the cross.
Speaker 5:So it's all right, we remove Eastern Saints. Everything on the cross, sorry, we remove Eastern Saints. Nobody is LARPing aloud.
Speaker 4:Jesus in 1054, where the ceremony begins.
Speaker 1:All right, so now comes the time where we decide the winner and hold on, hold on, let me see, let me see if anyone I want to hear the scores, because I really kind of? Are we going with the cross?
Speaker 4:yeah, we're going with the cross, okay, I thought so Okay.
Speaker 1:so if we go with the cross, margo and Todd tie.
Speaker 4:Okay, now beneath them. I want to hear who's got the next most on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Matthew G has five, fern has four, selenol has four.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay. And then what about on locals?
Speaker 1:What do you mean? No, I didn't separate them.
Speaker 4:Oh, oh, oh, oh, all right, so I really do want to give it to Margo. So I'm going to give it to Selen Oil instead. You're the worst. I know Margo really wants that bottle of wine, but I just can't give it to her.
Speaker 1:Hey, margo, message me and I will send you whatever bottle of wine from their website you want. Anthony can send his to sell it all. You are the worst.
Speaker 4:I'm the worst.
Speaker 1:I'm the worst. What's funny is, todd is the one that actually won.
Speaker 4:Todd's not getting anything from me. Can I make?
Speaker 1:it. Todd says he's turning you into the gaming commission in New York. He probably actually has a case. I mean they have a document on your brother already.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the fact is you guys never even saw one old trivia show. But the most fun part of the show is when I don't give the prize to the winner and they try their best to win the whole show is when I don't give the prize to the winner and they, like they try their best to win the whole show and then they don't get the prize okay, so selling all email.
Speaker 1:Hold on, email us at team at avoiding Babylon dot com. Send us your name and address and we'll send out a bottle. And Margo, like I said, message me and we'll send you a bottle yeah, we will send a bottle.
Speaker 4:Rob will send the bottle out, I will send the bottle out, I will send the bottle out, and you guys are our winners tonight. So you can either do team and avoiding Babylon or DM one of us on Twitter if that's easier for you.
Speaker 1:And Anthony you won, so I guess that means you get to have trivia.
Speaker 4:Yeah, listen, I'm going to say I make your content better. Maybe, I hate you. Yeah listen, I'm gonna say I make your content better maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe you guys aren't the right ones to hand the trivia, maybe this isn't the end.
Speaker 4:After all, I can do roman history, another one. We have to. You know what we're gonna do, because these guys clearly can't do trivia. Um, we're going to see if any other shows do want to do it rob, like, maybe we should. Maybe we should put that out there. To any any other catholic podcast want to inherit trivia, unless you guys want to do it, but like you guys got to study your faith a little bit actually.
Speaker 4:You really don't, if you're the ones running it yeah can't you be, I'll have all the answers well, the well the host I mean you actually learn as you do the show, like that's the interesting thing, um can it be any worse than this?
Speaker 4:um, you actually do learn as you do it. Uh, you have to be able to discuss the yeah like. But part of the fun of the show, especially when we have people that actually knew the catholic faith on and not these heretics. Like it was fun to argue over different like. Like some questions were like there could have been two answers that we would fight over them. So, like me and jason would fight all the time on the show it it was always a fun thing. Does Anthony like John now or still hate him? What do you mean? I don't hate.
Speaker 1:John.
Speaker 3:John who? John, oh yeah, I forgot he was here.
Speaker 4:I didn't say it all, Michael. I said Anthony should find a different podcast partner. That's not the same thing as not liking him it wasn't personal.
Speaker 3:I'm the one doing all the talking in that clip.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what it was. He sent us a three-minute clip and he was the one chatting and he was talking about lifting weights and I'm like he was talking to me in the chat.
Speaker 7:Well, anthony, the thing is is that Tony was going to send you an eight-minute clip or something like that, and I begged him to let me edit it and send it to you, so that was actually the best possible version of what he was going to send to you.
Speaker 4:The. Thing about doing this.
Speaker 4:All right, so trivia is over, but I'm going to say, like the thing about doing a show, the hardest thing is coming up with stuff to talk about. Like it really is tricky to like come up with something that people want to hear about. So, like I spend my day like on show days. It's like, oh man, what the hell are we going to talk about? I just got to like rack my brain. Hopefully there's something that sparks my interest on twitter or there's a news story or something, and it's always good to have another perspective like I, I didn't, I never wanted to do this episode.
Speaker 4:I can now eat meat tomorrow um, I, I always needed rob with me to have somebody to bounce ideas off of, like I was never going to be able to do this alone. I need somebody there to you know, like uh, be a. Um, what do you call that? Like a? Uh, there's a, there's a name for it and I can't remember it anyway, yeah, they gave away a lot wine during lent.
Speaker 1:It's like dangling meat in my face on fridays. Wow, that came out way gayer than I thought.
Speaker 4:You could always save it for Easter. I mean, it's going to probably take a week or two to get to you anyway, it would be good to save for Easter.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Instead of 12 ounces, it'll have 11.
Speaker 4:Todd says Ant gets his notes for the show and makeup comes in cold like an old school news anchor. Yeah, honestly, it's typically rob. Rob will text me on show nights around eight and he'll be like you have any ideas yet? And I'm like in the morning, yeah, I'll be like I got one or two, but hold off, and I'll throw the idea to rob and say what do you think of this? Like well, and I'll give him like what I'm thinking and he'll give me a little feedback on it and then usually by 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, we kind of know what we're going to talk about that day. Sometimes there's something huge going on and it's easy.
Speaker 5:You guys just need me to tweet about a group picture.
Speaker 4:No but in reality sometimes something like that happens and it's just like this is what we're talking about tonight and it's I come in loaded and ready to go, you know, and then and it's always good, because we already had Mike Panty like booked for that show that was the perfect guess to talk about, um, how men can have an argument and then just talk it out after, and it doesn't have to turn into this I'm never talking to you again thing like men just handle things differently than women. So it's like one of the things I'm concerned with right now and I'll say this on this side. I wouldn't say this on on youtube, but um, we're still on youtube.
Speaker 1:Fyi, yeah, it's members. Okay, I just wanted to let you know.
Speaker 4:It's like I wouldn't say this publicly, but on YouTube. But we're still on YouTube. Fyi, yeah, it was members. Okay, I just wanted to let you know. It's like I wouldn't say this publicly, but the the whole thing that everybody's getting upset about. That's not charitable. Don't talk about this person. Don't talk about this person. That's not charitable. It's like can all of you man up Like who up? Like for real, somebody talked about you. Like yeah, are you gonna cry like some other, some other youtuber doesn't like you? Or something like just shut up, who cares? Like I? I don't understand it.
Speaker 5:It's like they're not very charitable I tweeted that tweet at 11 50 before I went to sleep. I just saw a picture. I was like that's gay, let me talk about that. I tweeted it and then, like you'd think, I like, I like kicked their mother or something like it was not that the thing is.
Speaker 4:Most wouldn't defend their own mother as much as they defend bs like that to me the um, even what I said about voice of reason, like yeah, I came on like a little, a little harsh, but like I loved it but like I didn't even say anything insulting, it was just like, bro, you dropped the ball on this.
Speaker 4:Like you dropped them. Like why would? If somebody did that about me? I would just call him up and be like hey, let's talk about it. Like, yeah, all right, I messed up on a few spots, but like I saw him on future podcasts, like I saw him talking to somebody else talking about he you know, the reaction in the comments are just so good and I think we just handled that so well.
Speaker 5:And it's like I can't do it.
Speaker 6:I would be flattered if I screwed up so bad that people were talking about it.
Speaker 3:That's what I did.
Speaker 4:The thing is the Protestants loved it, yeah, and then I got pope frad condemning me the next day, right. So but even that, like like dude who cares if I said something like I don't know, it's not, I like it's not the same thing as like doing every show critiquing somebody and saying don't listen to this person, like lofton was doing.
Speaker 1:that's not what I'm like telling people they have to go to confession for what they said. Yeah, you never. You've never said that, you just said dude, you, you could have done better.
Speaker 4:You could have done better. Yeah, you could have done better. I was like you didn't say anything heretical, like you just you could have done better, like that should be a fraternal correction that he receives. Well, I don't, I just don't understand how soft everyone is. Yeah, even even the tweet I put out the other day where somebody was like Mary was just a lowly vessel that God used to birth Christ, and I said your mother is just a sperm receptacle that your father used to birth you, and people reacted to me like I said something horrible. I'm like that's literally what he just said.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile, what you said to him got him to realize he was spouting the story in heresy.
Speaker 4:Correct. So the way people react to somebody talking about them, it's like who cares if somebody's talking about you Like I don't know man, I just I think the whole like Catholic sphere needs to like snap out of this feminist gay shit.
Speaker 5:Like my stop at all of you my problem with it is that they're not consistent. Like they will happily snipe at like sspx, or oh for sure him, uh trent has gone after tim gordon for like five years, pretty much like. And like I'm not gonna shit on trent, all I mean I think he's gotten enough on twitter, um, but like uh he'll, it's five years over one debate, basically. And like it's not just him, it's like they'll always throw the sspx guys on the bus, everything like that. But like the moment some catholic e-girl that posts feet pics gets a little bit of criticism, it's like that the world is destroyed, you know?
Speaker 4:Let me just tell you something. If they loved her, they would tell her the truth. Yes, if they loved her in true charity, they would tell her hey, you need to stop doing this Like that's true charity. Which person are we talking about? We're talking about religious hippies, so if you're posting things that are riling men up, someone close to her needs to tell her hey, you need to stop doing this because you're causing scandal.
Speaker 7:Stop it, it's gay, yeah, but like seriously something what a good friend would do, and she knows it too, and that's what makes it worse. Like she blocks. Uh, taffy always has the clip where she reads a comment that says thirst trap for trads, then goes ha, ha and moves on to the next comment yeah, people are telling you that. You clearly like it's not even where we could sit there and go. She has a logical mind. She obviously knows. Like that's already enough of a condemnation, but we have a video of you acknowledging that you are scandalizing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and she thinks it's funny yeah, look the thing with trent um. I feel I genuinely have empathy for him because I would be so upset if people were saying something about my wife, and I also do give him credit for getting her off the Internet. Like he did get her off the Internet. I mean, I don't know what went down there, but he got her off the Internet. Like he was like enough of this. You know, I don't know if that's how it went down, but he got her off the internet. So she made some mistakes and then he said you gotta, I guess, but I don't know, like it continued on for so long. So I don't know, but I just think it's a, it's a to to go on, you know, to go on the biggest Catholic podcast out there, like the like he Matt Fradd show is the biggest show out there, and just say stuff carelessly about your husband, like that, Like I don't know that, I w I don't know how, I don't know I don't know I would.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't be able to look at my wife after that.
Speaker 5:In a sense, people are almost too honest on the internet. It's like internet. It's like. It's like all those guys that are, uh, they'll like if. If you're like all like those nofap guys that will talk about their like, their journey and they'll talk about that nobody we don't need to need that.
Speaker 2:We don't need to know nobody. It's fine find a friend in real life.
Speaker 5:If you want to do that, don't put it on twitter. Stop, stop talking people.
Speaker 4:People think the internet is a confessional. They think it's a um like a like you're at your therapist or something. It's crazy and the things that some people say, and I'm guilty of that too.
Speaker 2:I've said too much too, but I don't know man it that's usually why I try to stay clear of online posting anything. I know I have a tendency to anger. I know I have a tendency to obsess over things and maybe talk a little too much, so I just usually keep quiet. It seems like the best option for at least me and my family.
Speaker 4:Yeah, dude, the internet is something that you could lose your soul very easily on and it kind of sucks that, especially if you're doing a podcast, like you kind of need to know what's going on in the culture and stuff like that, so you're going to use that as an excuse to use it more than you probably need to. It's dangerous stuff we're playing with, but the whole the, the, the whole thing with like the mainstream Catholic group right now like I'm worried that it's not Catholic.
Speaker 3:Like.
Speaker 4:I'm really worried that it's just. It's just this watered down version of the faith that is. It's leading men to let their wives go out and work. It's leading everybody to live this milquetoast faith. That's like just be charitable to everybody, just be nice to everybody and then if you say something mean, that's it. You're out Like you're an evil person Cause you criticize somebody and, like you, you do have to be careful of your tongue. But I'm not surprised when I see the reactions of people on the internet Like, well, I I'm baffled by the things people put out there in their personal lives on the internet.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like the problem with the picture, other than it being looking gay, was that it looks Protestant. It just felt very like Protestant youth group vibes. Like I come from a Protestant background, that felt like a Protestant thing and it's just, and also the picture of them praying don't even get me started on that, but like, and it wasn't just me alone, saying that the people who were criticizing me were trying to say it was just me being crazy. But you know, I had a ton of people, all the every groiper in the world was behind me, which is strange because they're not usually. But it was uh, it was a, it was a wild time, I don't know the thing is it's.
Speaker 4:It's it's hard to like when something like that happens, to not get caught up in it like I. I don't know, I just know if you're presenting it's kind of like the jonathan roomie jesus, like it's. It's this gentle j Jesus version they're giving to everybody. Just love everybody, man. It's like hippie stuff, it's not like real masculinity, it's I don't know.
Speaker 5:It may work on some women, but it's not working on young men.
Speaker 4:That's what it is. It's like even Father Mike Schmitz I, who I love to listen to with my kids on the way to mass and stuff, because he's really good for girls to listen to. He presents things logically and they, they. They don't sound harsh, they're very gentle, so, especially for somebody new coming into the faith, but he's, he's not like I don't know. I see so many young guys going to orthodoxy because they see men. Uh, I think that.
Speaker 7:I think that, like a lot of people, I don't know, when I see the version of like jesus that they put forward, I go. My dad is manlier than that like why would?
Speaker 7:I, your like my dad, is a more is a more impressive figure for me, like I have a dad, so I have someone who models, uh, like, what a Christian man looks like in my life, and I think it's probably just like men who don't have male figures to look up to in their lives, and then women who think that they, who just that's their idealized, that's what they think men should be like, you know.
Speaker 4:But they're not even attracted to that. That's what's crazy. Like they they present the Jonathan R Jesus and they think that's the Jesus they're going to fall in love with. But that Jesus is a pushover. But if you go through the Gospels, every other line is and Jesus said this with authority, not like the scribes and Pharisees.
Speaker 4:He spoke with authority. Like that is such an important thing. When Jesus is in the Garden of Gethsemane and they looking for him and he says I am he, they fall to the ground. Like this is really important that people realize how authoritative he was, that when he spoke the Pharisees their cores were shook because the way he taught was otherworldly. He was not like anything that can be portrayed on film. I don't think. I really think the way he went through the world people were like the apostles would ask if they could touch him and stuff. Like he just had this presence about him. That I don't think can be portrayed on film, and especially not when he's in the temple confronting the pharisees and and the and the apostles are protecting him, like he's standing behind them while they protect him.
Speaker 2:It's like it's just such nonsense to me well, and even in our last show I was telling tony about something that happened because I'm still going through ocia and all that and before the consecration of, the host were excused downstairs and we had this breaking open the word and we go through the readings and it was during the transfiguration of our Lord and all these people were saying, oh man, they were wanting to build tents. They must have been so happy, they want him and Moses and the prophet there and they just want to, like, hang out with him all the time. And I'm like, did you not read the other part of that verse? Did you miss it completely? Terrified, terrified. They were struck with fear, exactly, and I pulled up the greek icon of all three of them sitting in fear and just terrified of what they're seeing and that's even the tents, even the building tents.
Speaker 4:the building the tents is a reference to the arc of the covenant. Like it's, it's a tabernacle that they want to build because what they're seeing is so holy that they're like should we build tents and make a tabernacle here so that, like this is the glory of God?
Speaker 2:We're with something so beautiful that is so terrifying at the same time it's the same thing as the icon that I have behind me, which is christ. The bridegroom and it's christ in his kingly garb is, and I've had protestants complain to me about catholics having the corpus upon the cross, upon the crucifix. Why do you have that? It makes me feel bad, tough. I don't know what to tell you. This is the most beautiful and manly thing that ever happened yeah, it's the meaning of life.
Speaker 4:It was him suffering. What's interesting about the transfiguration also is when he comes down from the mountain. He comes down. So he's up on the mountain, they, they excel to like towards heaven. They go up a mountain, they see the transfiguration, they're struck with awe and fear. Then, when they come down, they, uh, he comes down and the other disciple, the other apostles, couldn't um, they couldn't cure the man who was possessed.
Speaker 4:Like the demon wouldn't leave the man, and jesus gets so frustrated with him. He's like how long must I be with you people? Like, how long do I have to endure you? How little faith do you have? You know, but it's not the way they presented in the chosen, where jesus is, like I, I tried to talk to them and they just don't get it. They just don't get it. It's not. It's this like masculine frustration. It's like, just how long do I have to endure you people? I just want to go die on the cross. Like that's literally what he's saying, you know, like he has to stay with them a bit longer before he can actually go and do what he has to do. What's your guy's channel name?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're. What's your guy's channel name? Oh boy, isn't it Anthony's name?
Speaker 6:it's Anthony's name.
Speaker 2:Anthony's channel, but it's Latin Slavs podcast. Usually something like that. We have to start posting on YouTube. We've been lacking on that lately.
Speaker 4:YouTube is the best platform to grow your channel because if people start watching it, they do organically spread your video further and further as you go. Like it is the best, like the. The thing with with twitter is you don't actually know how many people are watching, because if somebody clicks on it it counts as a number. It doesn't show you if they left. So if 200 people at some point click, you think you got 200 people watching. Really, there's 12 people watching and you don't know. You think you're talking to 200 people. It's tricky. That makes sense.
Speaker 6:So which one of you guys is going to interview Michael Lofton first? Oh, it'll be me.
Speaker 5:I have an ability to make people that hate me like me. It's just my talent, does Michael? Often hate you.
Speaker 3:He will.
Speaker 5:He saw the group selfie he does.
Speaker 6:He blocked me after one tweet.
Speaker 7:I've never saw the tweet of him.
Speaker 6:I just said hi, I think it was something stupid. There was a meme attached to it and he blocked me.
Speaker 1:The meme might have had something to do with it.
Speaker 4:Is Rob or Anthony to blame for giving trivia to people who don't know trivia and don't even know their YouTube channel name? Anthony is.
Speaker 1:Actually I think I might have been the one who came up with this idea.
Speaker 6:I think Majorian's got it. It's his trivia now, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I don't have a channel.
Speaker 5:Exactly I'm trying to. Caleb's got a partner with me so I can bully him every day.
Speaker 7:You can join. But yeah, you can join.
Speaker 4:How did you guys find our channel? I've been, I forgot.
Speaker 5:I've been watching you since prior to co-sleeping. I mean, it's been a long time. I think Anthony was my second follower on this Twitter account, which is kind of oh really the first one was Pinesap.
Speaker 4:I always follow anybody back that watches the show. If somebody wants to send me a DM, I want them to be able to. I'm not trying to hide myself off from the people that watch the show.
Speaker 1:I don't I know.
Speaker 7:I saw when you guys, uh, when Trent horn came on for the first time after he was going after Kennedy and all the people for young earth creationism because I decided to convert because of a Trent horn debate which is funny Cause I'm like his biggest op now but, um, I was watching a ton of Trent horn Then I was like, oh, this is Epic, and that's when I was working construction, so I just have my headphones in and then I would just be working outside all day listening to avoiding Babylon.
Speaker 1:Um, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6:Which one of you guys is going to interview Lila Rose first.
Speaker 1:That's the other question no, I won't have women on my channel.
Speaker 5:I think I'm blocked honestly, I'm surprised I haven't been blocked yet. I go after her like every day, literally every day, because I just keep talking about her charity.
Speaker 6:With that. The one thing that doesn't make sense to me is just the money. It's like what's going on here?
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Oh, with her. Yeah, her charities. It's crazy I've 14 million dollars and like none of it goes to lobbying and it all goes to making a podcast.
Speaker 5:It seems bizarre yeah, I, uh, I'm vaguely involved in the political scene and no pro-life groups lobby at all, it's just I. I don't know where that money is going, but it's none of it goes to lobbying it goes to. That's what I've heard it goes to lila rose's bank account, basically because, like past three years, she's lost money in her charity, but her salary is increased every year. Yep, make it make sense I don't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they always show a deficit, they always show a deficit, they always show a deficit and she always gets a raise. It really is strange. She got a 25% raise in one year. The thing is I've okay. So there is the temptation to want to get brought on a podcast like Matt Fradd. That gives exposure to the channel and you want to kind of be friendly with those guys and be accepted into the mainstream but I everyone wants some of that phylos money, right well well, you want, you want the attention for the channel.
Speaker 4:but you, what happens is you lose your edge and you're afraid to say things at that point because now you don't want to offend those people and it's like there's something freeing about accepting that. Yeah, you're afraid to say things at that point because now you don't want to offend those people and it's like there's something freeing about accepting that yeah, I actually don't want Lila Rose on the podcast, you know, then you could actually criticize some of the awful things she's, because she's doing some awful things financially, like it really is pretty terrible. So there's something freeing about just accepting like, yeah, I'm never going to have have her on and I don't want to have her on like I don't want to talk to religious hippie at all.
Speaker 6:You know I did have trent on. The first three years of this channel was literally nothing but answering hey, matt frad platformed peter diamond before he platformed you, anthony. What does that tell you?
Speaker 4:the I I don't, well, I I I mean, if you guys want to know my opinion, I really don't think I'll ever be on there, and I think it's because of our opinions. Well, first off, it's because of he thinks I'm talking about his friends, and also I really think it's because of the jewish question, like I really think that that's my issue probably a lot of it. Yeah, I think they're presenting Catholic Zionism.
Speaker 7:Yes, Well, my issue is for my podcast. I want it to be this is I kept badgering Nick Cavazos in his comments about it when he was saying he was going to start making political content. Is that there's no Catholic political content exclusively on YouTube?
Speaker 5:really You're with the right party buddy.
Speaker 1:I want to make New polity, new polity, new policy.
Speaker 7:okay, yes but they're more, they're.
Speaker 1:They're more than just that, though true, and so I was wanting political philosophy.
Speaker 7:Is what yeah, so that's kind of what I was wanting to do and it's like I can't if I want to do political philosophy and I want it to be authentically catholic. When, how could I possibly talk to trent horn? How could I possibly talk to lila? How could I possibly talk to Lila Rose? Like, hey, there, trent, like you know, I don't know, you can't, how do you?
Speaker 1:feel about these quotes from St John Chrysostom? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Here's Brother Dennis Fahey.
Speaker 4:I think it's. I think, well, the thing is the day Trent went on. The this all better stay private. You guys, everybody watching this.
Speaker 1:This part's not getting released properly.
Speaker 4:None of this is getting like. This is a private conversation. I mean, I don't know how many people watch. This has got to stay pretty private guys.
Speaker 6:You find out that Matt Fradd's locals whoa wait a second.
Speaker 4:We have a total of 59 people watching right now, so we're good yeah, so the um, the thing is, I don't know, but what I know is that when there is someone, named uh, named uh, fat mrad in the um, the thing is when, when trent went on the phylos conference thing, like the next day matt released that whole dialogue about anti-semitism and it just seemed very coordinated you know it was and it, uh, somebody had actually texted me. I won't say, because I don't want to blow his spot but they're basically like dialogues.
Speaker 4:Somebody texted me this and they're basically like lila rose is their politics trend horn is their apologetics, matt frat is their cultural figure, religious hippies are influencer. Like it's, it's very coordinated what's going on, like you know, yeah masada has it planned out really well there's just money behind it. It's not, you know, and it's very, it's a very gentle version of catholicism brought. They don't. They don't discuss anything too controversial. Francis is the pope, everything's fine I'm not saying, I'm just saying it's just, they won't.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they won't touch the sspx issue during the cmri. They won't. They won't touch anything that's even remotely controversial. Um, there's, you could see in the guests that come on there, it's way more friendly to protestants than it is to catholics who are in the faith. It's like it's a whole. It's a whole thing that's happening and, yeah, we're controlled opposition.
Speaker 1:The thing is, though, that someone did claim that the other day because we we had the the lore lodge guy who was freemason, we had that clip. Did you see that comment on?
Speaker 4:funny. I just thought it was funny, like I just think something's funny, I'm gonna play it like the. But even the, even the phone call or the text I got from that felt like intimidation, like his own gentle way of saying hey brother, you shouldn't you ever want a chance it's, it's all, it's all yeah, it's almost like yeah, dude, I don't care, like, I don't, like, I don't, I don't care that much.
Speaker 6:You're building an alternative route to success.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'd rather just be us and not have to worry, and you know, like there's a freedom in it. I'm telling you where you're, just like all right, you know those guys, I'm too out there for them. Fine, I don't care. There's people that like what we do.
Speaker 7:There's a difference between. There are some people who can stay. There are some people who know the truth and stay mainstream enough to kind of push people down the slope. Like Tucker Carlson, I think, for the most part knows the truth and he stays. He can get, he can platform on the mainstream. He pushes people down the slope. Candace Owens, for the most part, knows the truth, pushes people down the slope. And then there are people who are sheep dogs, who are basically like guard the flock. Well, no, that's too controversial, you can't say this, that's too controversial, you can't say that. Uh, joe rogan, uh, most catholic answer style people are that like, they push away the ideas. Oh, like, you know, we're all trad. But then as soon as someone makes a comment about like oh, I'm italian, I want to marry an italian person, whoa like hey, hey, now it's a marriage. It's a marriage. All these things cause issues.
Speaker 1:Italian's not a thing.
Speaker 7:You know what I'm saying? I?
Speaker 4:used it as an example. The thing is, when you're in that situation and you have that many friends, you're not free to speak your mind. You're not you. You're not free to speak your mind. You're not. You really aren't free to speak your mind because you're going to offend somebody that came on your show and you have a relationship with them, so you're not free. Trying to be wide appeal like that, it was my goal at first. I'm not going to lie. When me and Rob used to talk, I was like, oh, we could, we could make this thing huge. And then I kind of just got to a point where I was like I don't think we're ever gonna be huge and I'm totally fine with that.
Speaker 1:I'm actually like where we are now is a very comfortable place for like two years I try to tell them like, like, do we want to like compromise just to get yeah, you know, to reach the mainstream and it and it wasn't compromising so much as like tim gordon called me out on it.
Speaker 4:Tim gordon called me out on he's like you're too agreeable and amicable kennedy did too.
Speaker 1:I know kennedy did yeah kennedy did too.
Speaker 4:He's like, dude, you're trying to make friends with people that you don't realize.
Speaker 4:These guys, you can't, you can't like it's, it's, it's ersatz Catholicism. It's just, uh, um, oh for sure, like that, there are some, there are some lines I just like I literally was about to like lose everything over that, so but, but, but it comes to this stuff too, and I and the thing is, I try to share it with you guys as we're doing it, like I'm like, like these are the things that I wrestle with in my head and I kind of blurt them out on the local side just because, like I want the people that actually care about the show to see the struggle we're going through. It's not, it's not as simple as um, like it's not as simple as just do your show and it grows organically right, it doesn't you kind of do need bigger guys to have you on and stuff, and that boosts your profile and it's. It's a difficult thing to have a podcast and make it grow organically without the algorithm, make sure it can't grow organically right like it is all fake in a sense.
Speaker 1:So you do have to play that algorithm yeah so it's.
Speaker 4:What we've been doing is just trying to find interesting things to talk about that we think other people are interested in, and trying to speak our minds, a little like the, the episode I came on and started talking about, like the world ending like I don't know what I was thinking, but I just want like these thoughts were going through my head, whatever you were thinking you think every 8 to 12 months, yeah I can almost time it but there's always a development.
Speaker 4:It was a cycle. There's always a development to it. Like I like, I like when I have a development in my thought, right, like, so I'll catch something somewhere and it'll make me like. It was that Sam Shamoon conversation that I had, where it was like, oh my goodness, like I see what they're doing. It was a combination of Sam Shamoon and Cardinal Dolan talking about Ramadan and I'm like they're trying to get us to worship the devil, like that's basically what they're doing.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile. I'm like you said this a year ago.
Speaker 4:But not like that no not exactly like that.
Speaker 7:Me and Rob Y2K.
Speaker 4:Did I fall for it? Yeah, okay. So my parents? My mom was like a Medjugorje fanatic.
Speaker 1:And she was fully convinced. In the year 2000 the world was like 18 or 19. So he hasn't. He doesn't remember why.
Speaker 4:2k oh, I certainly do. My mom had the basement stocked with cans of food. She was a prepper dude. She had all the mormon food ready to go. Not even kidding man, my basement was stocked with food.
Speaker 6:She thought the freaking world was gonna end and I can tell you guys a story about y2k. After anthony done, New Year's Eve New.
Speaker 4:Year's Eve 99, going into 2000. I was at a friend's house and at midnight I went downstairs and clicked the power out in the house on his on his circuit breaker. I was in the basement, I was waiting when they got the one. I just clicked the whole power down in the house. Everybody freaked out, lost their minds. It was actually hilarious. That's a good clip.
Speaker 1:How have I never heard that one before?
Speaker 4:I told that on air. I never told that on air it was freaking hilarious.
Speaker 5:He checks out.
Speaker 6:No, I was not. My dad worked for all the tech companies back then. Everybody's freaking out. He got a million phone calls New Year's Eve that night and he had to stay on the computer and watch the seconds tick till it hit midnight that night.
Speaker 5:I was alive in 2000. I was not I was one.
Speaker 7:I was not conceived yet I was one. How old are you Me? Yeah, I was born in 2002 and my birthday is about to come up 2002?.
Speaker 5:My son was born in 2007.
Speaker 6:Anybody besides Anthony and Rob, older than me.
Speaker 1:Hold on. How old are you, Chris?
Speaker 6:I'm turning 33 this year.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, I am older than you, jesus number 33 is an this year.
Speaker 4:Oh shit, I am older than you, jesus. Number 33 is an important year.
Speaker 6:Yeah, my kids remind me that all the time. They're like you're turning the year that Jesus died, Dad.
Speaker 4:Thanks, thanks for letting me know. Yeah, all right, I mean, we can wrap this up, but. No.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute, everyone just wait a minute.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, everyone just wait a minute. I'm not actually removing anyone from the show right now.
Speaker 4:You can't pull it off.
Speaker 6:Not Italian enough, apparently.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's not spanish enough iberian supremacy no peninsular supremacy all
Speaker 4:right, so what? What do you guys want to promote? What do you guys got?
Speaker 6:I'm gonna promote my lack of channel. Follow me on.
Speaker 5:Twitter I'm going to promote MacTorian's lack of channel. Follow me on Twitter. My handle's right there.
Speaker 7:I'm putting out a video on Saturday and I'll clip it as well. So we're doing a live stream Saturday morning with. I have a lot of connections with the TFP and so I'm doing it with one of my friends who's like a high up member there or not a member, I guess, I don't know. He worked for the TFP and we're talking about their ideas, kind of like diagnosing the revolution and how Catholics should kind of act to counteract the revolution, that's destroying our lives.
Speaker 7:What's the TFP? The TFP is the Society for Tradition, family and Property. They were founded in Brazil and now they're really big over here in America too. They were the ones ones. If you watch the black mass video from the live streams, all those giant red banners that were hanging at the state capitol, that's them. They are the ones playing the bagpipes, all that kind of stuff. God bless them um?
Speaker 4:what time is the show?
Speaker 7:saturday saturday it'll be at 9 am. I'm just I'm just gonna live stream it so that I can have it out there, and then I'm going to mainly clip it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right up against our Father Moseley talk, I'm sure they'll tune in. No, father Moseley's 10 am, not 9 am, it's 10 am Eastern this Saturday.
Speaker 3:All right, Anthony, your channel.
Speaker 4:Is what Latin Slavs? Or is it Anthony Campbell?
Speaker 3:No, it's the Latin Slavs. But right now, just up on my Twitter page, or Exeter, as Antonius used to say. But yeah, we're trying to figure that out with StreamYard and StreamLabs. See which one's cheaper, which one can multi-stream better.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, are you, antonius?
Speaker 3:No, I'm not. We miss him, we miss him, we miss him.
Speaker 5:We need him back. I tried to be him, but I can't do it. I'm not as good. I need to keep my job with the diocese I don't.
Speaker 4:And, John, you come into the church this Easter, I do.
Speaker 2:We have our first confession this Saturday. Oh God bless you, you bringing your wife in. Yes, sir.
Speaker 4:Oh wife in.
Speaker 6:Yes, sir, I'm looking for a median wife W yeah, very good.
Speaker 4:And Chris crash, cannon right crash, yeah, yeah crash cannon.
Speaker 6:I've got some other stuff too, but just just focus on that one. That's the one I'm focused on. So go to youtubecom slash. I think it's crash underscore cannon because I think it's a crash bandicoot Shannon cannon channel that stole that name. Already branding is important.
Speaker 3:Ironic because you had a gaming channel, because I think it's a crashed Bandicoot.
Speaker 1:Canon channel that stole that name already. Branding is important. Ironic because you had a gaming channel.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it is. Oh, you're the gaming guy I used to be, yeah. I can talk about the gaming About 2,000 hours worth of content and me talking about other stuff Is Antony who's SoulClo?
Speaker 1:What is SoulClo?
Speaker 2:For his jerry curls.
Speaker 4:Rob, how do you not know what Soul Glow is?
Speaker 1:I said, Todd, that I have two weeks left of this free membership.
Speaker 4:I better get a bang for my buck. Well, I don't think we. Well, Todd is Todd, a Locals member.
Speaker 1:I imagine so. Todd, text me and let me know if you're a Locals member. I imagine so.
Speaker 4:Todd, text me and let me know if you're a Locals member.
Speaker 1:If you're not, you've got to hear the Maudsley talk. What do you mean? A group meeting, todd, stop clicking things in. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Like Todd, do you want to talk to us after this, because we can hop on Telegram, yeah. Yeah, what do I need soul glow for? Look at these danceful juke curls right here all right and bajarian's musings.
Speaker 4:If you guys are not following him on twitter, you guys are missing out. He's uh hilarious taffy too. You guys gotta follow taaffy on Twitter, man we love. Taffy he is a freaking riot dude.
Speaker 1:I went down the rabbit hole last week on an AI song maker that he uses. I spent, like all day at work supposedly making AI songs for my kids.
Speaker 5:Taffy's like me if he could do graphic design. I just can't do it. If you see a meme from any of us, there's probably Taffy's like me if he could do graphic design.
Speaker 3:I just can't do it.
Speaker 7:He's great. If you see a meme from any of us, there's probably almost a 50% chance that Taffy DM'd it to us and told us that we needed to post it yes.
Speaker 4:All right, we're going to wrap this one up. I got work in the morning. Guys, it was nice hanging with you. You guys were fun, even though you stink of trivia. We don't hold it against you too much. No, everybody stinks of trivia.
Speaker 6:Listen, I took a bunch of like freaking medicine so I could come on tonight.
Speaker 4:I'm pretty darn sick right now we will get a few clips out of this to put up that people will see more broadly. So I hope you guys get a little love, hold on Todd, wait, hold on, todd, wait, hold on.
Speaker 1:what is which hit, todd, this is for you. No one else click. Click this link. No one else. No one else click that link we have each other's number.
Speaker 4:What are you talking about? Have each other's number.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about?
Speaker 4:We've hung out in real life, Todd. Why are we doing it this way? Todd, I know we saved each other's number. What are you talking about? Maybe not Does?
Speaker 6:Majorian get to keep using the Voiding Babylon outro for his trivia. That's the real question.
Speaker 1:The outro. I ain't gonna ask, I don't know what to ask. You know what's funny? We didn't even use the trivia intro. Oh no, we didn't. Yeah, we should have done this. Yeah, we missed an opportunity there, anthony.
Speaker 5:We don't know the faith, apparently Fucked.
Speaker 4:Rob text me Todd's number. I guess I don't have it.
Speaker 1:So he might think that I have his number because he has mine.
Speaker 4:I just texted Eddie and asked Eddie for it, all right.
Speaker 1:Oh, I do have his number because he has mine.
Speaker 4:I just texted Eddie and asked.
Speaker 1:Eddie for it All right. Oh, I do have Todd's number. Hold on.
Speaker 4:I'll group chat. All right, we're going to wrap this up. Guys. Rob, me, you and Todd will text on the group chat. Everybody, thank you for coming. We will see you guys on Tuesday. We don't know what we're doing Tuesday, but this was fun and we will see you guys later.
Speaker 2:Tickets out. Rob Heart goes out to you.
